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trip to Hincesti, Ganshaft, Kotovsk, etc... #romania

M. Amsel-Arieli <nomietai@...>
 

It's all the same:

Kotovsk, Kotovskoye, Khencheshti, Hânceºti,
Gynchesht', Ganchesty, Hînceºti, Khynchesht....

my husband will soon be going to Kishinev for a
business trip and plans a side excursion to his
ancestral home, Kotovsk (the modern name of the
town)

He is researching SUSSMAN and KUSHELEVITZ.

Has anyone beem there? Is there a Jewish
cemetery?
anything to see? Can anyone recommend an
English-speaking guide in Kishinev?

Do any seasoned Jewishgeners have advice,
experience, etc.?

Thanks, Melody Amsel-Arieli
Maaleh Adumim
Israel
RESEARCHING
Slovakia: Amsel, Schonfeld, Baum, Landau,Einhorn,Ritter
Bessarabia: Zazulia, Morgenstern,Cushilevitz,Pollak
Galicia: Einstein
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Romania SIG #Romania trip to Hincesti, Ganshaft, Kotovsk, etc... #romania

M. Amsel-Arieli <nomietai@...>
 

It's all the same:

Kotovsk, Kotovskoye, Khencheshti, Hânceºti,
Gynchesht', Ganchesty, Hînceºti, Khynchesht....

my husband will soon be going to Kishinev for a
business trip and plans a side excursion to his
ancestral home, Kotovsk (the modern name of the
town)

He is researching SUSSMAN and KUSHELEVITZ.

Has anyone beem there? Is there a Jewish
cemetery?
anything to see? Can anyone recommend an
English-speaking guide in Kishinev?

Do any seasoned Jewishgeners have advice,
experience, etc.?

Thanks, Melody Amsel-Arieli
Maaleh Adumim
Israel
RESEARCHING
Slovakia: Amsel, Schonfeld, Baum, Landau,Einhorn,Ritter
Bessarabia: Zazulia, Morgenstern,Cushilevitz,Pollak
Galicia: Einstein
MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget JewishGen's Shtetlschleppers when planning trips to
ancestral lands! Private replies please.











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Re: Matzeva inscription #rabbinic

Israel P
 

On 2005.08.28, Udi Cain <chaikin@...> wrote:

It seems that there may had been a slight mistake in the writings,
and I think that it should have been: "Hagadol Batora", which in
Hebrew means , 'a person who is very fluent in his knowledge of the
bible'.
"Torah" is this context (mosts contexts, actually) is not limited
to Bible, but encompasses Jewish learning in general and Talmud in
particular.

Israel Pickholtz

Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Matzeva inscription #rabbinic

Israel P
 

On 2005.08.28, Udi Cain <chaikin@...> wrote:

It seems that there may had been a slight mistake in the writings,
and I think that it should have been: "Hagadol Batora", which in
Hebrew means , 'a person who is very fluent in his knowledge of the
bible'.
"Torah" is this context (mosts contexts, actually) is not limited
to Bible, but encompasses Jewish learning in general and Talmud in
particular.

Israel Pickholtz

Re: Simha Binim/ Bunim/Bonim #poland

Tzilla Kratter <kratter@...>
 

re: The names "Biniem" and "Benyamin"

Simha Binim or Bonim runs in my father's family >from Kock. My father
and his uncle were both Simha Binim before they changed their name to
Simon. My father never told me Binim had anything to do with Benyamin.

Menachem Mendel Morgenstern, the Kotzker rabbi was the successor of
Simcha Bunim of Peshischa - both prominent figures in Eastern European
Cassidic movement.

I always wondered what the name (Binim) means but still haven't found an
answer. I wonder if - like Yehuda Leib (translated >from Gur Arieh
Yehuda... Genesis 49:9) Binyamin Wolf (Binyamin Zeev yitrof....Genesis
49:27) Simha Bonim could be based on the verse >from Psalms 113:9 "Em
Habanim Semeha". It is a wild guess but although I have tried to find
the meaning for quite a while now , I haven't come up with anything.

