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Re: Searching descendants of Simcha SCHECHTER, (Brooklyn NY early 1900’s)

Barbara Zimmer
 

I like Sam Schechter born about 1865 who says he arrived in the US 3 Feb 1881.

In the 1910 census Sam and his wife Sarah have 6 children. Sarah says she has given birth to 8 children, 6 living.
And in 1910 they live on Havemeyer Street in Brooklyn which is quite close to the Brooklyn Bridge.

Here is the family in 1910.

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Samuel Schechter
Age in 1910: 45
Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Austria
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 13, Kings, New York
Street: Havemeyer Street
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Sarah Schechter
Father's Birthplace: Austria
Mother's Birthplace: Austria
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Operator
Industry: Coats Shop
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 22
Out of Work: N
Number of weeks out of work: 0
Samuel Schechter 45
Sarah Schechter 42
Abraham Schechter 21
Minie Schechter 19
Louis Schechter 16
Solomon Schechter 13
Sadie Schechter 8
Victor Schechter 4

If I am correct, then Sam married Sarah GERHART in 1888.

Sam Shachter
New York, New York City Marriage Records, 1829-1947
Name: Sam Shachter
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Feb 1888
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Age: 22
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated): 1866
Birthplace: Galicia, Austria
Father's Name: Adolf Shachter
Mother's Name: Goldberger
Spouse's Name: Sarah Gerhart
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1869
Spouse's Birthplace: Hungaria
Spouse's Father's Name: M. A. Gerhart
Spouse's Mother's Name: Jettie Gartner

Benzion arrived in 1892. His surname was spelled differently.

New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Benzian Schlochter
Arrival Date: 3 Feb 1892
Birth Date: abt 1873
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Austrian
Place of Origin: Austria
Port of Departure: Rotterdam
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Werkendam

Barbara Zimmer
Norfolk VA


Re: Once upon a time there was a moderator for this group.....

LOUISE HAJDENBERG
 

Glenda,
That  doesn’t seem the case in my aol account. It might help some.
i have contacted support on three occasions with3 different numbers, one 2 days after launch, and no one ever got back to me so when a moderator says it is the proper place to email for ongoing site problems it is not sufficient. This is the only place.
Louise Hajdenberg
New York


Re: Bad Aarolsen Data Base

Freda
 

May be helpful to know...
When searching on Bad Arolsen, there are many results (with record images) that do not show up on ushmm searches. ushmm has a vast record collection but only a percentage, like Bad Arolsen, have been digitized and indexed to be made available online.
I also find info on Yad Vashem database that isn’t on ushmm and vice versa.
Yad Vashem often doesn’t have images that ushmm has. Important to cross check all three databases and any others.
ushmm has also has a very useful collections search.

Freda

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Re: Tracking a passenger across the Atlantic through England

Sally Bruckheimer
 

Many went directly to New York from Hamburg, avoiding the change of ship. Emigrants in my family from southern Germany  left from Le Havre to New York.

There were, of course, many other possibilities.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: Once upon a time there was a moderator for this group.....

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

WISH IT WERE THAT EASY.  When i attempt to sign in I get this message:  That email address does not have a groups.jewishgen.org account.  
Odd, because I’ve been using that email for over 20 years! And that’s how I sign in to the JewishGen databases.    

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

On Jan 18, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Glenda Rubin <glendathree@...> wrote:

Looking at some of my recent replies that posted to the group, I saw a tagline with my name and location (that I had input)  and another  tagline with that info plus the names and places I'm researching.  Checking the discussion group page at https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main on the subscription link I found there's a section called *signature*, where you enter information that will automatically appear as a tagline at the bottom of all your messages.  I had forgotten about that until this discussion. If someone has posted this already, sorry for the duplication.

Glenda

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:37 AM Merv & Naomi Barnett <barnett@...> wrote:
I find it curious that some posters to this group don't consider it necessary to state where they reside in the world and numerous posters don't add a signature.  Surely when anyone sends a message to a friend or work colleague or a business, emails are always signed.  

Once upon a time there was a moderator who kept us all in line and brought these omissions to our attention.  I'm not suggesting we need to go back to an overseer but common courtesy would be welcome and appreciated.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia

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Pale of Settlement

Josephine Rosenblum
 

   What would a Yiddish-speaking Jew who lived there have called this area?  Please give a transliteration for those of us who do not read Hebrew letters.  I know it was also called Russian-Poland in English, so how would this same Yiddish speaker have pronounced "Russian-Poland"?
   Because it is likely that others will find this information helpful, please post it for all to see.
   Thank you in advance.
Josephine Rosenblum
Cincinnati, OH
Searching: LESTZ in Seduva; ROSENBLUM or ROZENBLUM in Aleksotas; LEVINSON and ZEEMAN in Ponemon.  All in Lithuania.


