Origin of the name Liss #names

N. Summers

Does anyone have any thoughts on the origins of the surname Liss/Lyss? When I try to search for passenger records, the only suggestions I get are Scandinavian names. My relatives came from Motol, not far from MInsk. ( think Motol was Chaim Weitzman's home town, and I'm sure everyone from the town claims to have known him or his family).

When the family came to New York, most of them changed their name to Alper (for good luck, as they knew someone by that name who was prosperous).

thank you,

Nancy S

Maryland, USA



LISS/ALPER, LEAF/LIFSCHITZ ( Motol, Russian Empire/Belarus; Rechitsa, Belarus)

Re: Scanning Documents and Photos - personal preferences #general


I have plastic photo storage rectangles that allow me to store a lot of photos standing up, which is convenient for flipping through them. The rectangles can be stacked on a shelf, taking relatively little space. I believe in keeping them after scanning, preferably in an acid-free environment.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Hebrew Book printed in Rodelhem #germany


Does anyone have any information on this printed in Rodelhem.

Re: Finding family in Hungary #hungary

Valentin Lupu

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:42 PM, <zaida67@...> wrote:
 Try  FamilySearch . They have online Jewish manuscripts for Bokony (1852-1885, 1870-1885).  These books are not indexed, therefore it is not an easy task to search page by page.

Valentin Lupu

Re: This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland

Jill Whitehead

In the 19th century there were regular outbreaks of Cholera at European ports. In 1892 there was a major one in Hamburg. In 2012 my colleague Howard Wolinsky of Chicago made a programme for the BBC on how his ancestor had travelled in 1892 from Kovno to Hamburg, and from Hamburg to Hull, Hull to Liverpool, and Liverpool to Boston. His claim to fame was that he sailed from Hamburg to Hull on the very last day Hamburg was open - the next day it closed due to the Cholera epidemic, and remained closed for some months. At the Hull end this had an impact on my ancestors, whose sons made extra pennies by directing new arrivals to shelters and the railway station.

It was not only Cholera, but Typhoid,  that also had an impact at around the same time. My grandfather's elder sister died of typhoid in 1894 in North Wales - she was only 26. She and her husband and my grandfather had been sent there from Liverpool by my great grandfather to offer financial services to local farmers. There were no other Jewish people in the area, so they probably would not have eaten kosher meat - infected meat was a source of Typhoid. My great grandparents ended up caring for Leah's three childen, one of whom was aged only one year old. Her husband remarried and emigrated to Chicago a few years later, leaving his children behind (though two of them later joined him in USA as adults).

So our ancestors have long had to battle with outbreaks of serious disease.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

moderated Re: "Unorthodox" - 2015 film about a college year spent in Israel and another, 2020 a wife, 19, flees to Berlin from Satmar Williamsburg #israel #germany #usa

Karen Lukeman

I haven't watched Unorthodox on Netflix, but here is an article which may be of interest.
Karen Calmon Lukeman
KALMANOWITZ (Lyubcha and towns near Grodno, Vilna and Minsk)
GOLDSMITH (Bakshty and Ivje)
NASSER (Damascus)
BENBAJI (Damascus)
BALLAS (Damascus)

Re: This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland

David Cherson

I may be mistaken (and you can correct me if I am wrong} but during the Black Plague fewer Jews than gentiles died and that was due to the fact of bathing in the Mikveh.    

Re: HAASE Family of Frankfurt #germany #israel #holocaust

David Lewin

At 18:36 03/04/2020, Carol Jean Weightman via wrote:
I am looking for information on the children of Josef and Felicia HAASE.

Son Peter Joachim was born on 3 August 1922 in Frankfurt. Peter had to do forced labour at the Jüdisches Forsteinsatzlager Schönfelde (Jewish forest work camp) in Brandenburg. On 1 November 1941, he was deported to the Lodz ghetto and from there on 8 April 1942 to a forced labour camp in Posen (Poznan). His fate is uncertain: some documents say he was drowned on the way to Palestine when the refugee ship was sunk by the British. Perhaps he had been liberated and had tried to reach Israel on an illegal immigrant ship. If Peter was able to get to Israel, he may have descendants.