I'd really like to know the origin and meaning of Binim.

Tzilla Kratter, Jerusalem

Researching: FAJNMEL/FAJNMEHL (Lodz, Lublin), KIRSZENBAUM ( Markuszow,
Lodz)
KRAUZBERG/KRUZBERG (Konskowola), ROTBAUM(Kock, Lublin,Lodz, Firlej),
KRATTER (Lwow), FRIEDLENDER (Lwow, Brody), BILLIG/WILIK (Brody)

JRI Poland #Poland Re:Simha Binim/ Bunim/Bonim #poland

Tzilla Kratter <kratter@...>
 

re: The names "Biniem" and "Benyamin"

Simha Binim or Bonim runs in my father's family >from Kock. My father
and his uncle were both Simha Binim before they changed their name to
Simon. My father never told me Binim had anything to do with Benyamin.

Menachem Mendel Morgenstern, the Kotzker rabbi was the successor of
Simcha Bunim of Peshischa - both prominent figures in Eastern European
Cassidic movement.

I always wondered what the name (Binim) means but still haven't found an
answer. I wonder if - like Yehuda Leib (translated >from Gur Arieh
Yehuda... Genesis 49:9) Binyamin Wolf (Binyamin Zeev yitrof....Genesis
49:27) Simha Bonim could be based on the verse >from Psalms 113:9 "Em
Habanim Semeha". It is a wild guess but although I have tried to find
the meaning for quite a while now , I haven't come up with anything.

I'd really like to know the origin and meaning of Binim.

Tzilla Kratter, Jerusalem

Researching: FAJNMEL/FAJNMEHL (Lodz, Lublin), KIRSZENBAUM ( Markuszow,
Lodz)
KRAUZBERG/KRUZBERG (Konskowola), ROTBAUM(Kock, Lublin,Lodz, Firlej),
KRATTER (Lwow), FRIEDLENDER (Lwow, Brody), BILLIG/WILIK (Brody)

PULCOVITCH, GRILUS of Kovno #lithuania

Diane Paul <diane.paul2@...>
 

I am researching my father's family, who came >from Kovno Guberniya but can
find no records of the name PULCOVITCH or his mother's family name, GRILUS.
The latter may have been GERULIS. The American descendents are GRILL, the UK
branch call themselves GREEN. PULCOVITCH became PAUL in both countries. If
anyone has information that may help to get me started, please get in touch.

Diane Paul
Manchester, UK

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania PULCOVITCH, GRILUS of Kovno #lithuania

Diane Paul <diane.paul2@...>
 

I am researching my father's family, who came >from Kovno Guberniya but can
find no records of the name PULCOVITCH or his mother's family name, GRILUS.
The latter may have been GERULIS. The American descendents are GRILL, the UK
branch call themselves GREEN. PULCOVITCH became PAUL in both countries. If
anyone has information that may help to get me started, please get in touch.

Diane Paul
Manchester, UK

Graduation Photos as a way of identifying Belarus Holocaust Victims #belarus

Deborah Glassman <dgg2020@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG Members,

There is something that you can do to help find the names and pictures of
children and young adults >from Belarus who died in the Holocaust. The
Lyakhovichi shtetl site is looking for public school graduation pictures
that were taken in Lyakhovichi, Baranovichi, and the surrounding
communities, especially in the Polish period of 1920-1939. We invite you to
join us in this search for the children of your towns, as we search for
images of the children who were taken >from us. Jewish children attended
public schools all over what is now Belarus in both the Russian and Polish
periods. Graduation photos, annual grade pictures, and pictures taken at
different school levels >from kindergarten to grammar school and high school
graduation are not American inventions. We need these documents as one of
the last possible ways to put a face on those we lost. If your ancestor's
town does not have a place on JewishGen to post these pictures for your
community, I will make a personal effort to help you post these pictures on
Jewishgen, time is precious and we have to get this done now.

