Re: #poland - Searching for HALLAY, ZAGON and DIMANSKY (Ortelsburg) #poland

Ze'ev Itzhak Tschan

Thank you, Karen!

You are right: Those are my grandparents.

I know FamilySearch and also the Dutch archives. So there is no new information for me. Even if I follow all the links in there. For example: I only see a dead born child of her, but not my mother and not her sister (Else) and brother (Jan). I also don't find the date of her death and I don't remember when this was. It's quite long ago. Something 197x, if I remember right, but could also be 196x...

-> I have to continue my search in Poland, where my grandmothers family came from.

My Grandmother lived in Germany (Rotthausen, near Gelsenkirchen), before she married. I have a document from there, and it states, where her family came from. They came from Prussia (now Poland). I won't find anything more about them in Dutch archives. In my grandfather, who was from Rotterdam, I am not interested.

By the way: I have my family in MyHeritage. Here:

Best regards, Ze'ev
[Ze'ev Itzhak Tschan, Har Adar, Israel]

Re: 1918 Flu Death certificate -- cause of death #general

Jim Gutterman

I had an uncle who passed away at roughly 15 months old. He died in May 1918 in a hospital in Brooklyn where he had been for a little over a week. Cause of death listed as measles. This was right at the time the flu epidemic was starting, and Brooklyn was one of the first areas hit hard.I often wonder if they just misdiagnosed as they just beginning to realize, altho dont think measles n flu should be mistaken for each other, bit a doctor I am not. Anyone with thoughts here please comment.

Re: Records from Suchowola and Sidra, Poland (formerly in Grodno, Russia) #poland

Jill Whitehead

Suchowola is right on the borders with the Suwalki Lomza gubernias, so may be records there. See JRI Poland for any shtetel in this area.

Re: Searching for PHILIPS family possibly from Suvalk (Suwalki) Area

Jill Whitehead

Philips is almost certainly certainly either a patronymic or anglicisation of another name.  Names were changed often on migration. 

Names from the Suwalki Lomza gubernias of NE Poland, some areas now partly in Lithuania (since WW1 Peace Setlement of 1919), can be found on JRI Poland or Litvak SIG.  Suwalk is the anglicisation of Suwalki - there is no V in Polish. 

Kurland was the old name for Latvia, implying a Latvian origin. Sackheim is a German name - though Suwalki Lomza was on the borders with Konigsberg in East Prussia (now Kaliningrad).

You do need to find out what the original name was. It took me many years to find out  that my Abrahams/Abrams ancestors from Suwalki and Manchester UK were originally called Ceglarksi, following a lucky hit on Family Tree DNA, to a US cousin who had a paper trail linking my family to his. Abrahams was the family patronymic. Many Suwalkers went to UK, Sweden and France as well as to North America, mainly early between 1860 and 1880. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK formerly on Editorial Board of Landsmen, journal of Suwalki Lomza SIG (now defunct)
All my 8 great grandparents came from the Suwalki Lomza gubernias to the UK between 1865 and 1875. 

Names from Suwalki Lomza:

Ceglarski later Abrahams/Abrams from Suwalki and Manchester
Serwianski later Servian from Sejny, Lake Serwy and Liverpool
Brin later Brown from Vishtinetz/Wiestieniec/Vistystis/Wistitten (now in Lithuania) and Edinburgh
Rubenstein or Berenstein from Vishtinetz/Wiestieniec/Vistystis/Wistitten (now in Lithuania) and Edinburgh
Guttenberg later Graham from Rajgrod and Hull/Grimsby/Sheffield
Plotnowski/Plottnovsky later Jacobs from Raczki and Hull

Re: 1918 Flu Death certificate #usa

Family and DNA

My great great grandfather's Chicago death certificate says "Chronic
bronchitis with asthma" with contributory cause "old age" -- he was
about 58, & had been treated by the doctor for 5 days. This may all be
correct, but I had always heard he died of that flu.

(not listing research this time as automatic signature should listed; if
not I will try to correct it)

On 3/23/2020 03:35, Gayle Schlissel Riley via Groups.Jewishgen.Org wrote:
On the death certificates for the 1918 flu, what did they label as the
cause? My grandmother had a brother who died at that time. I never saw
the death certificate, only burial records.
What would they say was the cause, for these deaths?
Abraham Schlissel, Detroit Mich. EDER and SCHLISSEL was my family in
Detroit. Thanks Gayle

