Re: Oshman Moshe from Wilna Lithuania that married Miriam Goldzicher in Warsaw Poland, #lithuania #belarus #poland


You should check out LitvakSIG on Jewish Gen. There is a district called Oshmiany which is part of the wider Vilnius (Wilna) region. That may offer you some clues about the origin of Moshe Oshman. The All Lithuania Database should help too. 

NORDSCHILD Family of Niederwerrn, Bavaria #germany

Ralph Baer

I posted on GerSIG on August 11, 2009 asking about the NORDSCHILD family of Niederwerrn in the present-day Landkreis Schweinfurt in Bavaria. I think that this family has a common male-line ancestry with my ancestral NORDHEIMER family of Memmelsdorf in Unterfranken (Landkreis Haßberge, Bavaria) from when both lived in Nordheim vor der Rhön. I won’t go into detail about that here.


I have been assembling data on the NORDSCHILDs even though I am not sure about the connection.


In the interim, I have found several trees on Ancestry and Geni with contradictory information about some branches of the Niederwerrn NORDSCHILD family. I have written to a couple of the posters, but I have not received any responses. I am writing now to ask if anyone knows if there are vital records on-line for Niederwerrn or if anyone has access to 19th-century records for the town.


Ralph N. Baer     Washington, DC      RalphNBaer@...


Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC

Re: The Cholera Pandemic in Galicia #austria-czech #poland #galicia


Presumably Asriel Geller died of cholera in Galicia in October 1848.
In June 1848 three members of my ancestral Glazer family died within a week of each other in Lipcani, Bessarabia - two brothers and the wife of one of them. 
It was a world-wide pandemic that reached its zenith in 1848, the year of European revolutions.

Re: How to learn if an immigrant received US citizenship? #usa

Stephen Weinstein


No, citizenship is not needed to get a social security number.  Anyone eligible to work in the U.S., including legal permanent residents ("green card" holders) and those who are here on visas would qualify for a social security number.  Some others do as well; I'm not sure of the criteria, but I remember that they get social security cards that say "not valid for employment" or something like that.

2nd Great Grandfather Moshe Mordecai BARNETT found in Kutno, Lodz, Poland #poland

yvonne baines

Dear Geners, 
My DNA result shows my 2nd ggrandfather Moshe Mordecai BARNETT, lived in Kutno, Lodz.  The only information other than that wonderful finding is that His daughter Miriam, my ggreatgrandmother was born maybe there in 1842.  She married Israel (Joseph) COHEN, from Lomza, Poland.   The first source I have for them both is the 1881 Census for England & Wales, Living in Liverpool, England.   Does any of this information 'ring a bell with anyone'.   Does anyone have any BARNETT ancestors from Kutno or surrounding area?
Thank you,
Yvonne Tamtom

Re: New Jersey Jewish Cemetaries #usa


Researching the family of Auguste ZOBEL #general


Searching for the descendants of Auguste ZOBEL born 1888 in Pleschen daughter of Nossen ZOBEL and Helene WERNER died in November 1940 in the sinking of the SS Patria in Haifa Harbor. Her second husband Jacob BARASCH born 1880 in Lissa survived. 

Auguste had two daughters born 1918-1922. We believe Auguste’s first husband’s surname was ZOBEL as well. Daughter Leni>Helene Hahn living in Tel Aviv in 1940 and Elsa ZOBEL survived the war in Europe, but whereabouts after 1949 unknown. Jacob had a son Gerhard born 1919 in Berlin, naturalized and living in Palestine in 1940.

Auguste had other family members living in Israel through her two sisters Fredericka ZOBEL RUSCHIN and Tinka>Therese ZOBEL SALOMON both killed in Shoah. They include Fritz RUSCHIN (d) 1938, Fritz MEYER  (d) 1997, Heinz “Hillel” SALOMON (d) abt. 2000 and Elisabeta>Elsa SALOMON Rosenberg (d) 2004
Ann Adenbaum

Help Transcribe the Cairo Geniza Online (URL CORRECTION) #translation

Adam Cherson

The url provided earlier is now obsolete. The correct url is:


This is a wonderful way to donate small amounts of time to help recover a valuable segment of Jewish History.


I've done some of this and it is something almost anyone can do, a few minutes here and there. Knowledge of Hebrew is not necessary.


Adam Cherson, NY, NY


Oshman Moshe from Wilna Lithuania that married Miriam Goldzicher in Warsaw Poland, #lithuania #belarus #poland


Looking for maternal grandfather of Maria Gordon Kosfiszer.
Her maternal grandmother was Miriam Goldzicher, born on December 22, 1888 in Warsaw,Poland. Miriam had 5 siblings
Miriam Married around 1915 in Warsaw Poland Moshe Oshman from Wilna, Lithuania. We do not know the spelling of Oshman, the date of birth or the exact place he came from as Wilna may refer the the city, or a much larger area.
We have stories that the Oshmans had a fruit store and they were 3 brothers and one sister.
Miriam and Moshe had an only child, Leah Oshman, born Nov 8 1916.
When Leah was not yet one year old her father and mother developed typhus and Moshe past away. Miriam survived but died young in 1937.
Miriam remarried and moved from Warsaw to the Ukraine, and later on to Buenos Aires, Argentina.
I would appreciate any help regarding Moshe's origins.

