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Re: Death Certificate for Detroit for Julius Kozloff
Original Message on 6 Mar 2020 from: barbara Schoenburg Mar 6 #640473 Can anyone help? I need a copy of the death certificate for Julius Kozloff (my Grandfather) who died 12/4/1949. Cannot get it as there is a 75 year wait. Thank you ----------------------- Barbara,There certainly is the discrepancy in the date of death in the death record found by Linda Kelley. If this is the Julius KOZLOFF you are seeking, married to Bella (née BELACHEFSKY), with sons Benjamin and Harold, and daughter Elaine (married to David RIESMAN), the Julius who owned a fish market (information from the 1940 US Federal Census and his brief death notice in the Detroit Free Press on Sunday, 7 Sep 1947), then the information was as she provided. From his listing in the Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1963, his birth date was about 1887 (as he was 38 on his arrival in Detroit on 8 Aug 1925). Hence he would have been about 60 when he died, not 7. (From directories, it appears that Bella eventually moved to Miami Beach, FL.) This information doesn’t give you the actual death certificate, but it at least allows you to verify the online information if pertinent and use that as some documentation. Sincerely, Jay Paul San Francisco, CA 94117 Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia), WOLF (Austro-Hungary). -- Jay Paul, PhD San Francisco CA 94117 Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia), WOLF (Austro-Hungary).
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Questions about Surnames - Galicia/Poland
Mitch Mermel
As an example: I've come across listings in the Jewish Records Indexing where the parents are Abraham Hersch LEIMSIDER and Chaje Jütte SIGAL, but the surname for the child may be listed as [ SIGAL V. LEIMSIDER ] or [SIGAL \ LEIMSIDER] or [LEIMSIEDER R SIGAL] or [LEIMSIEDER f SIGAL]. Sometimes the surname will simply be that of the father.
The primary question is, when both surnames are listed, do we assume the child takes on the surname of the father or does some other naming convention come into play? How do we know which surname the child went by? Secondary question: What are the meanings of the "V", "F", "R" or "\" Thank you Mitch MERMEL Orlando, Florida, USA
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Re: City of Rotterdam Archives Posts Passenger Lists of Holland America Line 1900-1920 #Netherlands #Passenger Lists
Harry Auerbach
Thank you. Through this link, I was able to find what I have been looking for for years--my grandfather's passenger record--both on the Rotterdam site and, with that information, through Ellis Island. But I am trying to trace him backwards from there. Is there a way to get more info from the Contract number or agency info on the passenger list? Harry Auerbach AUERBACH/MIRSKY (Brest-Litovsk, Jerusalem) KOROBOV/NAHINSKY (Romny-Poltava) GREENFELD/LEWKOWICZ (Lodz, Piotrkow Tribunalski) RICE/RAJC (Zychlin) MARGET (Vilna)
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SWITKES - KATZ, Looking for Descendants
Carol Jean Weightman
I am looking for any relatives of
Elias Leib SWITKES, born 15 December 1880 in Czernowitz, then Rumania married to: Emilia KATZ, born 11 March 1882 in Lviv Both lived in Leibzig, both were deported and murdered in the Holocaust There was a sizeable Switkes family in Czernowitz. Maybe some relatives emigrated. I would be interested in any information, particularly whether or not Elias and Emilia had children. Thank you. Carol Jean Weightman
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Rechovot IGRA (Israel Genealogy Research Organization) Meeting
Esther
Sunday, March 15, 2920
Schmidt Hall, Weizmann Institute of Science Doors open for refreshments and registration ar 7PM. The lecture will begin at 7:30 PM. The lecture willbe in Hebrew "Breaking the Glass Ceiling" A peep into the research of Moshe Lehrer to uncover the thousand-year old roots of the Horowitz Family.
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New article - Deciphering Jewish Gravestones
I'd like to let everyone know about a new article I published today, titled Deciphering Jewish Gravestones:
https://bloodandfrogs.com/2020/03/deciphering-jewish-gravestones.html The article is a step-by-step guide to understanding the Hebrew inscriptions on Jewish gravestones. There is a downloadable PDF version of the article available as well, which is 32 pages. I hope people find it useful. If you do, please share it. Thank you, Philip Trauring
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Re: Yizkor Book Project Update - March 2020
#yizkorbooks
Binny Lewis
Hello Mr Siegel,
The book will be published free of charge. The price for the book covers the cost of publication and any future projects or upgrades to the YBIP project (Yizkor Book In-Print). We are starting work as we speak. It can take generally 3-6 months to publish a book, but each book has its own details and the timing may vary. Keep an eye out for future Yizkor Book updates to see when it is published. All the best Mr Binny Lewis
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Re: (US-PA) National Museum of American History Files for Bankruptcy
N. Summers
To clarify, It is the National Museum of American Jewish History in Philadelphia, not the Smithsonian National Museum of American History in Washington, DC.
Nancy Summers Maryland, USA
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Death Certificate Needed from New Jersey Archives
Judith Turbin
I have the date of death and location from the on-line index and I should like to acquire a printed copy of the death certificate.
