Re: UPDATE Surprising DNA results from Ancestry

Zora Moore

Thank you!  I am open to this new adventure. 

Re: UPDATE Surprising DNA results from Ancestry

Zora Moore

Thanks for sharing.   So far I have found I have 4 half Siblings on my BF side.   They are processing it all and have not been wanting to connect at this point, which is understandable.   I think time will fix all.   

Re: UPDATE Surprising DNA results from Ancestry

Zora Moore

My initial Ancestry match matched me to a 1st Cousin... I reached out to them and come up with a hypothesis of who could be my BF.   Then a second 1st Cousin contacted me who got their results, So in comparing the two results we were able to conclude who my BF was.  Went a lot faster than I ever expected.  But the 50 year old mystery has been solved.  DNA is #Facts!

Origin of Ashkenazi DNA percentage question - Thank you #dna

richard may

Thank you to everyone who replied to my question below!
There seemed to be no consensus among the answers.

Richard May ferdlilac@...
North Carolina, U.S.A.

I have 1 known Ashkenazi great grandparent of 8. One eight is 12.5%.
According to 23andMe, FTDNA, AncestryDNA and MyHeritage DNA
my DNA is about 20% Ashkenazi. All agree on this. This is 1.6 times
more Ashkenazi DNA than I can account for genealogically.

Is it more likely that I have an undiscovered ancestor with Ashkenazi
DNA, who perhaps assimilated, or that I simply inherited more than
half of my grandparent's Ashkenazi DNA?

Re: Do you keep passports?


I do keep them, feeling that they are an important part of the history.

If you don't want to -- or have room to -- keep them, I would definitely at least scan them (cover plus all pages that have entries) in high resolution, and keep several copies of the file.

Fredel Fruhman

1784 Poll Tax lists for Lithuania districts

Russ Maurer

LitvakSIG is pleased to make publicly available our entire collection of 1784 poll tax lists, part of our Grand Duchy of Lithuania (GDL) project. The lists are organized into 14 compilations by district. The compilations include 158 component lists and a total of 46,906 lines.

Detailed information about the GDL project, including guidance and examples of locating one's ancestors in these patronymic records (i.e., no surnames, for the most part) can be found on our GDL page. The compilations may be downloaded - no password needed - from our GDL Transcriptions page.

We thank Dorothy Leivers for her dedication to this project. We also thank Sonia Hoffman and the late David Hoffman, who initiated the GDL project and donated the full set of scans and their partially completed transcription work to LitvakSIG.

LitvakSIG is an independent organization that raises its own funds and determines its own activities. As always, we are grateful to our donors and translators, without whom we could not make these records available. These records have been available exclusively to our donors for about the past 18 months. To learn how to support LitvakSIG's work and gain priority access to new translations, visit our website, .

Russ Maurer (vhrproject@...)
Records Acquisition & Translation coordinator, LitvakSIG

Re: thoughts - opinions

Sarah L Meyer

I include all those born alive, even if they only lived a few hours.  I do not include stillborns.  I may make a note on the mother's record that she had a stillborn child, but especially without names, I do not create a record for that child.

Information about the Bagnowka Jewish Cemetery in Bialystok #poland

Mark Halpern

Below is a message >from Heidi Szpek. She has been documenting the
Matzevot and their inscriptions and artwork for over 10 years now. Her
book "Bagnowka: A Modern Jewish Cemetery on the Russian Pale" is
available at most online book sellers. Below is a personal message >from
Dr. Szpek.

Mark Halpern
Dear Bialystokers,

I invite you to visit my website ( devoted to the
restoration of and documentation of vital records >from Bagnowka Jewish
Cemetery in Bialystok, Poland. This website was established in 2014 as a
venue to explore the value of the Jewish epitaphs >from this cemetery but
in more recent years has migrated to a source for disseminating the most
up-to-date records of extant inscriptions on this cemetery as well as
information about its restoration. I have served as translator and
historian for this restoration project since 2010, first with the local
Centrum organization, coordinated by local representative Lucy Lisowska,
and since 2016, with the US-based organization, Bialystok Cemetery
Restoration Project (, founded by
Bialystoker Amy Halpern Degen, husband Josh Degen and friends Howie and
Paula Flagler.

At present, nearly 3400 inscriptions have been documented and recorded
on this website; other partial databases are found on other online
databases - as noted on my website. If restoration goes forward as
planned, documentation and major aspects of restoration should be
completed in the next 3-4 years, with a (projected) additional 1500
inscriptions documented. These new records will be added to the existing
database at . My hope is that all records will
eventually be sustained by the JOWBR database.

Until that time, I encourage you to visit ,
explore the database and images, as well as information about the
history of this cemetery, its restoration and related publications.

Best regards,
Heidi M. Szpek, Ph.D.
Emerita Professor, Central Washington University, WA/USA
Translator, Historian, Bialystok Cemetery Restoration Project


Sarah L Meyer

I tried replying to your email and the message bounced.  I do not live in the tri-state area (wherever that is-Illinois, Indiana and Michigan or NY, NJ and PA or CT, I am in Central Texas.  Thanks for mentioning the shipping costs.  I doubt that I will buy the book unless it is the English translation.  But if there is a Russian reader who would be willing to check names for me, I would be willing to share the cost of the book - or even buy it as a gift for her.

