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This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
#yizkorbooks
#poland
Bruce Drake
“The epidemic was halted thanks to the supervisory efforts of the authorities over hygiene and meticulous cleanliness, as well as to the fact that no person was permitted to travel from city to city without an examination and a shot against disease.” How familiar does this sound now? This excerpt from the Yizkor book of Zawiercie, Poland goes beyond the title of the chapter, “The Sanitation Situation in the City.” Sanitation was an obvious place for the excerpt to start given that poorer people did not have he kind of access to good hygiene practices as the well-off, and that sewage often poured in the streets. But the chapter goes on to describe how women in childbirth were cared for (“It was a fact that a Jewish woman never gave birth in a hospital”), remedies against the “evil eye” and the power of incantations.
URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2944104735611662?__tn__=K-R Bruce Drake Silver Spring MD
Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK Towns: Kovel, Wojnilow
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Re: Prohibition Bootleggers and Sacramental Wine photo
#usa
Bruce Drake
You can find the photo in this New York Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/books/review/jews-and-booze-becoming-american-in-the-age-of-prohibition-by-marni-davis-book-review.html
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Re: Prohibition Bootleggers and Sacramental Wine photo
#usa
Bruce Drake
It's in the digitized New York Public Library collection. I wish I could remember the search terms I used to find it, but it was long ago.
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Re: identify cemetery from statues in photo?
#romania
Max Heffler
Dan Jurca: Dan_j777@...
From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of V Silver via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 8:20 PM To: main@... Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] identify #cemetery from statues in photo? #romania
Max,
-- Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project: www.texsys.com/websites.html
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Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs
#general
N. Summers
Hi Victoria,
Thank you for this tip about photographing old photos. I have one or two that are quite fragile, and your suggestions will be particularly helpful for these. Now if I can just pry the camera out of my hubby's hands... Nancy S Maryland, USA
FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus) LISS/ALPER, LEAF/LIFSCHITZ ( Motol, Russian Empire/Belarus; Rechitsa, Belarus)
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Re: Finding family in Hungary
#hungary
Judy Petersen
There are many resources for researching Hungary. But you need to provide more information in order for us to direct you to the appropriate resources.
What resources have you already consulted? Have you searched on JewishGen? Their Hungary database is quite extensive. Do you know what towns your family is from? What are your goals? Are you trying to trace linearly back in time, or are you looking at side branches as well? Have you registered your names and towns on the JGFF (JewishGen Family Finder)? The answers to all of these questions will help us to guide you in your research.
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Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs
#general
N. Summers
Tracy, thank you so very much for this mini-tutorial on how to deal with old photographs. They are precious to me, and have provided valuable info from scrawled notes and dates. Just seeing the original handwriting of my relatives brings tears to my eyes and holding the photos that they had in their hands is priceless.
And now I know how to scan them to improve my ability to enlarge and examine detalils. many thanks Nancy S Maryland, USA
FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus) LISS/ALPER, LEAF/LIFSCHITZ ( Motol, Russian Empire/Belarus; Rechitsa, Belarus)
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HELEN LOWEY and ZIEGLER-DANNHIRSCH
#general
Carol Jean Weightman
I am looking for descendants of Sabina DANNHIRSCH-ZIEGLER or ZIEGLER-DANNHIRSCH, born in Lviv in 1882.
Sabina’s name at birth was Szajndel Lea Prager. Helen Lowey of Henley Road, New York 11432, submitted a Yad Vashem Testimony in 1976 for her “former mother-in-law”. Helen wrote that Sabina was married to Emanuel. Sabina probably had a son who was married to Helen. Sabina may have lived in Vienna for a while. There is a photo of her signed "1929, Wien”. I have not been able to find any further information on this family, either in Vienna or in New York. Thank you for any help you can offer. Carol Jean
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Elena Bazes
The Israel Genealogy Research Associations (IGRA) has begun a free “Show & Tell with IGRA” ZOOM series. Our first session had 61 participants from four countries. Each session of “Show & Tell with IGRA” demonstrates a different topic. Some will be connected specifically to IGRA, while others will demonstrate how to use other websites or applications – hands on topics you can immediately make use of on your own. Join us for our second “Show and Tell” session on April 6. The session will be dedicated to answering your questions regarding the IGRA website. Questions should be sent in prior to the meeting to webinars@.... If there is time after these questions have been answered, questions will be taken during the live broadcast. The session will take place on April 6 at 9 pm Israel time (2 pm EDT, 11 am PDT) and will be approximately 30-40 minutes. There is no need to register in advance. “Show & Tell with IGRA” will be open to those who connect to ZOOM with the following meeting code.