Many of our old towns have no Jews in them today, but do have people that
will tell you that they "went to school" with this Jewish neighbor or that.
If you are visiting, haul out your digital camera and take pictures of their
pictures. If everybody who established one friendly contact on a past visit
to Lyakhovichi (substitute the name of your ancestors' town to find your own
urgency) wrote a letter to that person asking for help in finding school
pictures, our resources would build quickly. We need the pictures collected,
scanned, and put online, so unnamed children who perished will not perish
from our memories. Write to a library in the town and write to the school.
We would like pictures of every graduation picture they have, perhaps
stopping just before WW II. Use your sweetest tones, your most gracious
letter-writing, the mission is an important one!

Of course for Lyakhovichi, we are interested in all photographs taken at all
times. We want to scan and post every single family picture ever taken in
Lyakhovichi, every portrait, every graduation and autographed picture
postcard ever sent >from inside our town. We want the pictures sent back home
by the first-generation abroad >from their new homes in the United States,
Canada, Cuba, South Africa, Argentina, the UK, and more. But the special
need that I am writing about here, is that we want your help in finding
pictures of every graduation picture >from public schools, cheders, yeshivot,
teacher's colleges, gymnasia, music class, art class, etc. Every group
picture that we find increases the chances of helping a researcher find his
family in images. Every group picture that includes a Jewish child, teen,
young adult, or young married couple, who was murdered by the Nazis, makes
the Nazis murderous efforts that much more thwarted. This is a special duty.
Please help us search for these records that are still there to be found!

Deborah Glassman
Elkins Park PA (just outside Philadelphia)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lyakhovichi/lyakhovichi.html

Belarus SIG #Belarus Graduation Photos as a way of identifying Belarus Holocaust Victims #belarus

Deborah Glassman <dgg2020@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG Members,

There is something that you can do to help find the names and pictures of
children and young adults >from Belarus who died in the Holocaust. The
Lyakhovichi shtetl site is looking for public school graduation pictures
that were taken in Lyakhovichi, Baranovichi, and the surrounding
communities, especially in the Polish period of 1920-1939. We invite you to
join us in this search for the children of your towns, as we search for
images of the children who were taken >from us. Jewish children attended
public schools all over what is now Belarus in both the Russian and Polish
periods. Graduation photos, annual grade pictures, and pictures taken at
different school levels >from kindergarten to grammar school and high school
graduation are not American inventions. We need these documents as one of
the last possible ways to put a face on those we lost. If your ancestor's
town does not have a place on JewishGen to post these pictures for your
community, I will make a personal effort to help you post these pictures on
Jewishgen, time is precious and we have to get this done now.

Many of our old towns have no Jews in them today, but do have people that
will tell you that they "went to school" with this Jewish neighbor or that.
If you are visiting, haul out your digital camera and take pictures of their
pictures. If everybody who established one friendly contact on a past visit
to Lyakhovichi (substitute the name of your ancestors' town to find your own
urgency) wrote a letter to that person asking for help in finding school
pictures, our resources would build quickly. We need the pictures collected,
scanned, and put online, so unnamed children who perished will not perish
from our memories. Write to a library in the town and write to the school.
We would like pictures of every graduation picture they have, perhaps
stopping just before WW II. Use your sweetest tones, your most gracious
letter-writing, the mission is an important one!

Of course for Lyakhovichi, we are interested in all photographs taken at all
times. We want to scan and post every single family picture ever taken in
Lyakhovichi, every portrait, every graduation and autographed picture
postcard ever sent >from inside our town. We want the pictures sent back home
by the first-generation abroad >from their new homes in the United States,
Canada, Cuba, South Africa, Argentina, the UK, and more. But the special
need that I am writing about here, is that we want your help in finding
pictures of every graduation picture >from public schools, cheders, yeshivot,
teacher's colleges, gymnasia, music class, art class, etc. Every group
picture that we find increases the chances of helping a researcher find his
family in images. Every group picture that includes a Jewish child, teen,
young adult, or young married couple, who was murdered by the Nazis, makes
the Nazis murderous efforts that much more thwarted. This is a special duty.
Please help us search for these records that are still there to be found!

