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Searching for TSIPKE GOLDBERG’s married last name

Amy Wisotsky
 

Hi,
My ga Tsipke GOLDBERG (married name unknown) was the only sibling of eight (8)

that did not come to the US and we were told she perished in the Holocaust.

Where: She was born abt. 1902 in Pruzhany,. Her parents, Zelik

(DOB Abt 1861; DOD Abt 1939) and Mindla Blacher GOLDBERG (DOB: Abt. 1867;

DOD: Abt. 1939) were born in Pruzany, arrived in the US in May 1925
and returned to

Poland in abt 1927-28.

I have pieces of information about Tsipke that were handed down to the
family but the

most accurate would come from Mauricio, the youngest sibling and the
one who settled

in Buenos Aires. I am estimating she married young – possibly at age
16 in 1918 and

had two children probably by 1923. When her brother Mauricio left in
1924, he said she

was married with two boys. Tsipke’s husband was a landowner and had
cattle and he

was older than her. They moved to a town not far from Pruzhany.
Tsipke was albino and

had vision problems and was supposedly denied access to the US. But
her husband loved

her – even with her medical condition. I have a photo of Tsipke and
her husband.

Her parents, Zelig and Mindla returned to be with her, leaving Elizabeth, NJ

sometime in 1927-1928. I was told Zelig had a stroke.

I don’t know if it is speculation or factual – but family always said
they died in the

Holocaust. I do not know if all perished in the Holocaust. I have
spent countless hours
researching Ancestry, JewishGen, JRI-PL, Yad Vashem and the US Holocaust Museum
using her maiden name and variations of her first name

Needed information: Are there any other options I may have missed for research?

Is there a way to find her marriage certificate? I would like to find
out if there are

any surviving family members. Additionally, I would like to find out what

happened to her parents Zelig and Mindla (my ggp) when they returned
to be with her.

Thank you!



Amy T. Wisotsky

Louisville, Kentucky USA


Re: Computer program

Dahn Cukier
 

My personal opinion is Brother's Keeper.
I have been using this since 1990's and it has
2 major good features.

1) I can document with photos, documents (pdf, doc, txt and
any other, but may not open from within the program).

2) It is not Internet based and I do not need internet access and
no information is on the internet. I do not have permission from
everyone to upload their information, and i do not think
any site is hack-proof.

3) Quick support considering the original developer responds.

BK is usable out-of-the-box and can be downloaded for free
for trials.

I can de-link people so if a person has a marriage annulled or divorces,
the spouse and all their relatives are de-linked.

The only problem I came on was each person needs (or needed) to be
binary, Male or Female. Since I do not always know by the name, I need a
way to flag these entries for further investigation.

There are many reports, but I like to export to a different
program and produce 50 foot wide family tree charts, but the reports
there are limited.

Dani


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas
(Gunsmoke)


On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 10:20:46 PM GMT+2, estelle <erg2005@...> wrote:


Hello

Can anyone recommend a genealogy program that is vertical and simple to use? I stopped researching years ago after entering 600 names when my upgraded program became too complicated, but I would like to start researching again.

Thank you.

Estelle Guttman #7805
Reston Va


Rabbi Lippe of Vandziogoala

dmann888
 

Hello, 

My name is David and, though American, I live in Asia. I am researching my mother's family - the Goldsmith's. We have very good records leading to the Rabbi Lippe of Vandziogoala. When I mentioned this to the Rabbi at the Chabad where I attend services, he said Rabbi Lippe did a very good job at tracing family genealogy. While we are directly related to him, I'd like to learn more of what Rabbi Lippe learned. Anyone know where I can get more information on Rabbi Lippe, he is out of Lithuania and was a disciple of Goan of Vilna. Thank you.


Re: Searching for ancestor

binyaminkerman@...
 

Sylvia,
This is the type of post that would be very beneficial to have the surname and town included in the heading. Being more specific gets the attention of the people who may be able to help you. Something like this would be good.
Searching for ancestors STERN/STEIN/SZTAIN- Nowy Sacz

Good luck,
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD


computer program

EarthLink
 

I had the same issue. i use a very old version of Family tree Maker. I think it is version 6. it is like a filing cabinet and will take as many names and dates as you want to enter. that is good for me since the family is so large and growing all the time. it is not an online version, but is private to your computer.
Saralea Altman


Re: Researcher need for Fridson's in Grodno archive

Evelyn Doberstein
 

I highly recommend Yuri Dorn, of the research Group "Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus". Yuri was able to trace my Grandfather's family back 5 generations back in Grodno..