Daughter Ruth was born on 20 June 1915 in Fulda. Ruth may have married someone with surname SCHWERINER and immigrated to Brazil. She is thought to have died in Sao Paulo in 1937. I cannot find Brazilian documents that confirm this. I cannot find a record in Brazil or in Germany to confirm the marriage.

If anyone knows what happened to Peter Joachim and to Ruth, please contact me.

Thank you, Carol
Carol Jean Weightman <c.j.weightman@...>

Are you able to extract any more information from what you have ?

I have looked through a large Israel database and cannot identify the names / facts you give

Aming much else  has a lot of people wirthe the HAASE surname - it is in Hebrew.  Peter is not, of course a Hebrew name not is

As for immigrant ships which were lost there were:

Nov 1940 3 large immigrant ships caught : Milos, Pacific and Atlantic with 3500 immigrants from Germany Austria and Czechoslovakia.  1800 transferred to the Patria in Haifa Harbour to be sent to Mauritius.   Hagana decided to prevent sailing but ignorance caused a disaster: 216 drowned

Dec 1940 "Salvador" sunk in the Dardanels with 352 Bulgarians. 239 drowned of them 66 children

1943  "Lili" was sunk by a British submarine close to Acre ( Akko) The PalYam crew downed

1944 A ship named Mafkura  sailed from Romania and was torpedoed by a submarine in the Black Sea.  390 drowned, only 5 rescued

3 further ships  Gyppo, Rim and Panc'o sunk - the people were rescued and imprisoned in British camps in the British Colonies

26 Nov 1946 the ship Ra'fi'ach ( formerly the Athina, built in 1893) was sunk,  8 immigrants drowned in the Island of Sirina,  785 passengers from Yugoslavia, Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria were saved and imprisoned in Cyprus

Be well

David Lewin

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Re: Ida ROSENBAUM FISCHER of Witten Germany #germany


attached the name of a book about Witten, years ago they sent me some pages. I suppose you can find it in a public library
To my surprise there was a page with some Rosenbaum
Shlomo Melchior

Re: Yiddish or Hebrew name for IDA #belarus #names

Alice Plebuch

My grandmother, Ida KOT, appeared as Slate  (Zlata) Kott on the ship’s manifest. She was from Ziezmariai, Lithuania. Although I never found Zlata in the Revision lists, she is probably the daughter listed as Ides.

Alice Plebuch
Vancouver, WA


Re: Scanning Documents and Photos - personal preferences #general


For what it's worth, I scan photos at 300 dpi on the understanding that higher resolution doesn't help a great deal. Like others, I use .tif, which is lossless. (And, in any case, you can always resave a .tif as a .jpg if you're concerned about the larger file size and want to share with others.)

I use a program called Zoner for organizing everything, and I've found it very successful. Among other things, it has an option for saving a text description alongside the photo. It's invisible except through the apparatus of the software, but it's there in any case. That is, I can do a regular text search for a term like "Miller," and anyone I have tagged with Miller will come up even through my conventional computer operating system search.

Good luck, 

labeling paper photographs

Myra Waddell

The best way to do this, as I was told many years ago is to write the
names on the back, using a soft pencil - 5B or 6B.

Myra Waddell.  South Australia.

BORKOVSKY - Lomza Gubernia, Poland; Irkutsk, Siberia; Hailar and Harbin,
China; Israel.
BORZIANSKY - Kamyanets-Podolskiy and Vinnitsa, Ukraine.
GOLDENBERG - Bucharest, Romania; Paris, France. England.
HOFFMAN - Braila and Bucharest, Romania.
UZNER/HAUSNER/OSNER/POSNER - Chotyn and Kishinev, Bessarabia/Romania.

Re: JewishGen Education DNA II class April 26-May 16 #dna

L Fagan

I wanted to clarify another question that came in about the DNA II course.  I referred to autosomal DNA testing in the brief description of the course.   The DNA tests that you see advertised by the various companies are testing the autosomal DNA and you will have the information needed for this course.  There are more specialized tests that are not a prerequisite for this course. Those additional tests look at the paternal line (Y chromosome analysis) or the maternal line (Mitochondrial DNA).  We will discuss those tests and how to interpret the results, but the main focus is on the standard (autosomal) DNA tests offered by all of the companies.