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/220076542 We will do our best to record these sessions and make them available on our website. Sessions in English will take place weekly on Mondays (but not on a holiday). The same topic will take place in Hebrew on Wednesday evenings 21:00 Israel time. There will be no Hebrew session this week due to the Passover holiday. IGRA wishes you a Happy and Healthy Passover. Elena Biegel Bazes IGRA Publicity Chair
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Re: Bakalarzewo
#poland
Jill Whitehead
The answer as always is to look at JRI Poland website, Litvak SIG website or to look at back copies of Landsmen, the former journal of Suwalki Lomza Interest Group, if your library has this. I visited Bakalarzewo in 2000.
Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK
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Re: Translation from German
#translation
#germany
Rodney Eisfelder
Peter,
Please make a higher resolution scan and post to Viewmate. See: https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ What you have posted here is highly compressed and low resolution. Rodney Eisfelder Melbourne, Australia
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Re: Chasidei Aish V'Or
#rabbinic
Moses Jefferson
Hi,
They were a group of pious, well learned Chasidim who most of them lived or learned in the Hungarian Shtetel Nyírvasvári (Oshvar in Yiddish). They were know for their tremendous piety an were know to be well versed in the Kabalistic works of Rabbi Issac Luria (the Arizal) (See Sefer Heichal Habracha from Rabbi Issac of Komarno parashat Matos) Thus they were called Chasidei Aish V’oR (a wordplay based on the name of the Shtetel) literally meaning Fire and Light (translation from Hebrew). A big influencer of the group was Rabbi Yitzchak Issac Taub of the Kaliv dynasty. I hope this information helps, Best, Moses
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Validation of death date of Dachau prisoner
#holocaust
#rabbinic
Moses Jefferson
I’m researching a Great-Grandfather Rabbi Josef Heimlich from Miskolc, who was killed by the Nazis during the war. What bothers me is that I’ve come across conflicting sources of his death date. The exact is really important for our family so we can properly honour his Yahrzeit.
What I’ve learned from the JGen Holocaust database: - Prisoner #112375 arrived in Dachau 29 Sep 1944 from Auschwitz - He died (probably in Dachau) 28 Dec 1944 What I’ve learned from an inmates who survived the war: - He was deported on Rosh Hashana (Sep 1944) from Auschwitz - During the winter of 1944 he was in SS-Arbeitslager-Kaufbeuren (a Dachau sub-camp) - He died there on 25 Dec 1944 and was buried in a mass-grave at a nearby forest (it exist today) Now my questions are; a) does it make sense that the death was recorded in Dachau given the fact he died elsewhere b) can I trust the survivors word and consider the German record an error? c) could it be just a typo on the indexed database on JGen? And finally is there any way I can view the original record? The JGen reference number is ‘2096/Gl.’, does anyone know what this means? Best, Moses
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Scanning Documents and Photos - personal preferences
#general
Dahn Cukier
Hi, I am writing how I handle scans of documents and photos.
Hardware: Scanner - I use 3-in-1 with 9600x9600 scanner connected to a Windows PC. Storage - I have 2 external disks of 1 terra each for backups Preparation, format the disks (not quick), this will require a long time, but if the format does not complete in 24 hours, the device is probably not working Scanner: I use software that permits scanning in various formats, I use PDF for multipage documents and JPG for photos. I may use PNG in the future, but haven't decided yet. Scan at the highest resolution even though it will require a longer time. I have photos that were scanned at default resolution and many faces cannot be identified when cropped. The person can be identified, but if I want to crop the face, it is a blur. Software: My scanner is a Canon and I use Canon IJ scan utility. I use IRFANVIEW software (Windows only), a free software to edit the photos and edit the EXIF data, EXIF is data embedded in the photo. The software has many options and can also move/copy photos to various folders/directories. If there is writing on the back of a photo, I scan that also and rename the photo the same as the face+"back" (the back of img0001.jpg is img0001back.jpg). Documents I scan in PDF format and if multipage I scan the document as a multipage document. I scanned each of my passports to one file each. Since the genealogy software I use (Brother's Keeper) can link with many documents, I scan everything - birth certificates, military records, school records, etc. the future generations may find something of interest.. Crop and edit: I suggest copy the original file and work on the copied file. -------------- Just something I added but is not publicly available. Sorting the photos. I began in 1990's and then there were very few apps to organize photos. I have seen various apps on other computers when the owner wants to send me a collection, but cannot find the photos. I find them using CMD and then export the photos. Many apps I have seen index the photo, but requires upkeep. I wrote my own using an external index file that can be easily edited and photos can be placed in more than one "album". Since I do not do maintain software and wrote it for myself in REXX/Regina (Windows), I am willing to send the collection of programs to anyone, but with very very limited documentation.
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Re: Ukraine plans to sell Jewish cemeteries and massacre sites
#ukraine
I have been following this issue from the facebook posts of a Jewish activist in Lviv name Meylakh Sheyket. He has been protesting this action by the parliament. It's a little unclear to me because many of his posts are in Ukrainian and I use google translate but it appears that this bill has not been signed yet and not in force. This is one of his posts.