Re: Buying false papers

Jane Foss
 

Rose Lowenkron, my cousin Estelle's mother, bought her sister's papers and ship's ticket and managed to get into the US tho she was only about 14..Jane Lowenkron Foss


Re: Maiming to Avoid the Russian Draft?

Toby Blake
 

My Grandfather from Tomaszow Lubelski, Poland told us that he drank Sauerkraut juice to
upset his stomach and avoid the draft. He suffered from stomach issues his entire life.

Toby Blake
Portland, Oregon


Re: Once upon a time there was a moderator for this group.....

Beverley Davis
 

Quoted message:

Re: Once upon a time there was a moderator for this group.....
From: Glenda Rubin
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:20:04 AEDT
It doesn't seem to be consistent, but I hit reply to Louise's message (not via the links below the message, but the ordinary reply button in g-mail). The subsequent screen was blank, but there was the image of 3 dots in the bottom left corner [...], which is a g-mail thing showing a message has been clipped. I clicked on that, and a quote of the previous message appeared. Hope this might help with the threads issue.

(Also hoping my name, location, and research interests will automatically appear when this is sent).

Glenda

===================

Hi Glenda: re your last line, no they didn’t!!!
Best wishes,
Beverley Davis, Melbourne, Australia


Auto-signing messages

JoAnne Goldberg
 

Thanks, Glenda, for the heads up!

This seems to be the most direct link --
https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/editsub -- once you're logged in --
to edit the signature
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JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- Siauliai, LIthuania


Re: Buying false papers

Clifford S. Goldfarb
 

My father, aged 18, arrived in Antwerp from Poland in 1920 with a boat ticket from his sister in Toronto, but no papers. He was told to go to Brussels. In Brussels he was told to go to the Ukrainian charge d’affaires. Having no money, he found a number of people also looking for papers, offered to provide them for a fee, and raised enough to buy papers for himself. He got a “laisser passez” good for one trip to Canada, showing him as a 20 year old from Berezhany, Ukraine — a short distance from Dalesczye (Kielce), where he was from. I still have it.

Cliff Goldfarb


Re: Buying false papers

Yohanan
 

My mother escaped Russian Czernowitch after the war by buying approved visa to Romania from a young couple 
who applied and received also a visa to USA which they preferred to keep.
She also had to get a false marriage cerificate and a false death certificare for the couple's young daughter. 


Re: Once upon a time there was a moderator for this group.....

Glenda Rubin
 

It doesn't seem to be consistent, but I hit reply to Louise's message (not via the links below the message, but the ordinary reply button in g-mail).  The subsequent screen was blank, but there was the image of 3 dots in the bottom left corner [...], which is a g-mail thing showing a message has been clipped.  I clicked on that, and a quote of the previous message appeared.  Hope this might help with the  threads issue.

(Also hoping my name, location, and research interests will automatically appear when this is sent).

Glenda

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 3:06 PM LOUISE HAJDENBERG via Groups.Jewishgen.Org <cabsha1=aol.com@...> wrote:
This is what I am responding to: 
Glenda wrote “I agree with Vivian on her points above, except that the person replying should cut and paste the original message in the reply. I tested this with this reply, and to make it easier to do, you need to cut the content, hit reply to the list, then paste. Where to paste?:  at the top or below your reply (actual or reverse chronological).  This could also lead to incomplete threads when some reply doing this and some don't. 
Back in the day, I appreciated seeing the full thread”

I agree Glenda  but in actuality it is the not ready for prime time system that should still be in beta that doesn’t do that for us. It is pure frustration.
Louise Hajdenberg


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Glenda Rubin
San Francisco Bay Area
Researching: STRYZEWSKI, STRAUSS, JANOFSKY, JANOFF, OBODOV, WERNICK, GREENBERG, KROCHAK. Shtetls: Lipovets, Ilintsy, Pliskov, Starokonstantinov, Krasilov


Re: Once upon a time there was a moderator for this group.....

Glenda Rubin
 

Looking at some of my recent replies that posted to the group, I saw a tagline with my name and location (that I had input)  and another  tagline with that info plus the names and places I'm researching.  Checking the discussion group page at https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main on the subscription link I found there's a section called *signature*, where you enter information that will automatically appear as a tagline at the bottom of all your messages.  I had forgotten about that until this discussion. If someone has posted this already, sorry for the duplication.

Glenda

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:37 AM Merv & Naomi Barnett <barnett@...> wrote:
I find it curious that some posters to this group don't consider it necessary to state where they reside in the world and numerous posters don't add a signature.  Surely when anyone sends a message to a friend or work colleague or a business, emails are always signed.  