Deborah Glassman
Elkins Park PA (just outside Philadelphia)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lyakhovichi/lyakhovichi.html

S. PONCLER, Alsace, France c 1600 #france

Ms Sarah Walls <walnut1946@...>
 

I am looking for ancestors of S. PONCLER >from France
who migrated to Germany later 1600's and still later
about 1714 immigrated to America aboard the ship
Elizabeth >from Rotterdam but last >from Cowes, England
and then to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The most
common first name seems to be Serick and Ludwig.
Surnames spellings have been Pfantzeler, Pfantzler,
Pfanzler, Ponstler, Poncler.

I'm new at this and not sure how to find out
information >from that long ago. Also I speak only
English so cannot research German or French documents.

Sarah Wall
St Petersburg, Florida

French SIG #France S. PONCLER, Alsace, France c 1600 #france

Ms Sarah Walls <walnut1946@...>
 

I am looking for ancestors of S. PONCLER >from France
who migrated to Germany later 1600's and still later
about 1714 immigrated to America aboard the ship
Elizabeth >from Rotterdam but last >from Cowes, England
and then to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The most
common first name seems to be Serick and Ludwig.
Surnames spellings have been Pfantzeler, Pfantzler,
Pfanzler, Ponstler, Poncler.

I'm new at this and not sure how to find out
information >from that long ago. Also I speak only
English so cannot research German or French documents.

Sarah Wall
St Petersburg, Florida

Re: Obtaining Canadian Immigration Records #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Beatrice,
Immigration to Canada records pre-1911 aren't restricted. They're on
microfilm, but aren't indexed at all. The films are at the Canada
National Archives, and you can probably can get your local library to
order some via inter-library loan - I did.

My local library hadn't dealt with those archives, so I had to give
them the precise forms, and walk them through it. You'll want to
choose a library with microfilm viewing machines, because you'll
probably have to look at them on-site. Details of inter-library loan
are at <http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html> (Note: for
me, there was no cost - my local library covered the postage, and the
Archives doesn't charge anything.)

Also, since the films aren't indexed, you'll need to know which port,
and which date - or resign yourself to looking through many reels.

The good news is that there were far fewer ports than the US had, and
there were fewer passengers, so fewer records to review. Also, the
Canadians tracked more "places than the US - such localities as
Galicia and Bukkovina. so keep in mind exactly where your people were
from (sometimes you could read the locale easier than the names.) T
he bad news is that most of the reels I reviewed were wound
backwards, and Canadian manifests list the ship name and date on only
the first page - so you have to reel to the first page, then
backtrack if it's the right ship . . .

Hlary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia USA

PS - Naturalization records are issued to Canadian citizens and
residents only. Records before 1916 are minimal - sometimes only an
index card - literally.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Obtaining Canadian Immigration Records #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Beatrice,
Immigration to Canada records pre-1911 aren't restricted. They're on
microfilm, but aren't indexed at all. The films are at the Canada
National Archives, and you can probably can get your local library to
order some via inter-library loan - I did.

My local library hadn't dealt with those archives, so I had to give
them the precise forms, and walk them through it. You'll want to
choose a library with microfilm viewing machines, because you'll
probably have to look at them on-site. Details of inter-library loan
are at <http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html> (Note: for
me, there was no cost - my local library covered the postage, and the
Archives doesn't charge anything.)

Also, since the films aren't indexed, you'll need to know which port,
and which date - or resign yourself to looking through many reels.

The good news is that there were far fewer ports than the US had, and
there were fewer passengers, so fewer records to review. Also, the
Canadians tracked more "places than the US - such localities as
Galicia and Bukkovina. so keep in mind exactly where your people were
from (sometimes you could read the locale easier than the names.) T
he bad news is that most of the reels I reviewed were wound
backwards, and Canadian manifests list the ship name and date on only
the first page - so you have to reel to the first page, then
backtrack if it's the right ship . . .

Hlary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia USA

PS - Naturalization records are issued to Canadian citizens and
residents only. Records before 1916 are minimal - sometimes only an
index card - literally.

Re: UK surname online search #general

Sheila Toffell
 

I wish! There is no such search engine on the scale of JRI-PL. Their
records were gleaned >from the Mormon archives and uploaded by volunteers,
more currently data is being uploaded >from agreements with the authorities
in Poland.

The website http://freebmd.rootsweb.com sometimes gets you a hit. The
volunteers there are going through the UK archives page by page, area by
area. If you are lucky, you will get a match on Freebmd, and that will give
you dates, document location, volume and page numbers. Just remember that
some names are not just Jewish ones, and so a name like my Aunt's, Annie
Harris, who born in Mile End Old Town around 1900 produced more than one
hit. That is when you have to get at the actual records. There are no
details given.

The reality is that apart >from the census, there is not much you can do
apart >from either going to the archives in the UK or paying them to do
research for you. A lot of stuff was lost due to bombing in WW2, which
doesn't help, and also the British authorities were somewhat shortsighted in
what they deemed important documents, so many immigration and natz papers
were destroyed. Consequently, as far as I know there is scant information
about ships lists, immigration docs >from ports of entry, etc etc. I would
be delighted if someone could tell me I'm wrong!

Sheila Toffell
Glen Rock NJ
Ex. Clapton, London, E5

<alexallen@...> wrote

My maternal grandmother left Bessarabia in the early 1900s, following
several aunts, sisters and brothers to London (where they settled), and she
eventually on to New York. I have been unsuccessful in locationg an online
index for searching UK immigration, naturalisation, marriage, birth or death
records by surname online? I read the Beginner's Guide to Jewish Genealogy
in Great Britain pamphlet that I bought at a Jewishgen convention & I've
examined the [familyrecords.gov.uk] site. Both suggest that you can search
for surnames online, but I'm stumped on locating an index (along the lines of
JRI-Poland) of records that are available for any of those categories of vital
documents. Any assistance will appreciated.

BERGSTREIT, DORMAN, ERSTLING from Brzezany #general

Diane Paul <diane.paul2@...>
 

I am researching Brzezany and have quite a bit of background. If anyone
knows of the DORFMAN, BERGSTREIT or ERSTLING families >from this area, I
would like to hear >from them. They are my mother's family. She had a number
of Bergstreit aunts, including triplets and I cannot find records of
marriages, so have only maiden names.
Diane Paul
Manchester, England
diane.paul2@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE:UK surname online search #general

Sheila Toffell
 

I wish! There is no such search engine on the scale of JRI-PL. Their
records were gleaned >from the Mormon archives and uploaded by volunteers,
more currently data is being uploaded >from agreements with the authorities
in Poland.

The website http://freebmd.rootsweb.com sometimes gets you a hit. The
volunteers there are going through the UK archives page by page, area by
area. If you are lucky, you will get a match on Freebmd, and that will give
you dates, document location, volume and page numbers. Just remember that
some names are not just Jewish ones, and so a name like my Aunt's, Annie
Harris, who born in Mile End Old Town around 1900 produced more than one
hit. That is when you have to get at the actual records. There are no
details given.

The reality is that apart >from the census, there is not much you can do
apart >from either going to the archives in the UK or paying them to do
research for you. A lot of stuff was lost due to bombing in WW2, which
doesn't help, and also the British authorities were somewhat shortsighted in
what they deemed important documents, so many immigration and natz papers
were destroyed. Consequently, as far as I know there is scant information
about ships lists, immigration docs >from ports of entry, etc etc. I would
be delighted if someone could tell me I'm wrong!