Thank you,
   Larry Fagan

Re: Scanning Documents and Photos - personal preferences #general

Dahn Cukier

Bob, Eva, Ari

I keep the originals that I have been given or are mine.
I return borrowed photos. Borrowed photos are not sually removed
from albums, especially old ones. I have begun testing taking
photos with a smartphone, but I want to buy/build a stand
for the phone.

Why not TIF. My first scanner was an HP5300C model C7690A. It was
purchased before 1994 (It was brought from the US before my last
visit in 1994), at that time TIF was not popular.

I work on copies of the original scans. If you are not computer literate,
ask someone to setup a folder/directory to hold originals and work
only on copies.

Backup both the originals and any work you have done, such as
crop,ping. I crop for including a person's face in Brother's Keeper
documents. If the original scan was received and I did not have
the original, a person can be identified by body build, haircut, and
who else in the photo, but the face is a blur.

BACKUP. Be sure to backup and disconnect the backup device when not
in use. A disconnected device cannot be encrypted with ransomeware.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Friday, April 3, 2020, 05:55:46 PM GMT+3, Bob Friedman <rjf@...> wrote:


Why scan to jpg or png, both lossy formats, rather than tif, which is lossless? Every edit, including cropping, degrades the quality of jpg and png images, defeating the purpose of scanning at the highest resolution. 

I also use Irfanview and it works just as well for tif images as it does for jpgs.  Generally speaking, I scan at 300 dpi and faces usually come out fine in crops and enlargements.  If necessary, I re-scan at 400 or 600 dpi.  Eventually I find there is a point of diminishing returns, where higher resolutions create images that are marginally better and don't justify the ever larger file sizes.
Bob Friedman
Brooklyn, NY

Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Alberto Guido Chester

I wish to thank all and every one of the kind Jewishgenners who provided different ideas, commnents, technical suggestions, etc. to my question.
Sorry for not mentioning each person individually.
The suggestions were so wide, ample and diverse (and sometimes contradictory) that I do not think it would be fair on my part to try to summarize them.
I encourage interested persons to view the thread and draw your own conclusions.
However, there is ONE thing which I have learned and would like to share more than any other: write down who is in each picture NOW, dont wait. 
Thanks again and STAY AT HOME !
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Re: Finding family in Hungary #hungary


All  Iknow is they came from Kaley (Bokony)

Taub or Bihari #hungary


looking for any Family Taub in or Bihari in  Hungary


moderated Re: "Unorthodox" - 2015 film about a college year spent in Israel and another, 2020 a wife, 19, flees to Berlin from Satmar Williamsburg #israel #germany #usa

Elissa Mondschein

When the book was released there was a wholesale assault (not physical!) on her by the Hassidic community.  The book is accurate according to her recollections, meaning it is an autobiography rather than a biography or history.  The community complains that some things could not have happened the way she writes them because of a historical time line, for example,  when certain buildings were constructed.  These types of memory re-arrangements are common in autobiographies, they are fabrications.  There were small changes, more for clarity, but they were not "lies" as the Hasidic community trolls stated.  For example, in the book she mentions that she watched the film, "Trembling Before G-d" and that she saw her mother in the film.  In fact, her mother, who has since come out as a lesbian, is interviewed in the in the extra reel.  I am guessing she changed this, as the "truth" would be needlessly clumsy to explain, and also some people were left out of the story (her younger sister) for privacy reasons. Fredel is correct, the scenes of her life in the community were as portrayed in the book, her live in Berlin are fictional.  Her mom lives in the US and is a science teacher, I believe.

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Re: Validation of death date of Dachau prisoner #holocaust #rabbinic

Julia Trainor

Hello Moses
My grandfather Jakob Schmidl also died in a sub camp of Dachau, having been transported from Auschwitz to Dachau on transport Ek on 28 September 1944.  His transport card, which is indexed on JewishGen's Dachau Concentration Camp Records, gives his death date as 7 February 1945, but that is the date his death was notified to Dachau.   His actual death date was 5 January 1945 in one of the Kaufering sub camps.   I discovered this in a document supplied by the Arolsen Archives.  
With best wishes for your research
Julia Trainor
Canberra, Australia

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