1. main@groups.jewishgen.org
  2. Messages
   Date   
ViewMate translation requests - Hungarian

Carole Bass
 

I've posted two files from Hungarian vital records, for which I request translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
Re: Liski, Kolomea

Shelley Mitchell
 

Kolomyya is the current name of this now Ukrainian town. I happen to have a lot of relatives from there. 
Re: Tracking a passenger across the Atlantic through England ISRAEL LEVENTHAL -- clarification needed

Barbara Zimmer
 

Which is correct? Did Israel Leventhal arrive after World War Two (about 1945) or after World War One (about 1919-1920)?
Did he really die in Palestine in 1930, or is that date incorrect?

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


I have been searching records for years for my great grandfather. He came to the USA to visit his family before emigrating to Palestine to die. He supposedly arrived in New York at the end of WWII, stayed to visit them and then left for Palestine. If anyone can find him on any manifests I I would be greatly appreciative.

His name was Israel Leventhal and he was born in 1849 in Russia, possibly the Moldova region. According to a genealogist I hired in Israel, he died in Palestine in 1930.
Re: Pale of Settlement

mvayser@...
 

Vladimir,
Your ggfather would have had to undertake a step to register with another society to no longer be considered a Slonim meschanin.  This was not mandatory.  My ggfather was also born in Slonim, while being registered with Ozernitsa society (20 km west of Slonim).  He lived most of his life in Odessa and his marriage/children births in Odessa list him as being an Ozernitsa meschanin.

Regards,
Mike


Vladimir Oksman
Jan 19   

Most of the "Russian" Jews are from Pale. 
My great-grandfather Isaac Zeliviansky originally is from Slonim, Belarus. Slonim was inside Pale. He got permit to live outside Pale, in Stavropol, Russia. He got it because his profession - tailor, his specialization was hats. He just have found his profession is in demand there, in Stavropol. He moved from Pale at 1876. Interestingly he still listed in all records as "Slonim meshanin".
Re: Alex Krakovsky Ukraine postings - Alphabetical Listing of Surnames #ukraine

mvayser@...
 

Beware that some of these name lists are far from being complete.
There are more comprehensive lists that exist for towns of Radomysl uezd: census of 1815-1816, 1834, 1834 supplemental, 1850, 1850 supplemental (last name, social class, page number, index number), as well as 1808 census of drinking establishment ownership (complete census information). 1818 Supplemental census is in the works.

Currently, a complete list of 1897 census Radomysl uezd is being worked on. It will include town/village, last name, and page number of all towns and villages.  According to Wikipedia, 1897 census numbers Jewish population at 41272.

Radomysl uezd includes the following towns:
Brusilov
Gornostaypol
Ivankov
Korostyshev
Malin
Radomysl
Rozhev
Khabnoe
Chernobyl

1897 Radomysl uezd census also includes rural areas, which are currently not indexed anywhere in public domain.  This information is in progress of being uploaded by Alex and is being transcribed at the same time.

Gary, you wrote that these lists cannot be made available in JG database and can be uploaded to Kehlialink.  Is there one available for Radomysl uezd?

Regards,
Mike
Re: Liski, Kolomea

Ben Kempner
 

Hello Hannah,

Per the JewishGen Town Finder, Liski might have been known as Lishke in Yiddish or Mala Hlusha in modern-day Ukraine.  If this is true, the village is quite a way from Kolomea.

However, as your surname is Sperber and you mention Kolomea, I'm wondering if you recognize the name Schmerl Sperber.   My grandmother, Fanny Sperber (1887 - 1942) and her 4 siblings were born to Schmerl Sperber (and Manci Friedman) in the small village of Gwozdziec (today Hvizdets, Ukraine). Gwozdziec was part of the Kolomea administrative district. I know Sperber is not an uncommon name, but you're in the right vicinity, and I always hold on to hope.

Perhaps (likely) Schmerl had siblings, and you descend from one of them?  Do you know the names of your Sperber ancestors that would have lived in that area and at the same time as Schmerl (1845 - 1917)?

Thanks.
Ben Kempner (benjamin.kempner@...)
To Reply does NOT show up with my Thunderbird mail client, even though I logged into Jewishgen first

Jeffrey Knisbacher
 

This is beyond frustrating. I'm not about to switch my mail tool.  Can't we fix this?   Jeff Knisbacher

  1.  main@...
    2.  
 
Tools
Any time 
 
Collapse Topics
 
Exclude Signatures
 
Clear
Date    

 Bad Aarolsen Data Base By Hannah Sperber · #320612 · Jan 17

Liski, Kolomea By Hannah Sperber · #320577 · Jan 16

Re: Pale of Settlement

Odeda Zlotnick
 

would this same Yiddish speaker have pronounced "Russian-Poland"?
The Yiddish speaker (e.g. my GF from Tomaszow Mazowietsky) pronounced it "Russisch Polen"
Searching for Sperber Family from Liski, stanislavuv, Radom

Hannah Sperber
 

Philip, Chaim, Henry, irka, Nathan, Halina 
Notarial records Grodno Gubernia

M Fine
 

Has any one had experience with notarial records? What are they and what kind of information might they contain?
The Grodno archive has an index online and there are a number that seem to relate to my Calewicz family.
Mitchell Fine
FINE, SOLOWITZ, CALEWICZ
Bialystok, Choroszcz
Re: REPLY button

Dahn Cukier
 

Note: The screen on the right in the screenshot is not relevant.