Re: How to learn if an immigrant received US citizenship? #usa

Adelle Gloger

To answer the question—
    Check with the county board of elections wherever this person lived to see if he registered to vote. In order to register to vote proof of citizenship— either  birth certificates or naturalization papers — must be presented. The voter registration will give place of naturalization. This information should be public information.
Adelle Weintraub Gloger, Cleveland, Ohio

Help Transcribe the Cairo Geniza Online #translation

Adam Cherson

This is a wonderful way to donate small amounts of time to help recover a valuable segment of Jewish History:;jsessionid=19CDF053CCE1EDF22E9C7EACDAEDB364


I've done some of this and it is something almost anyone can do, a few minutes here and there. Knowledge of Hebrew is not necessary.


Adam Cherson, NY, NY


Chag Pesach Sameach #general #JewishGenUpdates

Eli Rabinowitz

To all our family and friends at
We wish you a Chag Pesach Sameach. Keep safe and well!
Jill and Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia

Translation needed: Russian script to English #translation

Elizabeth Jackson

I am desperately seeking a translation of pertinent information from this marriage record for Gitla Klepfisz and Josek Joskowitz.  I am specifically in need of the names of Gitla's parents to determine if this is my Great Aunt.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Elizabeth Jackson

Researching:. Ingberg and Klepfisz of Poland/Ukraine

Re: How to learn if an immigrant received US citizenship? #usa


Thank you. 

To the best of my knowledge, one does not need to be a citizen to get a social security number.
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA

Hebrew translation request #translation #germany


Hello Friends,
I posted last week about a document located in the Kriegshaber Synagogue in Augsburg Germany referred to as a Schnoder Plaque by the synagogue's research assistant. From replies I received it may be either a list of those eligible to be called to the Torah, or those who have made contributions after receiving a Mischabaruch. The copy dates back to 1930's and is in poor condition. I have tried to enhance the photo and am seeking your help in translating the Hebrew title. I am able to read all of the names.  I have successfully identified about half of the letters in the title, but not quite enough to read it. Hoping some of you may be familiar with this type of document, or have better luck than I to read the words. The image appears below, but I have also included it as a word document attachment. If someone can read them, I would appreciate a translation as well.
Richard Oppenheimer
please reply privately

Seeking SLONIMSKYSlM / Aronovsky #names

Rochelle Gershenow

Family back story: The surname wasn't always Slonimsky.  We were told it was changed to avoid conscription.  No one living knew when it was changed or what the original name was.

Jacob Slonimsky was my great grandfather.  My research led me to determine he had a sister, Rose, whose married name was Weinstein (husband was Hyman).  Rose and her family lived in New York.  I determined the sibling relationship based on a number of family connections and the name of their father on their respective tombstones.  Mordekhai Zundl on Jacob's and Zundl Mordekhai on Rose's.  Jacob's oldest son was named Sundel Marks Slonimsky (Slonim).

I just found birth indexes from New York on Ancestry and Family Search for four of Rose's children.  The maiden name given for Rose on these documents are: Rinovsky, Arorosky, Aranovsky, and Aronovsky.  The name probably was Aronovsky.  This information was transcribed so I won't be able to assess the accuracy until I can view the original documents in a Family History Center, now closed because of coronavirus.

I also found on Ancestry information from a Kovno Cemetery list produced by the burial society of Vilijampole for a Reuven Aronovsky born around the same time as Jacob and Rose, i.e., abt. 1861.  He died on 8/2/1942.  His father's name is given as Moshe.  But the most interesting information is they list "Other Surnames: as Slonimsky.

Now I have to figure out where I go from here.  I have emailed DNA matches who have large trees with Aronovsky somewhere in the tree.  I will contact Aronovsky researchers listed in Jewish Gen.  I haven't yet found a ship manifest for Rose and her family (she was married with one child when she came to the US).  Any suggestions would be welcome.
Rochelle Gershenow
Connecticut, USA
Searching: AGINSKY (Stowbtsy, Belarus); CHAIKIN (Homyel, Belarus; Priluki, Ukraine); GERISH/GOROSH/GOROSCH (Vitebsk Guberynia Belarus/Latvia); GERSHONOWITZ (Lithuania; USA); LANGDORF (Galicia);  MERRIN (Belarus); PURINSON/PURINZON (Priluki,Ukraine; Argentina; Brazil; Israel; USA; Anywhere); SLONIMSKY/SLONIM (Minsk, Belarus; USA); SONDAK/SUNDOCK/SUNDACK (Janavole, Borkhovo, Rezekne, and Ludza, Latvia; USA); SOKOLOVSKY (Priluki, Ukraine)

