Re: Translation from German #translation #germany

Rodney Eisfelder

Please make a higher resolution scan and post to Viewmate. See:
What you have posted here is highly compressed and low resolution.
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia

Re: Chasidei Aish V'Or #rabbinic

Moses Jefferson


They were a group of pious, well learned Chasidim who most of them lived or learned in the Hungarian Shtetel Nyírvasvári (Oshvar in Yiddish). They were know for their tremendous piety an were know to be well versed in the Kabalistic works of Rabbi Issac Luria (the Arizal) (See Sefer Heichal Habracha from Rabbi Issac of Komarno parashat Matos)

Thus they were called Chasidei Aish V’oR (a wordplay based on the name of the Shtetel) literally meaning Fire and Light (translation from Hebrew).

A big influencer of the group was Rabbi Yitzchak Issac Taub of the Kaliv dynasty.

I hope this information helps,

Best, Moses 

Validation of death date of Dachau prisoner #holocaust #rabbinic

Moses Jefferson

I’m researching a Great-Grandfather Rabbi Josef Heimlich from Miskolc, who was killed by the Nazis during the war. What bothers me is that I’ve come across conflicting sources of his death date. The exact is really important for our family so we can properly honour his Yahrzeit.

What I’ve learned from the JGen Holocaust database:
- Prisoner #112375 arrived in Dachau 29 Sep 1944 from Auschwitz 
- He died (probably in Dachau) 28 Dec 1944

What I’ve learned from an inmates who survived the war:
- He was deported on Rosh Hashana (Sep 1944) from Auschwitz
- During the winter of 1944 he was in SS-Arbeitslager-Kaufbeuren (a Dachau sub-camp) 
- He died there on 25 Dec 1944 and was buried in a mass-grave at a nearby forest (it exist today)

Now my questions are;
a) does it make sense that the death was recorded in Dachau given the fact he died elsewhere
b) can I trust the survivors word and consider the German record an error?
c) could it be just a typo on the indexed database on JGen?
And finally is there any way I can view the original record? The JGen reference number is ‘2096/Gl.’, does anyone know what this means?

Best, Moses

Scanning Documents and Photos - personal preferences #general

Dahn Cukier

Hi, I am writing how I handle scans of documents and photos.

Scanner - I use  3-in-1 with 9600x9600 scanner connected to a Windows PC.
Storage - I have 2 external disks of 1 terra each for backups

Preparation, format the disks (not quick), this will require a long time, but if
the format does not complete in 24 hours, the device is probably not working

Scanner: I use software that permits scanning in various formats, I use PDF for
multipage documents and JPG for photos. I may use PNG in the future, but haven't
decided yet.

Scan at the highest resolution even though it will require a longer time. I have photos
that were scanned at default resolution and many faces cannot be identified when cropped.
The person can be identified, but if I want to crop the face, it is a blur.

My scanner is a Canon and I use Canon IJ scan utility.

I use IRFANVIEW software (Windows only), a free software to edit the photos and
edit the EXIF data, EXIF is data embedded in the photo. The software
has many options and can also move/copy photos to various folders/directories.

If there is writing on the back of a photo, I scan that also and rename the photo
the same as the face+"back" (the back of img0001.jpg is img0001back.jpg).

Documents I scan in PDF format and if multipage  I scan the document as a
multipage document. I scanned each of my passports to one file each.
Since the genealogy software I use (Brother's Keeper) can link with  many
documents, I scan everything - birth certificates, military records, school
records, etc. the future generations may find something of interest..

Crop and edit: I suggest copy the original file and work on the copied

-------------- Just something I added but is not publicly available.
Sorting  the photos. I began in 1990's and then there were very few apps
to organize photos. I have seen various apps on other computers when the
owner wants to send me a collection, but cannot find the photos. I find
them using CMD and then export the photos. Many apps I have seen
index the photo, but requires upkeep. I wrote my own using an external index file
that can be easily edited and photos can be placed in more than one
"album". Since I do not do maintain software and wrote it for myself in
REXX/Regina (Windows), I am willing to send the collection of
programs to anyone, but with very very limited documentation.