Please contact me if you are going to the Archives. Thank you. Judith Turbin Miami, Florida
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City of Rotterdam Archives Posts Passenger Lists of Holland America Line 1900-1920 #Netherlands #Passenger Lists
Jan Meisels Allen
The City of Rotterdam (Netherlands) Archives has the passenger lists of the Holland-America Line (1900-1920) available. This is for people who booked passage on this line going to the United States or Canada in the time frame mentioned above. If you use the Chrome browser it will automatically translate the website into English, otherwise it is in Dutch ad for those who are not able to read the Dutch translation service is advisable. The passenger lists are free to access.
The passenger lists the surname and initials and occasionally the first name of the person who booked the trip, their original place of departure and when the trip took place. The lists also contains the number of adults and children traveling with that person and the destination. Eventually the archives will have the following years.
Searches can be done by last name, name of the ship, departure port or departure date. You can search via the search field 'all fields' if you are not searching by name or period.
You can put the passenger’s name you are searching into the search field. Go to: https://stadsarchief.rotterdam.nl/zoek-en-ontdek/passagierslijsten/zoeken-op-passagiers/
These lists are also available for free on FamilySearch.org 1900-1974 and may be available on some of the subscription services. https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Netherlands_Passenger_Lists_Holland-America_Line_-_FamilySearch_Historical_Records
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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POLIN Museum Has New Executive Director
Jan Meisels Allen
As reported previously, Poland’s Culture Minister refused to sign off on the Museum’s previous director from 2014-2019. Dariuz Stola, although he won a competition for the second term. To finally move forward the museum board, donors and other partners agreed to support Mr. Stola’s former deputy and current acting director, Zygmunt Stepinski, as the new museum director. Now Poland’s Culture Ministry approved naming former deputy director Zygmunt Stepinski to a three-year term as director. The culture ministry was at times unhappy with the way Stola ran the museum. An exhibition about the 1968 “anti-Zionist campaign” orchestrated by the ruling communists that pushed Jews out of their jobs and drove many out of the country, for example, was particularly unpopular with the ruling Law and Justice Party (PiS). To read more see:
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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New Article on IGRA website - “Hitting the Jackpot”
Elena Bazes
IGRA
(Israel Genealogy Research Association) has posted a new article on its
website, “Hitting the Jackpot” by Garri Regev.
Garri has been volunteering at the National Library of Israel in their Genealogy Center for many years helping people with their genealogy research. In this article, Garri takes us through the step by step process she took in which, within a couple of hours, she was able to find a huge amount of information for a couple who had arrived at the Library with almost no knowledge about their family. Many resources that Garri used in her research that day are discussed here and examples of the results of the research are given. Garri Regev lives in Israel and was an elementary teacher there for over 20 years. Garri has been doing genealogical research since 1995. She volunteers at the Genealogy Center at the National Library of Israel and lectures on Genealogy to various groups and has spoken at 8 IAJGS Conferences. She is among the founders and was President of the Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA). Garri serves on the Board of LitvakSIG. Before viewing the article, please register for free on the IGRA website. The article is available for free for one month to non-members, after which time it can be accessed by IGRA members only. To view the article, go to: https://genealogy.org.il/2020/03/01/hitting-the-jackpot-by-garri-regev/ Elena Biegel Bazes IGRA Publicity Chair
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Re: Death Certificate for Detroit for Julius Kozloff
Linda Kelley
Hello, Barbara,
One problem with Julius' death record is that he died in 1947 and was listed as a 7-year old child, but married.
Portland, OR, USA
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Jewish Genealogical Society of CT, March 15, 2020 Program
Please join the Jewish Genealogical Society of Connecticut on Sunday, March 15, 2020, at 1:30 pm at Temple Sinai, 41 West Hartford Road, Newington, when JGSCT member and popular genealogy speaker Marian Burk Wood presents "From Clues to Conclusions: Can You Prove It?"
To go from clues to answers for tough family history challenges, find out what it means to "prove" something in genealogy. With lively interactive case studies, this how-to presentation defines and demonstrates the use of the Genealogical Proof Standard for planning research, analyzing sources and details, resolving conflicting clues, and coming to a credible solution. Seeing the proof process in action will provide new ideas and insights for turning clues into provable conclusions.
Marian Burk Wood is a popular genealogy speaker, blogger, and author of the best-selling genealogy book “Planning a Future for Your Family’s Past.” Active in genealogy research for more than two decades, she has presented programs at the International and local genealogical conferences. Marian blogs about family-history methodology and issues at https://climbingmyfamilytree. This program is free and open to the public. For additional information, visit www.jgsct.org.
-- Gail K Reynolds, Publicity Chair, Jewish Genealogical Society of Connecticut
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Re: A Brick Wall
janice1219@...
I would love to give more and specific information, but I do not have any. The naturalization record is listed under my g-father, with no specifics about Bertha. The 1930 census is not much help, as there are several Max and Bertha Langers listed.