Re: #JewishGenNews

Feige Stern
 

Dear Sandra,
I am so very sorry for your loss.
You should be comforted among all the mourners of Zion and Jerusalem.
Feige Kauvar Stern
Cleveland, OH


Re: Computer program

bcloncar@...
 

I use "RootsMagic"   I really like it.


(Germany) Court Rules In Favor of Nazi-Looted Art Database

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

A German Court ruled that the current possessor of a piece of art cannot stop a claimant from registering it on a government database of Nazi-looted are.  This is the latest in several legal challenges to listings on lostart.de  (http://www.lostart.de/Webs/EN/LostArt/Index.html)..the website is in both German and English.  The website is to help victims and their heirs recover cultural property lost due to the Nazis.   At the request of three art dealers, lostart.de removed 63 works by artist Schiele as they were claimed by the heirs of Fritz Grünbaum, who perished at Dachau.  The heirs are trying to get the works re-listed on the register.  Last year a New York Court ordered one of the dealers who requested the art pieces be removed from lostart.de, to return art pieces belonging to Grünbaum’s heirs.

 

History

 

In 1999 an art collector from Baden-Baden, Wolfgang Peiffer, bought a painting at auction unaware that it was sold in 1937, by Max Stern, a Jewish art dealer. Mr. Stern was forced by the Nazis to liquidate his gallery and flee Germany.  The Max Stern Art Restitution Project listed the painting with lostart.de in 2016. But Peiffer has rejected requests to return Sicilian Landscape (1861), saying he believes Stern sold it in a “perfectly normal gallery transaction”.

 

In 2018, Pfeiffer’s lawyer filed suit in Magdeburg regional court asking the Stern estate from claiming ownership of the painting or registering it on lostart.de. The plaintiff said the listing makes the painting “unsellable in practical terms”.  The court dismissed the complaint, saying a listing on lostart.de did not constitute an ownership claim. Peiffer has appealed the ruling.

 

Lostart.de is administered by the government-run German Lost Art Foundation.  It registers cultural objects which as a result of persecution under the Nazi dictatorship and the Second World War were relocated, moved or seized, especially from Jewish owners. To qualify for the database, an entry must pass a “plausibility assessment”. The foundation does not itself conduct provenance research into the items listed and relies on evidence presented by claimants.

 

In a previous lawsuit against lostart.de, according to theartnewspaper.com, “The pre-war Jewish owner of the work had sold it under duress to a Jewish banker, who was expropriated by the Nazis. Lostart.de refused to remove the listing without the approval of both sets of heirs, meaning the planned sale could not take place. The federal court upheld lostart.de’s right to continue listing the painting “because it contains factually correct information about an ongoing suspicion that it is looted art”.

 

In Germany, “current art holders are protected by statutes of limitation and a rule called Ersitzung, under which a good-faith buyer who has held a work of art for ten or more years gains the right of possession. Settlements can be negotiated on the basis of the 1998 Washington Principles on Nazi-looted art, but these were formulated with art in public collections in mind, not private collectors, and they are non-binding.” (http://www.lostart.de/Webs/EN/Datenbank/Grundlagen/WashingtonerPrinzipien.html)

 

To read more about lostart.de see:  http://www.lostart.de/Webs/EN/LostArt/Index.html

To read the article see:  https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/court-ruling-nazi-looted-art

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Maurice POLLACK (of Quebec, 1885-1968) and his ancestors?

Stephen Cohen
 

A few days ago a cousin told me that she heard Maurice POLLACK (born 1885 in Kanele, Ukraine; emigrated to Canada 1902; died 1968 in Quebec City, Canada) was a relative.

Maurice was the founder of Pollack's Department Store in Quebec, and ran a philanthropic organization. I have gleaned from various newspaper articles a bit about his descendants, but NOT his ancestors.