/// Russia: BENIN / BERLAND Czernigow; Romny, Poltava > (Paris>) Chicago AMBERG BERKOWITZ EPSTEINE Odessa, Kherson, Poltava > (Paris >) Buffalo NY; Chicago GELBURD / GAYLBURD / GOLDBERG / GILBERT Vinnitsya; Nemyriv; Priluki Staraya; Podolia gub. > Philadelphia; Atlantic City; Milwaukee /// Galicia/Poland: BADER Felsztyn (Skelivka) > Philadelphia BADIAN Komarno? FELDMA(N)N Wolanka / Boryslaw > Philadelphia FREIDENHEIM Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. GERTLER Komarno, Wolanka, Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. WEINER/WIENER ? /// Germany: ADELSDORFER  BÄR / BAER Buttenhausen > mid-W US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN. EPSTEI(N)N Willmarsch?, Röhrenfurth/Melsungen, Sachsenhausen, Guxhagen > Luxembourg; Amsterdam; mid-W US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN HAUSSMAN Heidenheim? ISAAK Fellheim? MEYER Hannover > Aurora, IN. MOSES Gottenheim/Gottersheim, Sachsenhausen, Röhrenfurth. ROSENSTEIN Stuttgart; Elberfeld? > Philadelphia, Lancaster, PA.


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Re: #poland - Searching for HALLAY, ZAGON and DIMANSKY (Ortelsburg) #poland

Karen <kgschneider@...>

Hello Ze'ev,

I found an interesting record in  If you are not familiar with the site, you will need to establish a free account to access it. 
Have attached two Family Search links to the transcription of a marriage record from April 11, 1925 in Eijgelshoven (Netherlands).
Maria Hallaij, born March 10, 1904 in Rotthausen (Duitsland) married Jozephus Jacobus Rutten, born November 2, 1900 in Rotterdam, profession: kantoorbediende (office worker).
Maria's surname and the day of her birth are slightly different than you have but perhaps the surname spelling of Hallaij is a Durch version of Hallay? 
It also gives both sets of parents. Maria's are listed as Johann Hallaij, occupation: Landlouwer (farmer/agriculturalist) and Wilhelmine Zagon which are also very close to your information. 

Once you are in the marriage record each person is hyperlinked to more possible records in Family Search. And you will also see links to the Dutch archives that record came from.
If it turns out that the family spent time in the Netherlands, you might be able to seach their archives from the link provided by the marriage record.
I've found the Amsterdam archives excellent and fairly easy to use with the help of google translate for key words. The ones in other parts of the country that Family Search links to might be similar.

Karen Schneider

Re: Children named after their living parents #general

Ina Getzoff

I am Sephardic and it is an accepted custom to name new born babies for living relatives. Generally if the first born is a boy he will be named after his paternal grandfather. If the second child is a girl she will be named after her paternal grandmother. If there is another boy he will be named after his maternal grandfather and another girl will be named after her maternal grandmother. After that it is up to the parents who they may choose to honor with names of any additional children.

Ina Getzoff
Delray Beach, Fla.

Re: tracing relatives that moved to Israel in 1960 -- THANK YOU #romania #israel

John Hoenig

Hi all,

JewishGenners are terrific! I posted a message saying I was excited to learn that some Romanian Honig relatives had moved to Israel around 1962 and almost immediately started receiving messages about my family. I learned that David Honig had a wife, son, and two grandchildren, and also that he had two sibilings in Israel who also had children. I even got a photo of one of my relatives.

Thank you so much to all who responded.

Hoping you are all well and that you stay safe.

John Hoenig

Williamsburg, VA, USA


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Hungarian Translation Request #subcarpathia

Marsha Abraham Shapiro

This is a 1940 death record of my grandfather, Mendel Konigsberg,  registered in Lipcsemezo.  Can someone read the cause of death, located in the last column?
ABRAHAM, HOFFMAN, KONIGSBERG, ACKERMAN - Nagyrakocz/Vel'ky Rakovec, Lipcsepolyana, Imsticovo, Hun/Czech
BOHRER, WACHS/WAKS - Dabrowica (Podkarpackie),Grodzisko, Lezajsk, Jastrzebiec, Kurylowka,Tarnawiec,Poland
WAGNER - Dabrowica (Podkarpackie), Poland
ZIMMERMAN - Tarnogrod, Poland

Re: 1918 Flu Death certificate #usa

Josephine Rosenblum

The 1918 death certificate of a relative in Cincinnati called it "la grippe".  Her doctor was related to her.
Josephine Rosenblum

Re: 1918 Flu Death certificate #usa


The death certificates of my maternal grandmother and my paternal grandfather said death from pneumonia due to the flu.  Remember, there were no antibiotics in 1918.

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Records from Suchowola and Sidra, Poland (formerly in Grodno, Russia) #poland


Looking for any records available for the towns of Suchowola and Sidra near Bialystok in Poland.