Re: Re: seeking FUERLICHT #austria-czech #hungary #usa


Hello Alex,


Here are a few records that might help identify 2 possible children for Herbert Spencer FEUERLICHT and "maybe" also a grandchild. It's a bit confusing because both Herbert and his brother Leonard appear to have changed their surnames to FORREST on their U.S. WWII Draft Records (see attached pictures) and go back and forth between FEUERLICHT and FORREST after that. To begin:



b.29 Mar 1912, Bronx, NY

d. 30 Aug 2008, Westchester County, NY


Married 10 Nov 1950 to:

Lillian HILSUM

b.16 Mar 1913, New York City

d. 18 Jan 2005, Westchester County, NY

Both Herbert and Lillian are buried in King David Cemetery, Putnam Valley, Putnam, NY(see tombstone pics and Find a Grave links)


2 possible children and a grandchild for Herman and Lillian:

Parmenus ROSECRANS-buried in Ohio but named as a son on Herbert’s Find a Grave site (see Find a Grave links for both Parmenus and Herbert). 

Sanford J. FORREST b.1954 d.2006-"not" named as a son of Herbert or Lillian on their Find a Grave memorials, however, Sanford has a similar tombstone and is buried in the same King David Cemetery as they are (see Sanford’s Find a Grave link).



Betty Jane FORREST-listed as a daughter of Sanford A. FORREST (see Find a Grave links)


Herbert S. FORREST-Find a Grave

Lillian H. FORREST-Find a Grave

Sanford J. FORREST-Find a Grave

Parmenus ROSECRANS-Find a Grave
(Also see attached doc. as to possible use of an alias name)


Betty J. FORREST SMITH-Find a Grave



While Find a Grave postings are not always totally accurate, they can provide good clues. And some of these give brief bios as well. Plus if the Ohio information pans out, there seems to be extended family in that area. Most of the other information like dates for Herbert and Lillian are from Ancestry records. Let me know if you need clarification about any of them. Attached are some other mentioned records plus clear photos of the tombstones for Herman FEUERLICHT and wife Johanna from just in case you can use (buried: Beth El Cemetery, Ridgewood, NY). Other than the WW II draft record for Leonard FEUERLICH/FORREST, I was not able to find much more information about him.

Karen Gregar Schneider


Bolingbrook, Illinois, USA


Gregar/Groger: Hoorepnik, Czechia and Amsterdam, Montgomery Co., New York, USA

Popper: Amsterdam, Montgomery Co., New York, USA







Re: Origin of the name Liss #names

Michael Hoffman

Hello Nancy S,

Would you be interested in a copy of the Marriage Certificate of the marriage of a Harris Liss to Rachel Shamrock, which took place in London, ENGLAND in 1898, Harris Liss's father is an Israel Liss. There is a record in the archives of YIVO, in the Industrial Removal Records when this couple moved to Illinois from NYC.


Michael Hoffman

Researching:- SCHAMROTH / SHAMROCK, Krakow, Poland, London, UK and USA.   

Seeking a book by Gabriela Mistral #france #germany #holocaust

Kira Dolcimascolo

Hello, I hope you are all in good health.
i have a research request regarding the Chilean poet and diplomat Gabriela MistraI. I am seeking to access a book of her letters due to the Covid virus closing libraries. The letters include requests for assistance  from Jews attempting to flee Europe. 
I am seeing a copy a few pages Mistral’s Antología Mayor (1992)- One of  4 volumes (Cartas). I am seeking two pages from this book about a member of my family, Elly LEON, whose mother Gertrud, a German Jew,  sought help for her daughter to flee the holocaust while Mistral was a diplomat in Nice, France. Elly LEON was a Turkish-German Jew living in Berlin.
If you or others can send me images from “Cartas”, it would be so appreciated. 
Kind Regards from Baltimore,

Re: Overdose of quinine #general #holocaust

Jill Whitehead

According to today's UK Guardian newpaper in an article by Laura Spinney, quinine was much in use during the 1918 flu epidemic "even though there was no evidence it worked for flu" and "doctors often overprescribed it causing side effects." She quotes Mark Honingsbaums' new book on the 1918 flu epidemic that "Londoners refused to be fobbed off with advice to gargle witht saltwater, and they besieged doctors' surgeries demanding quinine". 

One of my relations was a medic in WW1, but came back from the war to die of Spanish Flu in 1919. Another relation was put in an asylum after suffering post natal depression and died of Spanish Flu there in 1919.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK