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Re: German ancestry of my Galician or Ukrainian ancestors?

Rachel Unkefer
 

I can't speak to strong or weak matches at Ancestry, but at FTDNA, 100 cM match can be a person who matches multiple ancestors hundreds of years ago, but none in a recent timeframe. The length of the longest segments are as important as the total matching cM. Unfortunately, Ancestry doesn't give us a chromosome browser, so it's difficult to assess these matches.

Speaking as someone who has done extensive research on German Jewish families, both DNA and documents, I can cite the Bacharach family who was likely in Frankfurt or Worms in the 13th century and by the 17th-18th century had several branches in Lithuania, Belarus, Czechia, etc. While the family has an origin in Germany, and many branches were still there into the 20th century, there were also family members who spent the past 400 years in Eastern Europe and whose descendants don't necessarily consider themselves German-Jewish, even though they still carry a German surname.

One pair of such relatives share 131 cM, even though their common Bacharach ancestor has to have lived prior to 1600. Their largest shared segment is only about 10 cM. The total 131 cM most likely is a compounding of multiple relatives who lived in the Middle Ages, most likely in Germany. There were several population bottlenecks that occurred before large migrations east, so the vast majority of Jews in Eastern Europe in the 18th-20th centuries were descended from a very small number of Jews who survived those bottleneck events in Germany and eventually moved eastward. All those shared DNA segments from a small number of ancestors compound to look like the common ancestors are much more recent.

If you do share long cM runs with any of the unexpected Germans, consider a possible NPE in more recent generations. Maybe you do have a German ancestor who was not the spouse of your female ancestor from Ukraine or wherever and they met each other in New York or somewhere outside of Europe. Or there could have been a traveling rabbi or merchant from Germany visiting your ancestor's village or something along those lines. I would only look at this explanation if you have long matching segments, which you can't really tell at Ancestry.


Re: Include Family Name in Subject

jbonline1111@...
 

This has been our format for years, whether it is officially in the guidelines or not.  It helps the poster as well as those who get digests or individual posts determine whether to participate in a particular issue.
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Include Family Name in Subject

Marjorie Geiser
 

Excellent point, JB. Perhaps it should be. Along with including your name, where you're from, and names of who you're researching.

However, this is more for those posting, asking for help or looking for others searching the same name.

Margie Geiser
Arizona, USA

LEVINE/LEWIN, SILBERNAGEL/ZYLBERNAGEL/SILVER, EPSTEJN, MOCZYDLOWER/MOCHEDLOVER, ERLICH, GRUNPELTZ, JOSKOWICZ, ZYLBERSZTEJN, ABRAHAMOWICZ, SZTABINSKA, WILK


Re: Tarnobrzeg #galicia

Joan Edelstein
 

I’m relatively new to the email list and finally figured out how to reply to the group. My maternal grandmother was from Tarnobrzeg and immigrated here when she was 5 in 1900. When I went to the Lauder Foundation in Warsaw, I was able to get a lot of information on her family. I also visited there with my daughter around 15 years ago.
 
In any case, of the family who remained in Tarnobrzeg, there were no known survivors of the Holocaust. I would very much like to do some more research to see if I can find more about them and their families. Any suggestions you have of groups to join, Facebook pages, etc. would be greatly appreciated.

I am also interested in others whose families were from Tarnobrzeg to see if there are any connections.

Thanks so much! Joan


Re name Marks - US immigration records in early 19th century

Jeff Miller
 

I’ve read recently about people who were originally Markowitz or other variations changed their name to Marks.

Consider that records may exist under such an original name.

Best regards,

Jeff Miller
Maryland


Re: #JewishGenNews

S&D Hirschhorn <sdh2381@...>
 

 I would like to post the information that my husband Donald Hirschhorn has passed away.  Many JewishGen members may remember him as a long time worker for JewishGen.  He and I did the JewishGen Mall for several years which was a means to provide some income for JewishGen.
 
Thank you,
 
Sandra Hirschhorn
Monroe Township, NJ
Researching: LITWIN,Lodz,Poland;  BRUMER, Bialystok, Poland; KARPAY, Berezino, Minsk Gubernia,
Belarus; RAFALCHIK, Berezino, Belarus
 

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Subject: [Special] [JewishGen.org] #JewishGenNews
 

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Re: ViewMate translation request -Hebrew

Karen Zale
 

Thank you to all the people who helped me with the translation.  Jewishgen has an amazing group of people always willing to help one another.

Karen Zale
Plano, TX

GREENBERG - Pultusk, Wyszkow
KRAVCHENKO/KAPLAN/COPELAND - Niezhin,Chernigov
EHRENFREUND, KELLERMAN - Tarnow
REITMAN, ZALEFSKY - Shereshevo
FINKELSTEIN - Shchedrin
SORKIN - Kapustino, Rogachev



US immigration records in early 19th century #usa

jamehar@...
 