Re: Ukraine plans to sell Jewish cemeteries and massacre sites #ukraine

Steven Turner

I have been following this issue from the facebook posts of a Jewish activist in Lviv name Meylakh Sheyket. He has been protesting this action by the parliament. It's a little unclear to me because many of his posts are in Ukrainian and I use google translate but it appears that this bill has not been signed yet and not in force. This is one of his posts.

Meylakh Sheykhet two parliaments deputies temporarily blocked signing the bill to open the land market, will it work for the future is unknown. More efforts needed...

This is definitely something we have to stay on top of.

Shabbat shalom.

Steven Turner

Re: Trying to get a picture of a gravestone in Shalom Memorial Park Cemetery, Chicago area #usa

Barbara Kenzer

Hello Roy
I have not forgotten to get the pictures you wanted. Because of the Covid-19 the office is closed and we are on a stay at home order as most of us are. As soon as I can I will go to Shalom Memorial. 
Barbara Kenzer 
Buffalo Grove, IL 

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 8:50 PM Chicago Bubby <cmeyssub@...> wrote:
If you call the cemetery a day or two before you are coming and give them the grave information, they will clear the snow from the grave and from path to it from the road. Obviously this only helps if it doesn't snow in the interim. Also, be aware that many of the stones do not contain much information, often just English name and birth year and death year.



Re: identify #cemetery from statues in photo? #romania

V Silver

Thank you so much for such a deep analysis.
I did get the answer from someone. Indeed, not a cemetery at all.
The Jewish Palestine Pavilion at the 1939 Worlds Fair at Flushing Meadows-Corona, NY

Since I likely have family buried in one of the cemeteries mentioned, I would be very interested in having the name of your contact and for Mr. Iordache in Botosani.
Is it possible to search Romanian cemetery records online or by email? (I assume not in English). As I'm new to these pages, I haven't yet researched this topic which is surely covered in depth.
Thank you again for your kind help.
Valerie Silver

Re: Name IDA #names

Carl Kaplan

In regards to my previous post, it has now been pointed out through a couple of private messages that names were never changed at Ellis Island. That had always been the family story, so I very much appreciate the information, and will be happily informing my family about this. Thanks again.

Seeking Additional Information on Daughters of Ida & Harry Gorelick #usa #belarus


"I have been researching my family's genealogy since the 1980's. My father Louis (Leo) Lurie was one of 8 siblings from Bobruisk which is now in Belarus.  His 3 oldest siblings were brought to the U.S. by an  aunt and uncle.
The names of this aunt and uncle are: Harry and Ida Soloff Gorelick. Ida was a sister to my paternal grandmother, Matleh Lurie.  Ida and Matleh also had a brother, Jacob Isaac.  Their family name was Solovieff in Bobruisk or Soloff (in the U.S. changed by Jacob Isaac's children.)

The three siblings arrived in the U.S. in Sept. 1912.  They went to Harry and Ida's apartment at 391 E.162 Street, Bronx, NY.  They worked for Harry, who had a paint store and hired out painters.  These male siblings were hired as painters.  From what I have been told,there was some type of disagreement between Harry and the siblings and they left NY and went to New Haven, CT.  From that point on there was no communication between Harry and Ida and the siblings, nor from the other 5 siblings who arrived in the U.S. in 1923.

Because of the non-communication with that part of the family, the only information I have came from what I found online from census records.  I know that Harry and Ida had 4 daughters: Rose born 1904 in Moscow, Fanny born 1908 in NY,NY, Lillian born in 1909 born in NY,NY and Dora born 1911 in NY,NY."  

After posting the above information on the Jewish Genealogy Portal on Facebook, I received a Facebook response from a Richard M. who was quite helpful. He gave me the names of the husbands of two of the daughters.
Frances (Fanny) Gorelick married Abraham Kutner and Lillian Gorelick married Mack Hersch.

I was able to locate additional information on Abraham and Frances Kutner.  Abraham was previously married and had a daughter born 1934-1935.  The couple had one son, born in 1938.

I am  still looking for any information on the two remaining daughters of Harry and Ida: Rose and Dora Gorelick, ie. marriage,children, death records.
I am also looking for the names of the children of Abraham and Frances Kutner and any of their  descendants.
as well as any children of Lillian and Mack Hersch and their descendants.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Searching:  Lurie& Soloff from Bobruisk, and Yaffe and Elovich,Abramovich in Novogroduk, Lubtch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

Mukacheve Marriage Records Indexed #ukraine

Banai Lynn Feldstein

The JGIRC is pleased to announce that we have indexed over 3,700
Mukacheve marriage records.