I have "reply" but I am not logged into Jewishgen.
I use Firefox on Windows 10 using
yahoo mail.

In the screenshot, the "reply" is in the second from bottom
line.

If you use a POP client, you may not have the links.

YMMV

Dani
VOTE: Version without the history - NO.



When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas


On Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 4:17:20 PM GMT+2, <cohen.izzy@...> wrote:


The REPLY button is only displayed if you are currently logged in to JewishGen.
If you are merely viewing displayed messages while not logged in, this button is not displayed.
After logging in, you must re-open the message or group of messages you received from JewishGen.
If you simply re-display webpage that did not have the button, it still will not be there.
That webpage was not changed when you logged in.
If you re-open the message(s) from JewishGen after logging in, the REPLY button should be displayed under every message.
Re: Tracking a passenger across the Atlantic through England ISRAEL LEVENTHAL

Harriet Weidenbaum
 

I have been searching records for years for my great grandfather. He came to the USA to visit his family before emigrating to Palestine to die. He supposedly arrived in New York at the end of WWII, stayed to visit them and then left for Palestine. If anyone can find him on any manifests I I would be greatly appreciative.

His name was Israel Leventhal and he was born in 1849 in Russia, possibly the Moldova region. According to a genealogist I hired in Israel, he died in Palestine in 1930.

Most appreciatively,

Harriet Arenberg aka Arnberg Weidenbaum
Re: Rosenszweig in Antwerp

Beth Long
 

Is Naftali Schwarcz the same as Nátán Schwarcz, married to Elka Fruchter?
Re: Given Names Database

Deb Kroopkin
 

A temporary help is free on Ancestry.com. It's pulled from the same database. You can look in the catalog and select it, and you can create a box for it on your home page. https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1528/
-Debbie Kroopkin
Re: Buying false papers

Shelley Mitchell
 

It's been mentioned a few times that "Ellis Island wasn't open."  Please remember that Ellis Island opened up in 1892 but before that, Castle Island was open from 1855-1890.  Immigrants were received there too and there are records for Castle Island as well.

Shelley Mitchell
NYC
looking for TERNER, MOLDAUER, KINIGSBERG/KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, all Kolomyya, now Ukraine, TOPF, Koloyya and Radautz.


--
Shelley Mitchell 
NYC
searching KONIGSBERG/KINIGSBERG, TERNER, MOLDAUER, SCHONFELD - Kolomyya PLATZ - DELATYN. All Galicia. 
Re: Given Names Database

Nancy Siegel
 

This is in response to the complaints about not being able to access the Given Names Database.

JewishGen’s Database Administrator has found that the problem with the Given Names Database appears to be with the owner of the sub domain where the data resides, and not with JewishGen's servers. He is looking into this and will try to resolve the problem.

Nancy Siegel 
Director of Communications
JewishGen.org

Re: REPLY button

Marsha
 

When you click on reply there is a "Reply to group & sender" button bottom left and a "private" button bottom right. If you click on "private" then "Reply to group and sender" changes to "Reply to sender" which should enable you to send a private message.
Re: Buying false papers

Sarah L Meyer
 

Hi Sally, Yes I was talking about papers to EXIT Russia, not to Enter the US.

Sarah

 

From: sallybruc via [] <sallybruc=yahoo.com@[]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 8:41 AM
To: Sarah L Meyer <sarahlmeyer@...>; main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Buying false papers

 

"I need to clarify something about the dates.  My paternal ggf, the one who "bought" the false papers in Russia (I think the Odessa area) arrived in 1884, which was well before the opening of Ellis Island.  He came under the surname Meyer. "

In 1884 nothing was needed to enter the US. What he probably bought was a ticket and perhaps the deceased Meyer's papers, as Russians were required to carry papers in Russia.

A cousin of mine came about the same time, and the family still has the ticket and internal passport. A gril's fiance was in the US, and he sent her a ticket to follow; but the girl died before leaving. My cousin's family bought the ticket (why waste the money), and the cousin left in the girl's place, with her papers. She left Russia and could have thrown the papers out, but all Russians didn't know that. Of course, once in the US, she used her own name.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com
Re: Buying false papers

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"I need to clarify something about the dates.  My paternal ggf, the one who "bought" the false papers in Russia (I think the Odessa area) arrived in 1884, which was well before the opening of Ellis Island.  He came under the surname Meyer. "

In 1884 nothing was needed to enter the US. What he probably bought was a ticket and perhaps the deceased Meyer's papers, as Russians were required to carry papers in Russia.

A cousin of mine came about the same time, and the family still has the ticket and internal passport. A gril's fiance was in the US, and he sent her a ticket to follow; but the girl died before leaving. My cousin's family bought the ticket (why waste the money), and the cousin left in the girl's place, with her papers. She left Russia and could have thrown the papers out, but all Russians didn't know that. Of course, once in the US, she used her own name.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ
Re: REPLY button

Jeffrey Knisbacher
 

Thanks. Will check it out later today. Seems to me this is clunky at best. Why the extra step?  Jeff



On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 cohen.izzy <cohen.izzy@...> wrote:

The REPLY button is only displayed if you are currently logged in to JewishGen.
If you are merely viewing displayed messages while not logged in, this button is not displayed.
After logging in, you must re-open the message or group of messages you received from JewishGen.
If you simply re-display webpage that did not have the button, it still will not be there.
That webpage was not changed when you logged in.
If you re-open the message(s) from JewishGen after logging in, the REPLY button should be displayed under every message.
31221 - 31240 of 670770