Sheila Toffell
Glen Rock NJ
Ex. Clapton, London, E5

<alexallen@...> wrote

My maternal grandmother left Bessarabia in the early 1900s, following
several aunts, sisters and brothers to London (where they settled), and she
eventually on to New York. I have been unsuccessful in locationg an online
index for searching UK immigration, naturalisation, marriage, birth or death
records by surname online? I read the Beginner's Guide to Jewish Genealogy
in Great Britain pamphlet that I bought at a Jewishgen convention & I've
examined the [familyrecords.gov.uk] site. Both suggest that you can search
for surnames online, but I'm stumped on locating an index (along the lines of
JRI-Poland) of records that are available for any of those categories of vital
documents. Any assistance will appreciated.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BERGSTREIT, DORMAN, ERSTLING from Brzezany #general

Diane Paul <diane.paul2@...>
 

I am researching Brzezany and have quite a bit of background. If anyone
knows of the DORFMAN, BERGSTREIT or ERSTLING families >from this area, I
would like to hear >from them. They are my mother's family. She had a number
of Bergstreit aunts, including triplets and I cannot find records of
marriages, so have only maiden names.
Diane Paul
Manchester, England
diane.paul2@...

Moravian KAUNITZ family #austria-czech

Karen Cecilio <kcecilio@...>
 

Hello,

I am doing research on my husband's line, KAUNITZ. Most of my research takes
me back as far as parts of western Hungary/Slovakia, mostly Trencsin and
Nyitra Megye (counties). But the family seems to have arrived there in the
very late 1780s.

It is my theory that the family originated in Moravia, >from the estates of
the noble Christian family, the Counts von Kaunitz. (Wenzel Anton Kounitz,
for instance, >from 1753 until his retirement in 1792 served the Hapsburg
rulers, Maria Theresa, Joseph II, and Leopold II, as chancellor and foreign
minister.)

I believe this line of Jewish Kaunitzs may have left Moravia because of the
Familianten laws, and traveled as many did to Hungary, taking the name KAUNITZ
as that is where they may have been from.

I have found very little information about the Jews who lived in the town of
Dolni Kaunice or on the Kaunitz estates, how vast those estates were, the
conditions of Jews on these lands, the relationship between the noble Kaunitzs
and the jews on their land, etc. If anyone knows of any information that may
be helpful to me, I would very much like to hear >from you, off list.

Thanks so much,

Karen Cecilio
Akron, Ohio USA

KAUNITZ of Moravia, Banovce nad Bebravou (Baan), Hungary, etc.

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Moravian KAUNITZ family #austria-czech

Karen Cecilio <kcecilio@...>
 

Hello,

I am doing research on my husband's line, KAUNITZ. Most of my research takes
me back as far as parts of western Hungary/Slovakia, mostly Trencsin and
Nyitra Megye (counties). But the family seems to have arrived there in the
very late 1780s.

It is my theory that the family originated in Moravia, >from the estates of
the noble Christian family, the Counts von Kaunitz. (Wenzel Anton Kounitz,
for instance, >from 1753 until his retirement in 1792 served the Hapsburg
rulers, Maria Theresa, Joseph II, and Leopold II, as chancellor and foreign
minister.)

I believe this line of Jewish Kaunitzs may have left Moravia because of the
Familianten laws, and traveled as many did to Hungary, taking the name KAUNITZ
as that is where they may have been from.

I have found very little information about the Jews who lived in the town of
Dolni Kaunice or on the Kaunitz estates, how vast those estates were, the
conditions of Jews on these lands, the relationship between the noble Kaunitzs
and the jews on their land, etc. If anyone knows of any information that may
be helpful to me, I would very much like to hear >from you, off list.

Thanks so much,

Karen Cecilio
Akron, Ohio USA

KAUNITZ of Moravia, Banovce nad Bebravou (Baan), Hungary, etc.