Meylakh Sheykhet two parliaments deputies temporarily blocked signing the bill to open the land market, will it work for the future is unknown. More efforts needed... This is definitely something we have to stay on top of. Shabbat shalom. Steven Turner ssturner@...
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Re: Trying to get a picture of a gravestone in Shalom Memorial Park Cemetery, Chicago area
#usa
Barbara Kenzer
Hello Roy
I have not forgotten to get the pictures you wanted. Because of the Covid-19 the office is closed and we are on a stay at home order as most of us are. As soon as I can I will go to Shalom Memorial.
Barbara Kenzer
Buffalo Grove, IL
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 8:50 PM Chicago Bubby <cmeyssub@...> wrote:
If you call the cemetery a day or two before you are coming and give them the grave information, they will clear the snow from the grave and from path to it from the road. Obviously this only helps if it doesn't snow in the interim. Also, be aware that many of the stones do not contain much information, often just English name and birth year and death year.
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Re: identify #cemetery from statues in photo?
#romania
V Silver
Max,
Thank you so much for such a deep analysis. I did get the answer from someone. Indeed, not a cemetery at all. The Jewish Palestine Pavilion at the 1939 Worlds Fair at Flushing Meadows-Corona, NY https://www.1939nyworldsfair.com/worlds_fair/wf_tour/zone-2/jewish_palistine.htm Since I likely have family buried in one of the cemeteries mentioned, I would be very interested in having the name of your contact and for Mr. Iordache in Botosani. Is it possible to search Romanian cemetery records online or by email? (I assume not in English). As I'm new to these pages, I haven't yet researched this topic which is surely covered in depth. Thank you again for your kind help. -- Valerie Silver
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Re: Name IDA
#names
In regards to my previous post, it has now been pointed out through a couple of private messages that names were never changed at Ellis Island. That had always been the family story, so I very much appreciate the information, and will be happily informing my family about this. Thanks again.
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HLurie
"I have been researching my family's genealogy since the 1980's. My father Louis (Leo) Lurie was one of 8 siblings from Bobruisk which is now in Belarus. His 3 oldest siblings were brought to the U.S. by an aunt and uncle.
The names of this aunt and uncle are: Harry and Ida Soloff Gorelick. Ida was a sister to my paternal grandmother, Matleh Lurie. Ida and Matleh also had a brother, Jacob Isaac. Their family name was Solovieff in Bobruisk or Soloff (in the U.S. changed by Jacob Isaac's children.) The three siblings arrived in the U.S. in Sept. 1912. They went to Harry and Ida's apartment at 391 E.162 Street, Bronx, NY. They worked for Harry, who had a paint store and hired out painters. These male siblings were hired as painters. From what I have been told,there was some type of disagreement between Harry and the siblings and they left NY and went to New Haven, CT. From that point on there was no communication between Harry and Ida and the siblings, nor from the other 5 siblings who arrived in the U.S. in 1923. Because of the non-communication with that part of the family, the only information I have came from what I found online from census records. I know that Harry and Ida had 4 daughters: Rose born 1904 in Moscow, Fanny born 1908 in NY,NY, Lillian born in 1909 born in NY,NY and Dora born 1911 in NY,NY." After posting the above information on the Jewish Genealogy Portal on Facebook, I received a Facebook response from a Richard M. who was quite helpful. He gave me the names of the husbands of two of the daughters. Frances (Fanny) Gorelick married Abraham Kutner and Lillian Gorelick married Mack Hersch. I was able to locate additional information on Abraham and Frances Kutner. Abraham was previously married and had a daughter born 1934-1935. The couple had one son, born in 1938. I am still looking for any information on the two remaining daughters of Harry and Ida: Rose and Dora Gorelick, ie. marriage,children, death records. I am also looking for the names of the children of Abraham and Frances Kutner and any of their descendants. as well as any children of Lillian and Mack Hersch and their descendants. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Searching: Lurie& Soloff from Bobruisk, and Yaffe and Elovich,Abramovich in Novogroduk, Lubtch
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Mukacheve Marriage Records Indexed
#ukraine
Banai Lynn Feldstein
The JGIRC is pleased to announce that we have indexed over 3,700
Mukacheve marriage records. Visit our web site to learn more about the collection. http://jgirc.org/2020/03/24/mukacheve-marriage-records/ The records can be searched on the GeneaSearch web site https://geneasearch.net/ Stay tuned as birth and deaths will follow soon. Over 20,000 more Mukacheve records have already been indexed and are being processed to be placed online. --------------------------------------------- Banai Lynn Feldstein, Founder Jewish Genealogy Indexing and Research Collective http://jgirc.org/
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