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Re: Researching family in Saint Petersburg, Russia #russia

Joel Ratner
 

In support of Herbs point, here is a short history of St. Petersburg. Peter the Great founded the city in 1701. Lands from Poland were ceded twice during the 1770s and fhe third and final partition of Poland occurred in 1795. The importance of these events lies in the fact that prior to the partitions, there were not many Jews within Russia proper however, with the partitions, Catherine now owned lands with large numbers of Jews and had to decide what to do with them. Her answer was the formation of the Pale of Settlement.

See the article on the Pale for further information. 

Generally, Jews were not allowed to live outside the Pale however, the exceptions to the rule began to take place in the 1850s under Alexander II. This is the time where the strict prohibitions began to unravel for selected classes of people. Alexander ruled from 1855. An examination of the listing of 549 metrical register books for the Jewish community of SPB (Choral Synagogue), the first metrical register of births in the SPB archives is 1856.The listing states this register contained marriages, deaths and divorces however, examination of the images shows births were included.  The births of thirteen boys and nine girls were recorded as well as some marriages and deaths. See the record listing at SPB Metrical Register Listing .  A translated version appears below.



In the 1850s, the exceptions to the rules of prohibited residence outside the Pale began to emerge and these are discussed at some length in the YIVO article. Suffice it to say that artisans, army veterans, etc. were sometimes granted access to settlement in SPB from this time. This was the seeding of the population with the first community of Jews. Metrical registers are available in the SPB archive (TsGIA) for the Jewish community through 1918.

On a decidedly different but related topic, see the 

Laws Pertaining to the Jews in Russia

Full text of: The Persecution of the Jews in Russia

Joel Ratner


Re: Name IDA #names

brotker@...
 
Edited

My great grandmother Ida was named Chaia (Chaja) in the old country.
 
Regards, Bobby Rotker
 
 


Re: Researching family in Saint Petersburg, Russia #russia

yelena.v.volk@...
 

of course you can to find many jewish surnames (type them by cyrillic letters) in the site of S-Peterburg archives
https://spbarchives.ru/infres/-/archivestoresearch/extsearch and in the vital records book of Peterburg sinagogue!


Re: Seeking FEUERLICHT - to USA late 1800s #austria-czech #hungary

jrsackerman@...
 

I used to know the Feuerlichts when I lived in New York and saw their son when he was a boy but I have not kept in touch.  Sorry.


ViewMate translation request - Russian #ukraine #russia

Terry Ashton
 

Good evening from Melbourne.

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need as detailed a translation as possible please. It is the death record for Jochwet Wierzbowicz.

 

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM79083

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

 

Ms Terry Ashton

Melbourne, Australia

 

SEARCHING:

PRASHKER: Kalisz,  Poland

SZUMOWSKI: Gorki, Zdunska Wola, Lomza,  Poland

WIERZBOWICZ: Kossaki, Poland

WAJNGOT: Hungary

GOLDMAN: Budapest,  Hungary ;Blaszki, Poland

SEGAL/SEGALOVITCH: Vilnius, Lithuania

HOLTZ: Dvinsk, Russia (now Latvia)

 

 

 


ViewMate translation request - Russian #ukraine #russia

Terry Ashton
 

Good evening from Melbourne.

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need as detailed a translation as possible please. It is part 2 of the birth record for Kuszel Chaim Wierzbowicz.

 

It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM79082

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

 

Ms Terry Ashton

Melbourne, Australia

 

SEARCHING:

PRASHKER: Kalisz,  Poland

SZUMOWSKI: Gorki, Zdunska Wola, Lomza,  Poland

WIERZBOWICZ: Kossaki, Poland

WAJNGOT: Hungary

GOLDMAN: Budapest,  Hungary ;Blaszki, Poland

SEGAL/SEGALOVITCH: Vilnius, Lithuania

HOLTZ: Dvinsk, Russia (now Latvia)

 

 

 


ViewMate translation request - Russian #ukraine #russia

Terry Ashton
 

Good evening from Melbourne.

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need as detailed a translation as possible please. It is part 2 of the birth record for Jochwet Wierzbowicz.

 

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM79080

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

 

Ms Terry Ashton

Melbourne, Australia

 

SEARCHING:

PRASHKER: Kalisz,  Poland

SZUMOWSKI: Gorki, Zdunska Wola, Lomza,  Poland

WIERZBOWICZ: Kossaki, Poland

WAJNGOT: Hungary

GOLDMAN: Budapest,  Hungary ;Blaszki, Poland

SEGAL/SEGALOVITCH: Vilnius, Lithuania

HOLTZ: Dvinsk, Russia (now Latvia)

 

 

 


ViewMate translation request - Russian #ukraine #russia

Terry Ashton
 

Good evening from Melbourne.

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need as detailed a translation as possible please. It is part 1 of the birth record for Jochwet Wierzbowicz.

 

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM79079

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

 

Ms Terry Ashton

Melbourne, Australia

 

SEARCHING:

PRASHKER: Kalisz,  Poland

SZUMOWSKI: Gorki, Zdunska Wola, Lomza,  Poland

WIERZBOWICZ: Kossaki, Poland

WAJNGOT: Hungary

GOLDMAN: Budapest,  Hungary ;Blaszki, Poland

SEGAL/SEGALOVITCH: Vilnius, Lithuania

HOLTZ: Dvinsk, Russia (now Latvia)

 


Re: Children named after their living parents #general

Eric Davis
 

I know Sephardi do that but, Eastern European Ashkenazi will only name after a deceased relative so the Angel of Death doesn't take the child.