As for the marriage certificate, it has no information other than what I have listed, other than July 7, 1917. No one is alive to ask. I have seen two different spellings of Grutman/Grubman. I do not know which is correct, because the family insists on Groveman (which I know is not the original). Sorry I cannot give more information.
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Re: Divorce
jbonline1111@...
"...found she got her divorce in Alabama, where we had family. The South has easier divorces."
Actually, most southern states do *not* grant divorces as easily as other states, even to this date. However, I am glad you found your family member, Marge. -- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC
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Re: MANDEL's
#belarus
Anna Rozina
Hello! My name is Anna rosin. I am from Russia (Saint Petersburg). You are looking for ancestors from Belarus named Mandel. So, my maternal great-grandmother had the surname Mandel before her marriage and lived in the city of Mozyr (Belarus). After her marriage, she became Drabovskiy. Even before her marriage, her entire family moves around the world. And she alone remains in Mozyr. So we don't know anything about Mandel on her side. My great-grandmother Sara's name is Lea Simhovna Mandel (which means that her father's name was Simha(Simon) Mandel).
She was born in 1886 (Mazyr?) and died on 25.02.1978 in Leningrad. I married in Mazyr with Yudel Drabovsky (my great-grandfather).I would be happy if there are any matches in the pedigree of Sarah Leia. But unfortunately, nothing is known about her origin, since her parents, brothers and sisters (how many of them were there?) all went abroad. And at that time, it was not possible to find out anything about them.
Best regards Anna
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Re: MANDEL Family from the former Minsk Gubernya
#belarus
Anna Rozina
Hello! My name is Anna rosin. I am from Russia (Saint Petersburg). You are looking for ancestors from Belarus named Mandel. So, my maternal great-grandmother had the surname Mandel before her marriage and lived in the city of Mozyr (Belarus). After her marriage, she became Drabovskiy. Even before her marriage, her entire family moves around the world. And she alone remains in Mozyr. So we don't know anything about Mandel on her side. My great-grandmother Sara's name is Lea Simhovna Mandel (which means that her father's name was Simha(Simon) Mandel).
She was born in 1886 (Mazyr?) and died on 25.02.1978 in Leningrad. I married in Mazyr with Yudel Drabovsky (my great-grandfather).I would be happy if there are any matches in the pedigree of Sarah Leia. But unfortunately, nothing is known about her origin, since her parents, brothers and sisters (how many of them were there?) all went abroad. And at that time, it was not possible to find out anything about them.
Best regards Anna
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Re: A Brick Wall
Renee Steinig
I followed these steps to search for Bertha:
1) Tried to narrow down likely birth year. (Her marriage record, Max's naturalization petition, and censuses suggest c. 1900.) 2) Tried to narrow down likely year of arrival. (According to Max's petition and censuses, it was c. 1914.) 3) Searched further for spellings of her name and found that her marriage license application said GRUBMAN -- a more likely name than GRUTMAN. 4) Searched on Steve Morse's Ellis Island One-Step(https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html) for someone who was born within 5 years of 1900 and arrived within 5 years of 1914, whose first name began with B and last name sounded like GRUBMAN. The result: Brane GRIWMAN, 16, who arrived in January 1914. She was from "Kliskewitz, Russia" and her mother was Perl. She was joining brother Schmuel on Stanton St. GRIWMAN (pronounced GRIVMAN) comes close to GROVEMAN and Perl is a good match to the name Pauline, so I'm optimistic. On Ancestry, this manifest is indexed as GRINMAN. Kliskewitz could be the town that's now Klishkivtsi, Ukraine (https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1042180). Near Khotyn (Khotin), it was in Bessarabia, a region of the Russian Empire, before WWI, and in Romania between the world wars. A notation on Brane's manifest suggests that she herself was naturalized c. 1943, but I couldn't find a corresponding record on Ancestry. Janice, do you know Bertha's Hebrew/Yiddish name? Unfortunately, it's not on her gravestone, which is pictured on FindaGrave (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/205470442/bertha-langer) . Renee Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills (Long Island) NY genmaven@... Janice <janice1219@...> wrote: <<My g-mother Bertha was married in 1917 under the name Grutman. Her parents are listed as Harry and Pauline Needleman. Her birth was in Romania/Russia, and I've seen ages from 27 to 16 years at marriage. I cannot find any confirmation of the family even arriving in the US, but came with the Americanized name of Groveman according to family lore. Bertha married Max Langer and lived in the Bronx....>>
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New Website Documenting Lives of People in World War ll #Netherlands #WorldWar ll,
#holocaust
Jan Meisels Allen
War Lives is a new website to document the lives of people in World War II. The information is shown as a timeline that combines records from different archives and other organizations.
Go to: https://www.oorlogslevens.nl/?lang=en
For example I typed in the name “Goldberg” and those with last name popped up and I chose “Jacob Goldberg” which had 4 results listing the camps he was in. in addition by clicking on the name gave me his birth date and place and death date and place.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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