Does anyone have ideas or knowledge of his ancestry (parents, aunts, uncles, etc.) so that I might (or might not) link his POLLACK family to my POLYAK family of Kodnya (near Zhytomyr), Ukraine?

-Steve Cohen, Central New Jersey


Tomergut, Russia - ROSENBLUM

Judy Kaufman
 

My great grandfather's sister (Annie/Esther/Rose Rosenblum b. ca. 1877) married Isaac Friedman.  I do not know where my great grandfather and his sister came from - all the census, ship log, etc. docs I have found, indicate Russian, Austrian, or Russia Poland.  But Isaac's 1930 typewritten Petition for Citizenship says that Isaac's wife is from Tomergut, Russia.  I can't find any place that could possibly be Tomergut - any suggestions?  (I did find a Tonnerhütte in the Austrian alps but it doesn't appear to have ever had a Jewish community.

Judy Kaufman

ROSENBLUM
FRIEDMAN
COHEN
LEIDERMAN (Khashchuvatye)
WEINSTEIN (Sokolow-Malopolski)
RINENHEIM (Sokolow-Malopolski)
RASKIN (Chernigor)


I forgot to add my signature with family names

Judy Kaufman
 

I just submitted a question with topic Tomergut, Russia? First time submitting anything and I realized afterwards I’m supposed to sign with my family names. So I am going to resubmit it with my family names - sorry for the confusions.


Tomergut Russia?

Judy Kaufman
 

My great grandfather's sister, b. ca. 1877, married Isaac Friedman.  I haven't been able to determine where my great grandfather and his sister came from - all the census docs and ship logs I have found say "Russia," "Austrian," or "Russia Poland."  Isaac's typewritten Petition for Citizenship from 1930 states that his wife is from "Tomergut Russia."   I can't find any town that could possibly be Tomergut and would welcome suggestions.  (I have found a town Tonnerhütte in the Austrian alps that doesn't appear to have ever had a Jewish community,)  


Re: 19th century medical condition

Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
 

I believe you have a misspelling of the word PSORIASIS (the letter p is silent). 
This is a skin condition and has been documented for a very very long time. To my knowledge it would not have been a cause of death 
Deanna Levinsky 
Long Island New York 

--
Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY


Conventions for writing down uncertain relationships

Alberto Guido Chester
 

Hi all
I use My Heritage software.
Is there any broadly accepted convention in this or other software to write down a relative I am not sure of ?
Many years ago, I used to keep those not sure relations in my papers. 
But now, when online trees will be available for distant relatives even when I am not living any more, I feel these cases should be included in the tree.
I think of noting something like "relation not proven yet" besides the name, but feels untidy to me.
A dotted line (like before printed trees existed) would be appropriate, but I do not think they are available in genealogy software.
All ideas are welcome.
Thanks in advance

Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina



Re: Klass descendants near Johannesburg, South Africa #southafrica

Louis Zetler
 

Hi,
Ruby & Sydney HOFFMANN. Adrian was an attorney whom I knew personally, He passed away in 2001. Shirley was married to Stanley (surname unknown)
Children of Muriel & Wilfred are Phillip & Suzanne Seider
Hannah & Gerald Miller - when Gerald died he was survived by Ira & Debbie, Moira & David & grandchildren Rael, Shaun, Ilana & Aaron

Louis Zetler
Israel


Re: Pretoria Jewish Cemeteries #southafrica

Louis Zetler
 

Hi Roy,

I think there is an older cemetery in Pta.

Louis


Re: Muizenberg Cemetery #southafrica

Louis Zetler
 

Hi Stan & Saul,

I am bury creating one from the website.

Louis


Computer program

estelle
 

Hello

Can anyone recommend a genealogy program that is vertical and simple to use? I stopped researching years ago after entering 600 names when my upgraded program became too complicated, but I would like to start researching again.

Thank you.

Estelle Guttman #7805
Reston Va


Re: Include Family Name in Subject

jbonline1111@...
 

Precisely!  Exactly what I was trying to explain.  This does not result in a long subject line because we are usually asking about one or two people at a time.

"My understanding of Marjorie's original post was that when posting a message about searching for some elusive relative, the subject should include the relative's name, rather than just e.g. "searching for lost relative".
I don't believe anyone in this thread meant you should put your names of interest in the subject line."
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

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