Visit our web site to learn more about the collection.

The records can be searched on the GeneaSearch web site

Stay tuned as birth and deaths will follow soon. Over 20,000 more
Mukacheve records have already been indexed and are being processed
to be placed online.

Banai Lynn Feldstein, Founder
Jewish Genealogy Indexing and Research Collective

Re: Translation from German #translation #germany

Corinna Woehrl

Hello Peter,

below please find the translation of the death certificate of Johanna Kaul, nee Zoellner.

May I ask to continue using the fantastic ViewMate-tool for such questions, as it is far easier to discuss or correct translations of documents there. Also, it is possible to upload documents in good quality - I couldn't enlarge the posted document but found it on Ancestry.

Regards from Germany, Corinna

Record book C (second copy of book A, the original)

Nr. 194
Berlin, January 1883

The following person, legitimized by the (medical) death-certificate, appeared today in front of the registrar
Julius Kaul, merchant
residing in Berlin-Prenzlauer Stern 31, and reported that

Johanna Kaul, nee Zoellner seventy-eight years old, of Jewish faith,
residing in Berlin, with him,
born in Posen, was married to the merchant Elias Kaul, deceased there,

Daughter of merchant Leib Levi Zoellner and his wife Lea nee Seelig, both deceased in Posen.
Passed away in Berlin - Prenzlauer Stern 31 at his home
on January the 29th in 1883 in the morning at 11 o'clock

Read, approved and signed
The Registrar [signature of registrar]

Re: Translation from German #translation #germany

Corinna Woehrl

Hello Peter and listreaders,

in order to avoid duplication of efforts, just the short information that I am working on the document

Corinna (Woehrl), Germany

moderated Re: "Unorthodox" - 2015 film about a college year spent in Israel and another, 2020 a wife, 19, flees to Berlin from Satmar Williamsburg #israel #germany #usa

sharon yampell

I read that book and it was discovered to possibly be a hoax; bool still made for good reading before I had heard about it possibly being a hoax…there is also presumably  a second book!


Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, NJ USA



From: JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 2:51 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [] "Unorthodox" - 2015 film about a college year spent in Israel #israel and another, 2020 a wife, 19, flees to Berlin from Satmar Williamsburg #germany #usa


New York Times - March 31, 2020


How ‘Unorthodox’ Captured One Woman’s Flight From Hasidic Brooklyn

Deborah Feldman left her ultra-Orthodox Jewish community for a new life in Berlin. She talked about what it has been like having her autobiography adapted for Netflix.


Selling of Ukrainian Jewish Cemeteries and Mass Graves - Updated #ukraine

Tony Hausner

Yesterday I posted the following: I have been informed by folks in Ukraine that the Parliamnet has just approved the following. To sell the land on which Jewish cemeteries and the mass grave massacre sites are located.  At the following link are 3 files: 1) a letter shared with me, 2) a posting on facebook, and 3) U.S. PUBLIC LAW 113–154—passed in AUG. 8, 2014 that might be relevant.

I would appreciate any advice and assistance on this. 

I have since added additional files to the above folder:
I am still awaiting more definitive information on the actions that the Ukranian Parliament and the President have taken.  If any of you have documents or newspaper articles on this issue, that would be appreciated.  

Several of you have contacted me and I appreciate that help.   

Tony Hausner Silver Spring, MD 20901 301--587-6943 (primary email address: thausner@...)
Tony Hausner

Translation Request Please, MOLDOVAN #romania #ukraine #bessarabia

Nomi Waksberg

Hope this finds you all well.
I accidentally came across a legal document which includes a family name. Hopefully a translation will provide a clue or direction
as to what may have happened to him. It is dated 1942.
The document is posted on VIEWMATE, ID 79168.
From the Main VIEWMATE page, please select IMAGE GALLERY.
Since this is a recent entry it is found on the top few rows.
Click on the image and then ADD RESPONSE.
There is a Romanian stamp on this document, so initially I thought it was in Romanian.
I have since learned that the language is Moldovan and that Moldovia is sandwiched in between
Ukraine and Romania, so I've used various tags that may apply. There is no tag at this time for Moldova.
Thanks in advance for your assistance or direction on this document:
What type of document.
All parties named.
I tried google translate without luck. The type is not sufficiently clear for me to guess letters in a language I'm totally unfamiliar with.
Whatever light you can shed on this is appreciated very much.
(FIszenfeld is one of my prime family names)
Thank you much.
Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg

Translation from German #translation #germany


I would greatly appreciate a translation of this document written in German script. It involves Julius and Johanna KAUL.
Thank you, Peter Zassenhaus ZOLL.

Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Barbara Stack

Hello everyone,
I suggest photos be scanned at at least 2400 dpi; studio photos can yield additional detail  and good cropping of individuals) up to 3,600, and this includes those tiny arcade photos, which are surprisingly good. While the person who scans may not treat the photo to digital restoration, a high resolution scan allows someone to do it in the future. And don’t forget, in the future people are likely to be viewing your photos on large, wall-sized screens.
The most important search environment in anyone’s life is one’s own hard drive. Photo captioning is essential to findability, and might include date (I use yyyy mm-dd), name(s) of individuals, location, and photographer name or source of photo. Likewise the naming and arrangement of nested folders can be important. . I often include a test document in the folder with details such as that this is cousin Joe’s album and the captions appear to be his own or his father’s, etc.
Finally, where the reverse side of a photo has captioning, you should also scan this, perhaps at a lower resolution like 600 dpi, and give it the same title as the photo with an additional word like “reverse.” Note also that any captioning on the face of the photo, as in the margins, is extremely important and the full print should be scanned—you can crop later
People have always shared photos and I have reunited family portraits kept by cousins in Russia and the US; different shots of the same reunion groups kept by different descendants; and found a photo of my grandmother unknown to our branch in a cousin’s album.
Of course keep the photos, in clean, archival storage of some sort with notes about sources and intermediate sources, and mention who you are and what you did.
Back up is meant to mitigate many different sorts of risks. Storage is increasingly affordable. One of my backups is a hard drive at my sister’s home half a continent away. Sharing photo scans is also a form of back up.
I just scanned my mother’s diary form 1933-37 and then spent a month preparing month-by-month pdfs.
Just do it!
Barbara Toby Stack
Berkeley, CA
Altstein, Altsztejn, Oldstein: Nowy Dwor, Mlawa, Poland, UK
Chsunstofsky, Chrzadowski: Brzeziny, Kikol, Lipno Poland
Resnick: Volhynia, Ukraine
Schleger: Lokachi, Ukraine
Stachowitz: USA
Stasiowich: Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland
Thorner: Plock, Poland
Torunczyk: Warszawa, Poland
Yecht: Lokachi, Ukraine
Zlotnick: Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland


moderated Re: "Unorthodox" - 2015 film about a college year spent in Israel and another, 2020 a wife, 19, flees to Berlin from Satmar Williamsburg #israel #germany #usa

JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator

New York Times - March 31, 2020


How ‘Unorthodox’ Captured One Woman’s Flight From Hasidic Brooklyn

Deborah Feldman left her ultra-Orthodox Jewish community for a new life in Berlin. She talked about what it has been like having her autobiography adapted for Netflix.

Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Victoria Fisch

Jeremy Frankel and I find that it's more efficient to take digital photographs of documents and old photos. You will wind up with a higher resolution file, and you can line up all your documents / photos in good light and get to work. You need a steady hand, but we like the results better than scanning and it's simpler. We do this all the time when we are conserving records for clients.

You can also use DropBox to share photos with family, and to store large sized photo files in the cloud. For our clients we simply store the images in a file folder with a person's name, and file that within another folder for that particular clan surname. Then the computer lines up everything alphabetically. This way it is easy to identify and retrieve photos you might want to use in family narratives.

Best regards from hunkered down northern California.
Victoria Fisch

Re: Ukraine plans to sell Jewish cemeteries and massacre sites #ukraine

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt

The two Google Drive documents are not hyperlinked. Please re-post.

Local municipalities have been selling these Jewish cemetery and mass grave properties for years. What are the ramifications of this current announcement? For example, is it formally allowing/encouraging local municipalities or the national government to sell, or mandating that they will sell?

Can you - or a Ukrainian language reader on this thread - please direct us to the current Ukraine Parliament announcement? 

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
Erie, Colorado

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