I've been trying to identify where my family came from in Russia for some time without much luck (I am British and the only information I can find is an 1861 census record for my ancestor - Raphael Marks - where his birthplace is stated as being 'Russia' [probably either 1816 or 1826]). No immigration records are available for Raphael which have been able to get me closer to identifying where in Russia he came from.

Following feedback from this group last month, I've looked into my DNA connections in more detail. Interestingly, some of those who match me, my grandfather and my grandfather's second cousin (via the Mark's line) match with a number of people who have a US lady called Phoebe Marks in their trees. It seems that her ancestor - Nathan Marks - was also from Russia (born 1838 and emigrated to New York via the UK in 1867). I'm thinking that if I can work out where Nathan came from, it might narrow down the search for where Raphael came from too (as they may well be brothers/cousins/uncle-nephew/etc).

From previous guidance on here, it sounds like the US immigration records for Nathan might provide me with a clue about where he (and maybe also Raphael) came from. I'm not finding detailed records on Ancestry through - just index-type records. Am I looking in the wrong place?


Re: 19th century medical condition

Elise Cundiff
 

I really doubt that saralasin would have been known or available back then, it is a medication that affects complex biochemistry that was also unknown.  And even though google brings up Achalasia when "saralasis" is searched, I don't see that word itself ever, so I think it is just an attempt to find a likely substitute.  


Gesher Galicia at the Center for Jewish History in Lower Manhattan #galicia

Steven Turner
 

There was a large turnout last night for Gesher Galicia Vice President Dr. Andrew Zalewski's fascinating presentation entitled, "Jewish Students, Medical Globetrotters, and Persevering Women". The presentation was recorded and we will keep you posted when the link is available to view. The NY contingent of the Gesher Galicia Board (President, Dr. Steven Turner, Treasurer, Charlie Katz and Director Renee Steinig) were thrilled to attend.

Follow us on facebook and in the message forums to hear about future events.

Dr. Steven S. Turner
President,
Gesher Galicia


Help fight USCIS Genealogy Program Fee Hike - Reopened Comments Until 10 Feb 2020

Renée K. Carl
 

As previously posted, those of us fighting to prevent the fee hikes to the USCIS Genealogy Program wanted to make sure that people new to the issue know that the comment period reopened. This additional time is a gift, and there are 4 steps you can take to help fight the fee hike:

1) If you have not submitted a comment, now is the time! All the information you need to know is at http://recordsnotrevenue.com/. Submit your comments at: https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=USCIS-2019-0010-10938

2) Once you have submitted a comment at the Federal Rulemaking Portal, please make sure you write your Senators and Representative! You can simply forward along a copy of your comments, and if you receive a response, please let me know, or send an email to "recordsnotrevenue @ gmail.com" (you need to delete the extra spaces to make the email work).

3) If you have submitted a comment Federal Rulemaking Portal, you are welcome to submit supplementary comments, however, there is no need to submit repeat or duplicative comments. If your comment has not yet posted to the online portal, but you received email confirmation and/or a receipt number from your previous comment, there is no need to submit the same comment again.** However, you are welcome to add additional thoughts to your previous comments; just be sure to include reference to your previous comment in your supplementary comment.
 
4) Share share share! Every single comment matters.
 
Thanks for your efforts, and for caring about these important records.
 
Renee Carl, and the Records Not Revenue team
Washington, DC
**While many comments post quickly in the online portal, some comments may take up to several months to post for a variety of reasons. As such - if you received confirmation via email or a comment receipt number that your comment was received, rest assured it will post sooner or later.


Re: post-war immigration to Argentina and Israel: where to start?

Mitchell Collier
 

If you are on Facebook, join this group to ask for assistance researching Argentinian Jewish history.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Gen.Judia.AR/

The discussions tend to be in Spanish, but the translate button under each post does a decent job and you can write to the group in English.

The Facebook group belongs to: Agrupación de Genealogía Judeo-Argentina

http://www.agja.org.ar

The group organizer can be reached by email:

consultas.agja@...

 


Re: post-war immigration to Argentina and Israel: where to start?

Barbara Ellman
 

The Bad Arolson records often show where the person went after the war.  The majority of these records are found at the US Holocaust Museum but they are not online,  I've seen records that told the course of the destination request and date the person left for for their destination.  The Arolson archives is putting the collection online, but it is a work in progress. https://arolsen-archives.org/en/search-explore/search-online-archive/

IGRA has been indexing the incoming ship manifests.  https://genealogy.org.il/AID/
Immigration records for Palestine are held by the Central Zionist Archives which will tell you what records are available and how they can be accessed.