Re: thoughts - opinions


My maternal grandmother's first child was stillborn.  I list that baby on our tree because it explains some things about the family and also because knowing she was stillborn can help to dispel a family myth that she "froze to death" while my grandmother was being tended to.  I would not list a miscarriage for someone who is still living, but I might for someone who is deceased if I knew for sure that would not cause pain to anyone.  I have not done it, but the idea of unlinking a relative also has merit. 

opinion/thoughts followup

Trudy Barch

Thank you everyone for your thoughts.   Most of the people said Yes to include the found stillborn.  For stillborns that occurred 100 years ago….I can not foresee a problem…parents and other siblings are probably deceased.   But what about more current (50 years) infant deaths?   Might we be bringing up some hurtful/painful memories that other siblings might not even know?

Yes genealogy is factual but we should also be sensitive to people.   I am thinking, after hearing from everyone, including the information in my note sections where I will have the information but not shared with everyone. 

Other viewpoints, please.    Thank you,   Trudy Barch

Re: Lodz Jewish voter list 1924

Deborah Blinder

Thank you. I was able to get to thre images by following your suggestions. 
Deborah Blankenberg (JewishGen ID #613395)
Lodi, CA
Researching BLOCH/BLOCK (Germany to New York, Colombia and Missouri), BLINDER (Kishinev to New York via Poland? and Paris), KUSHER/KUSZER (Lodz vicinity to New York via Paris), GOLDSCHMIDT (Germany)

Re: DNA ethnicity


Thank you Sarah. I'm a member of some of these sites. You are right they can be very helpful.  I find myself doubling up as I'm exploring both the RC and Jewish routes for information.   

Re: DNA ethnicity


Mother- Maria Teresa /Theresa Szczepaska b.22 Mar 1925 in Lwow, Poland. Forced labour to Cologne May 1942. Married 12 Oct 1946. Arrived in England- Winter 1946.

Michal Szczepanski  B. unknown.  Lived in -Lwow- Occupation- In banking. Arrested 1940  by Russians ? Siberia?
                       - Zofia  Mrozowaska (?) B. unknown.  Lived in Lwow.  Marriage abt. 1923  Arrested 1940 by Russians? Siberia?

Do you keep passports?


Do you keep old passports that you find of family members? I've come across one that doesn't have a lot of stamps- a couple to Tel Aviv and one to Frankfurt. It was used later on in the life. I'm sure he had many more passports prior to this one.

Just curious what others do. 

Linda Epstein
Grodno and Sokolka: TIKOTZINSKI---> EPSTEIN
Minsk: SPUND

1911 London census help needed

Francoise Kraft

Hi to all,

I would be very grateful If somebody could help me in getting details about a couple mentioned in the 1911 London census area of Whitechapel.Salomon Rompel and his wife Dora might be cousins.All information contained in this document will be welcome..

Thanks for help
Francoise Kraft
Searching KRAFT and INDES and ROMPEL from Odessa,Bender,Beltsy and Hrubieschow



Inna, I live in central New Jersey and would be very much interested in being part of a group order for a copy.
Norm Katz

Exhibit: "Refuge in the Heights" (starts Feb. 3, Leo Baeck Institute, NYC) #germany

Renee Steinig

This sounds like an exhibit that many in/near NYC will want to see...

_Refuge in the Heights: The German Jews of Washington Heights_
February 3 to July 31, 2020
Leo Baeck Institute
15 West 16th Street, New York NY

Opening event: March 11, 6:00 to 8:00 p.m.

Renee Stern Steinig, Dix Hills NY (formerly on 179th Street and Cabrini Blvd.!)

Re: thoughts - opinions

Dahn Cukier

There are good reasons on both sides. If the listing
is difficult, do not list on trees.

I have a husband/father who divorced and the former wife (my relative) and
children do have contact with the father. The mother remarried and
the children were adopted by the husband.

I was showing the biological family, but since I found out how
difficult it was to this branch, I made the father "unlinked" and put a
complete explanation in his notes, but no connection to the family.
In this way he never shows up in anything published.

The reason to keep him, is that - he is the biological father and
if there is ever a reason to find their ancestors, the information
and even copies of documents are in my records.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 5:03:23 AM GMT+2, <eagle0017@...> wrote:

I had an aunt who fell down a short flight of stairs during the 8 + month.  They rushed her to the hospital for a c section.  The baby was dead and my aunt was injured. She couldn't  have any children after that.  Needless to say she was sad the rest of her of her life at the lost of the child.  I would never mention the infant on my tree and it upsets me when a family member has it on their tree as a stillborn.  To me it was a tragedy.
Marge Hurl


Re: New System


Hello, you posted about the new system, you were responding to a previous post but I have no idea what the thread is or the original post. I went back a few days and couldn’t find it in recent  posts, I would like to know the subject and primary sender. I find this new system lacking miserably in this regard.
Thanks so much, Louise Hajdenberg

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