Somlo-Horowitz-Margareten family of Toronto #holocaust

Neil Rosenstein
 

Trying to make contact with the family of the late Dinah Somlo (died
January 2019) and posted numerous pages of Testimony to Yad VaShem for
relatives who perished in The Holocaust. I am working on the Horowitz
family tree. Dinah was the daughter of Jeno Grunfeld and her mother
remarried William Hochstadter.


Re: Name IDA #names

Barbara Singer
 

had aunt who was Ida & CHAYEH in Yiddish
Barbara Singer Meis


Yiddish or Hebrew name for IDA #belarus #names

Marilyn Weinman
 

Hello all my fellow Jewish Genners !

I hope this finds everyone in good health and safe tonight. 

I need some help figuring out my maternal grandmother's birth name. She was born Ida Jablonsky somewhere around 1873-74 I believe,in Pruzani, Russia,which I know is now Belarus. Not sure if town name is the same though. The question I have, that I'm hoping someone will know is,what may have been the Yiddish /or Hebrew name for Ida. I believe Ida was her given name prior to entering the U.S.,as it's spelled out Ida on the Declaration of Intention document that I've found.
Thanks for any help I can get :)
Marilyn
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Marilyn Weinman


Seek name origin Ida JABLONSKI #belarus #russia #names

Marilyn Weinman
 

Hope this finds everyone healthy and safe this evening !
--
My maternal grandmother was born somewhere around 1873 - 74 in Pruzani,Russia,which I now believe is Belarus. Not sure the town name is the same ? 
My grandmother's name was Ida Jablonsky, and my question pertains to her name. I'm assuming that Ida was her given name when she arrived in the U.S.,but does anyone know what the Hebrew/ Yiddish name would've been at birth ?
Thanks for any help I can get, and stay well :) 
Marilyn


Eliach-Rosensweig-Biderman-Horowitz lineage #general

Neil Rosenstein
 

Trying to make contact with the children of late Dr. Yaffa Eliach -
Smadar and Yotav to update the family record to the present
generations.


Re: Inquiry re: Researching family in Saint Petersburg, Russia #general

Beverley Davis
 

Previous messsage:
From: geniediane
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 04:50:14 AEDT
From what i have discovered, Jews were not allowed to live in these cities in the 19th century. If the did it wss because they worked for a wealthy or politically or military family.
Diane Jacobs

My reply:
My grandfather was a capmaker, unlikely to have had influential patrons. His second child (my mother's older sister) is recorded as having been born in Saint Petersburg in 1896. The family is also listed in the 1897 First All Russian Census as living in S.P.  The family emigrated to England in 1898.

Beverley Davis
Melbourne, Australia


Re: Given name Ksyel

Philip Heilbrunn
 

The name KSYEL – pronounced K’seal is an abbreviation of the name YEKUSIEL (Ykutiel in modern Hebrew)

 

 

YEKUSIEL minus the first letter YUD amounts to KSEAL or KSIEL

 

Sincerely

 

Rabbi Philip Heilbrunn

Melbourne


Brief Translation Request from German #hungary #germany

jzeisler@...
 

A cousin of mine wrote the following on his ITS card after the war. Google does a terrible job of translating it, so would someone please translate this for me? 

Vor etwa zwei Monaten ereignete sich im Stadtwäldchen ein Renfonter zwischen dem Parkettänzer Grasen Henri Viglia und dem Reservoeoberteutnant Ladislaus Vècsey, das mit zwei nicht unerheblichen Verwundungen Viglias endete.

Google translates it as "About two months ago, a reindeer fronter between the parquet dancer Grasen Henri Viglia and the reserve senior lieutenant Ladislaus Vècsey occurred in the city grove, which ended with two not inconsiderable injuries to Viglia." The problem are the words "reindeer fronter" and parquet dancer" which make no sense. And is "city grove" correct? 

Thank you!

Jerry


Re: Children named after their living parents #general

Stephen Weinstein
 

I read once that in Sephardic custom, the parents don't name babies after themselves (the baby's own parents).  They only name their babies after other living relatives.


Samuel Stein #general

Karen <kgschneider@...>
 

Hi Stuart,

In case you are still searching for records of your grandfather Samuel Stein, I ran across a headstone on Jewishdata.com from Waldheim Cemetery, Chicago, that seems like it could be him.
Am attaching that image along with an obituary and links to more cemetery records from Findagrave.com for Samuel, wife Rose and two of their daughters.
Most provide information about other family members as well as a mention of Samuel's father, Chaim Lev Zvi Stein.

It also appears there are records available on Ancestry.com including naturalization and census. 
Feel free to email me if this is indeed your grandfather and you would like more information and do not have access to that site.
Also if any of the attached links do not work.

Regards,
Karen Gregar Schneider

Bolingbrook, Illinois, USA

Researching:

Gregar/Groger: Hoorepnik, Czechia and Amsterdam, Montgomery Co., New York, USA

Popper: Amsterdam, Montgomery Co., New York, USA

 




Re: NYC Voter Lists includes Children #general #usa

Stephen Weinstein
 

Maybe it's not a voter list.  Maybe ancestry misidentified it.  I don't know.  Just guessing.

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