Ships arriving in Buenos Aires can be searched at https://cemla.com/buscador/ (site is in Spanish) this database includes ships through 1960.  Also often ships to South America went through New York, so check the Ellis Island database with destination of Argentina or Sud Amerika.


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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA

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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Re: post-war immigration to Argentina and Israel: where to start?

Rose Feldman
 

The largest database collection on Israel is that of the Israel Genealogy Research Association. Registration is free an allows you to search to see if the name you are looking for appears, before becoming a member. Every month or two we release additional material. We have some material dealing with post WWII.

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl


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Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy


Re: Decyphering a town name

Esther Goldberg
 

Old in Polish is Stare.
Not necessarily have to be a New & Old
Esther


Ancestry Announces a Reduction in the Company's Workforce.

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

Ancestry’s president and CEO, Margo Georgiadis, announced a 6 percent reduction in the company’s workforce blaming a slowdown in consumer demand for the company’s DNA service over the past 18 months. Over sixteen million people have taken a DNA test with Ancestry and the statement says 30 million people worldwide have taken a NA test with some company, not only Ancestry.

 

Ancestry is not the only DNA company that has noticed a slowdown in consumer demand for DNA testing. Georgiadis said, “Future growth will require a continued focus on building consumer trust and innovative new offerings that deliver even greater value to people.” … “Future growth will require a continued focus on building consumer trust and innovative new offerings that deliver even greater value to people.”

 

To read the statement see:

https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2020/02/05/our-path-forward/

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 


Arolsen Archives Adds Online Tools: New Information on Survivors of Nazi Persecution

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

The Arolsen Archives has added an online tool to describe documents the e-Guide. The new part online focuses on documents about people who were looked after by the Allies as survivors of Nazi persecution during the period after 1945.The first part of the e-Guide supplied information on concentration camps.

 

Following the war the displaced persons (DP) were included with the survivors that aid organizations took care of from concentration camps and the liberated forced laborers.  The new part of the e-Guide deciphers numerical codes and other abbreviations for items the DP needed and recorded on their registration cards. The documents explained in the e-Guide make it possible to trace the paths taken by DPs, starting from the place where they first received support and continuing on through to their emigration.

 

The post-war file is now available on the e-Guide.  All the personal data within this card file is available online in early 2020, and provides additional explanatory information on the contents of the card file, which contains about 3.5 million documents.

 

To access the e-Guide to the Arolsen Archives see: https://eguide.arolsen-archives.org/en/  Samples of documents are available on this page as well.  It suggested to use the guide on PCs. While it can be used on smart phones not all the features will be available.

 

The third part of the e-Guide which will focus on Eastern and Western European forced laborers will be available at the end of 2020.

 

To read the press release see:

https://arolsen-archives.org/en/news/neues-wissen-ueber-die-ueberlebenden-der-ns-verfolgung/

 

This is available in English and German. See the dropdown box in the upper right hand corner.

 

The Arolsen Archives (its predecessor was the International Tracing Service -ITS)  are an international documentation center on Nazi persecution and the liberated survivors.  It preserves documents about concentration camp prisoners, foreign forced laborers and the postwar registration of Displaced Persons (DPs)

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: Include Family Name in Subject

JB Haber
 

I'm new here. Where in the Guidelines does it say this?


Viewmate Translation Request - Polish - Surname KITTENPLON

Harry Moatz
 

Hi Genners:

I've posted a four vital records in Polish for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the addresses below.  The first link has two records, the record inRow 1 is the marriage of Leiser and Sara KITTENPLON, the parents of the groom, Meilech, in the second record inRow 2.  Leiser and Sara had six other children before this marriage.  I'm wondering it the records, in addition to containing metrical information, explain whether the parents' marriage is being registered or . The third and fourth records are the death records of Leiser and Sara. They resided in Sambor (Sambir). 

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM78191

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM78192

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM78194

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Harry Moatz

Sambor: KLAUBER, DISTELMAN, KITTENPLON, KUTTENPLAN, GITTENPLON
Jazloweic: TEITELBAUM, ROSENFELD
Monasteryzska: SCHWARTZ, SCHWARZ, ZIACHA
Stanislawow: SCHWARTZ, SCHWARZ
Dembica: WARECH, WARECK, MEER, MEYER


Re: Decyphering a town name

Mike Posnick
 

The town most probably is Sverzhen.  Sverzhen and Novy Sverzhen are located adjacent to one another and near Stolbtsy in Minsk Gubernia, southwest of the city of Minsk.  My GOLOVENCHITZ relatives are from Novy Sverzhen.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
mpoz@...

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