Once upon a time there was a moderator who kept us all in line and brought these omissions to our attention.  I'm not suggesting we need to go back to an overseer but common courtesy would be welcome and appreciated.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia


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Glenda Rubin
San Francisco Bay Area
Researching: STRYZEWSKI, STRAUSS, JANOFSKY, JANOFF, OBODOV, WERNICK, GREENBERG, KROCHAK. Shtetls: Lipovets, Ilintsy, Pliskov, Starokonstantinov, Krasilov


Re: Once upon a time there was a moderator for this group.....RESPONSE FROM A MODERATOR

Lin Herz
 

Are there still moderators? It does not appear so. Does anyone know?

To answer the initial question,,,yes there are still moderators on duty who must approve, edit, reject or delete EVERY single post. However, our job is NOT to be an English teacher. We will not correct spelling, we will not correct grammar, we will not correct punctuation, we will not capitalize a name for you, and we will not check to see if a link is correct  (how would we know the correct link?). That is the responsibility of the person who is posting. We will simply make certain of the following rules apply:

  • Topics: Posts should relate to Jewish genealogy. We do not discuss religious issues (such as "Who is a Jew" and other discussions which are frequently raised within the context of researching one's roots).
  • Moderation: This group is moderated to ensure civility, and that posts are related to Jewish genealogy.
  • Frequency: You may post unique messages as often as you like, but please try to be thoughtful in your posts, and do not abuse this approach by posting many messages the same day, etc.
  • Commercial Posts: We welcome everyone, including other non-profit organizations, to share commercial offers as long as they are related to Jewish genealogy, and that those posting them do not abuse the privilege. Commercial posts should not repeat more than once every three months.
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Personally, I believe in a lot of communication for information in Jewish Genealogy, so in my case I will approve almost everything that applies to the above rules and maybe even beyond! However, if there is a technical issue, a gripe or complaint about the site, please do not send it to the JewishGen Discussion group but to support@.... Also, understand that a single word like "thanks" or "OK" is not really relevant to send to over 7,500 individuals in a discussion group. For individual replies, please send it back to the person who had initially posted. I believe everyone would appreciate that.

Also please know and understand that we are volunteers and in my case, it is my way of "giving back" to JewishGen for all that they do and have done for Jewish Genealogy. We not only have to review and approve posts but new members as well so there is quite a bit to do.


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Re: Please put surnames in the subject line

sharon yampell
 

The problem with your post is you didn’t sign it or add your location!

 

Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, NJ USA

 

From: jbonline1111@...
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 11:15 AM
To: main@...
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Please put surnames in the subject line

 

I've noticed that since this new format has become available, that the majority of posts do not list surnames in the subject line and sometimes not even in the body of posts.  When fellow contributors see surnames right away, they can quickly determine whether they can be helpful to you.  Further, many will take the time to research for you if they have the names. 

Use tags such as #Belarus as supplements.  For example, today I looked at a post with that tag because my family came from that area. However, if the surnames had been posted, I would have known that I was unable to help.   

Thanks to all who work to make this discussion group helpful to everyone.

 


Re: Please put surnames in the subject line

Peter Lebensold
 

It will also help those in the future - who might be searching for the name in this blog's archives - to find you.

Peter LEBENSOLD
Toronto


Re: Maiming to Avoid the Russian Draft?

Ettie Zilber
 

My grandfather, from Grodno (Poland then Belarus) told the story of smuggling eye drops to his older brother which would create symptoms in his eyes, which would exempt him from the military. I have no idea what was in those eye drops but I read elsewhere about someone else doing the same, so it was obviously an 'easy' medical solution.
Anyone heard of this?


Re: Searching descendants of Simcha SCHECHTER, (Brooklyn NY early 1900’s)

Eva Lawrence
 

Have you thought of finding s street directory for pre-war Brooklyn and
and with a street map finding the likely street where Simcha and his
family might have lived? It can't have been all that far from your
aunt's house. . Then you could try perhaps the nearest census or a
directory for Schechters (seven of them) in just those few streets.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK
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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: Tracking a passenger across the Atlantic through England

henry
 

Steve,

The usual route for emigrants from Germany and northern Europe was by ship from Hamburg to Hull or Grimsby on the east coast of England, thence by train to Liverpool where they would board another ship to the US or Canada. This was in the days before passports were required and, as they were only 'passing through', no UK record was made of their arrival or departure.

Emigrants from southern Europe to the US and Canada usually travelled through Cherbourg (France) and Southampton (England), although other departure ports on the mainland of Europe were sometimes used.

Henry Best,
London, UK.

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