Searching for PHILIPS family possibly from Suvalk (Suwalki) Area

Susan Beecher <s_beecher@...>

For a friend, I am searching for her grandmother's maternal ancestors who came to New York City in the late 1800s. Abraham Philips, born about 1844, married to Diana Solons (Solonosky?) and immigrated to the US in 1910.  Their daughter, Fannie Phillps (born 1864 in Russia - 1932) was married (?) to "Zelki" (this is from a memory) Sackheim (? see my note below about his daughter) who died in Russia. They had a daughter, Lena (born 4/24/1888).  Fannie then married Bernard Kurland (1867 -1954)  in Russia and they immigrated to the US in 1892, leaving Lena behind. Fannie and Bernard are listed as Feige and Beril Kurland in the ship's manifest coming to the US.
Lena came to the US in 1903 per the 1910 US Census where she is living with Morris and Sarah Philips and she is described as a niece. (Lena is my friend's grandmother and she knew that she lived with Morris and Sarah Philips when she arrived in the US. My friend had not known that this was her grandmother's maiden name until I found this in the Census. However, I am unable to find anyone with that name coming to the US in 1903. I am wondering if that is not the correct name or if it was spelled very differently previously. I am unable to find the connection between Morris Philips and Fannie Philips. Morris had a brother, Irving Philips who said on his naturalization petition that he was born in Suvalk, Russia.  So to get to the point, I would very much like to find the Philips family in Russia/Poland.  I have searched diligently in Ancestry and in JewishGen with no luck.  I am wondering if Philips is an Americanization of the family's real name. Thanks for any help or advice.
Susan Beecher

Re: Children named after their living parents #general


We were surprised to find a daughter named after a mother on our family tree, but then we learned that the mother died in childbirth so the baby was given the mother’s name.
Estelle Gutttman
Reston VA

Seeking Book: First American Jewish Families: 600 Genealogies 1654-1988 by Rabbi Stern 3rd ed. 1991 #usa

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt

#earlyamerican Although the full text of this book is available online, and free, through the American Jewish Archives, I'm interested in obtaining a hard copy for my personal library as I embark upon a new project with the DAR to identify Jewish patriots of the American Revolution.

If you would like to pass along your copy to a good home, I would happily pay for shipping. Reasonable $ offers will also be considered.

Thank you.

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
Erie, Colorado USA

A message from Gesher Galicia

Steven Turner

Dear Gesher Galicia Members,

I hope all of you are healthy and being careful as we cope with the impact of COVID-19 on ourselves, our families, and our communities worldwide. Please take all necessary precautions.

On behalf of the Board of Directors of Gesher Galicia, I want to reassure you—the silver lining in these unprecedented times—that several of our activities continue. In the next few days, you will receive electronically the March issue of the Galitzianer, which we hope will provide you with interesting material to read. Let me assure you that our editorial team is already focused on delivering to you another exciting edition of the journal, scheduled for the release in June.

Our research teams also remain busy, despite the onsite work being interrupted in many archives in Austria, Poland, and Ukraine. Just before their closure, we received new records from Kraków (Jewish medical students from the Jagiellonian University) and Vienna (Jewish signatories of the 1848 petitions to the Reichstag). Our indexing work across a wide range of research projects continues as before, as does our Przemyśl Identification project. Newly indexed record sets continue to be uploaded to the All Galicia Database. We will communicate the outcomes of all these ongoing projects to you as they are finalized.

Unfortunately, we were forced to cancel a number of educational activities. We will let all of you know when we have new dates for these events, which always provide an opportunity to meet many of our members.

Your passion for Jewish genealogy and learning about Galicia, combined with your dedication to one another during this time of uncertainty, is deeply appreciated and reflects the very best of Gesher Galicia. Thank you.

Once again, please be careful and cautious. We will all get through this and come out stronger.

Sincerely yours,
Steven Turner,
President, Gesher Galicia

Re: Szmul vs Szlama #names


My father's 1917 Manhattan birth record names him Louis, but starting when he was 3 years old, the census calls him Lawrence.  In my lifetime, he was always known as Larry, though he never formally changed his name. This suggests to me that someone else may have done the same thing. Dad didn't know why his mother used a different name, but we surmise he may have been a sickly child.  
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: 1918 Flu Death certificate #usa

Kathy Lorber

My great aunt died in the 1918 pandemic. Her death certificate reads “Influenza Complicated by Lobar Pneumonia.” 

 Kathy Lorber
Montville, NJ

LORBER: Poughkeepsie, NY, Poland, Austria-Hungary, Latvia; FELDMAN: NYC, Varifalu;
LIVINGSTON/LEVENSTEIN: Chicago, Davenport, IA, Lithuania; GOLDMAN/SZEYP: Davenport, IA, Mariampol, Lithuania; DAVIS: Chicago, Wales, UK; HERTZBERG: Chicago, Tuckum, Latvia

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