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ViewMate translation request - Yiddish #yiddish #lithuania #translation

Michael Herzlich
 

Resubmitting form I sent earlier without the neccessary information.

I've posted a vital record in Yiddish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

I have posted a short message from the back of a photo card of woman that was given to Miriam Magilner (Meri-Leje Sapockaite) 5 years before emigrating to the US from Lithuania.  This is one of about 15 from the album that date to the 1930's.  Looking for details such a names, places, relationship. The stamp on the card appears to be Utena.
Thank you very much.

Michael Herzlich
Delray Beach, Florida USA

Belarus - EPSTEIN, HELFAND, POLLACK
Galicia (Poland, Ukraine) - HERZLICH, TREIBER


Re: 2020 US Census, post census thoughts #general

Lee Jaffe
 

A couple points about the census not already discussed.  

One of my first encounters with census data was hearing about a research project at U of Penn where they were mapping ethnicity/country of origin and occupation over several decades around the turn of the century to look at social and economic mobility.  This was in the mid-1970s when computers were still rare and the size of a room.  All the coding had to be done by hand and rendering the output in map form was a challenge the research team hadn't worked out.  I learned about this at a party of grad students when I happened to mention that my grandfather had told me he'd worked as a cigar maker and my classmate's husband told me that was a very common job for Jews in Philadelphia at that time. He proceeded to describe the research project and other early findings about the city's population they were gleaning from the census polls.   

I have wondered about the difference in data collected from the earlier handwritten, face-to-face enumerations to the current polls collected by mail or online.  The later ones will be easier to read -- less confusion about handwriting -- but I've always found something special when reading the handwritten entries. (Of course, there are the unfortunate mistakes, as well. My great grandmother Dora being transcribed Iona, for instance.)  In each case, I find myself wondering which family member answered the door and whether the variations in spelling and dates was due to their familiarity with English or the thickness of their accents.  In one case I discovered that the census taker was a relative. In those entries, where county of birth was asked, she entered Grodno, Russia, and Grodno was crossed out.  Ancestry's transcription only recorded Russia, but seeing the original entry is so much more revealing. One wonders how much will be lost to the Procrustean bed of automation.

Finally, as described by others, the Census has often asked a lot of questions that were unnecessary for its Constitutional mandate.  A simple enumeration of those living in a household  would suffice.   To this, I point out that the Census Bureau is under the Dept. of Commerce. But like others,  I appreciate that other data was reported. The question about number of children born/still living asked in 1900 and 1910, has helped solve more than one point of confusion about my great-grandparents and the next generation.  In the 1940 Census, they asked where you were living in 1935. My great uncle answered Norway: he'd actually been working for a Soviet newspaper in Moscow then, but knew better than tell a US official that.  But even the lie helps confirm the family legend about his exploits.

However, during the debate about adding citizenship questions to the 2020 Census, I came across an excellent article showing how those questions in the past polls were explicitly fueled by anti-immigrant movements.  The questions were put there as part of often-successful campaigns to limit further immigration. (It was irrefutably proved to be directed at voter suppression -- immigrants voting overwhelmingly Democrat -- in this Census.)  As genealogists, we may lament the sparser record collected now, but as children of those who were lucky enough to make it to safer shores (wherever you are) before reactionary forces slammed the door, I hope we can appreciate the context for the shorter questionnaire.

Lee Jaffe
JOROFF/SCHWARTZ/KOSHKIN


Re: Visas issued overseas (Riga, Latvia) in 1926 #latvia

Renée K. Carl
 

Hi Ellen
None of the consular records I mentioned are online. You have to research them in person. The National Archives will not perform a search for you, they will help you plan your visit and use the records, but they do not perform searches.

The House Registers are available on FamilySearch in the catalog as a BROWSE, not indexed. This is a link to just SOME of the files: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/3032312?availability=Family%20History%20Library
To see what else is available, or to see other locations and what might be available to browse, go to FamilySearch.org. Under the SEARCH tab, select CATALOG. Enter a place (geographic location), hit enter, and it will list what is available.

Happy hunting!
Renee


Adoption of maternal names #names #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

There were cases of men who married women from Rabbinical lineage and
took the wife's maiden name as their family names. One example is the
son of a Rabbi David, Rav of Novarodok who married a HOROWITZ (from
Minsk) and he adopted her family name due to its famed rabbinical
lineage. This is a case in which a HOROWITZ was not a levite (Levi) as
are almost all of the HOROWITZ clan. Of course all their male
descendants will not levites .

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Deaths at sea during transatlantic crossings #general

Pamela Jacobs
 

According to my grandmother (reported by my mother), she sailed from Liverpool to NY in 1907, accompanied by her 6-month-old son. She stated that the infant became ill and died during the sea voyage. Assuming this is accurate, would there be documentation somewhere that might confirm this? When I read the ship's manifest, I think i see a barely legible notation next to his name stating "died" in parentheses. But I could be seeing this because I'm searching for it.

On the same topic, what would have been the disposition of the body of an infant who died at sea? Burial at sea? Would there have been a mechanism for notifying the child's father (who was already in the U.S.) of this event?


My great hunt Rachel Levinsky #names #israel

JOSEPH GODELNIK
 

Hi, my name is Yossi Godelnik and I am working on my mother family tree - Ginzburg. I try to find relatives of my mother - hunt Rachel (Rochel, Rychel) Levinsky - Ginzburg. Rachel ginzburg was born at April 15, 1885 in Jerusalem to Shmuel Yosef Ginzburg. She married to Levinsky, I think he was Rabbi, and immigrate with him to USA at early 20th century (I think 1909). I know for sure that they have a son and might be they have also a daughter. Around 1950 she came back (alone) to Israel and stay in Bnei Brak (she was very religious women). She died on 2.2.1979. I will appreciate to find more details about her family.


--
Jgodelnik


Re: Louis (Ludwig) LILIENTHAL in Minden #germany #holocaust

Melchiorsh@...
 

This is Louis Lilienthal's birth certificate. To my regret, I don't have more information. The doc. confirm his birthplace and the date
Shlomo Melchior
Ramat Gan 
Israel


New Database on IGRA’s Website Holocaust Survivors #holocaust

Elena Bazes
 

In observance of Yom Ha’Shoa (Holocaust Day) in Israel, the Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released a new database which includes 20 files of Holocaust Survivors with over 40,000 names.

There are over 1,500,000 records available in our databases. With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection. 

A preview of the database is available at 

 

https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/2020-04-igra-release-holocaust-Survivors-1945

 

 

List of Jewish Women from Hungary and Transylvania Found at Wurzen

 

List of Jewish Survivors in Some Italian Cities

 

List of Jewish Survivors from Eastern European Towns

 

List of Surviving Jews in Poland (submitted by the Jewish Committee in Krakow)

 

List of Czechoslovakians Liberated from German Concentration Camps

 

List of Jewish Survivors Arrived in Amsterdam from Concentration Camps

 

List of Jews Found Surviving in Holland

 

List of Polish Jews Liberated from the Bergen-Belsen Camp

 

List of Jews Liberated from Camp Dora (Nordhausen)

 

List of Repatriated Czechoslovakian Nationals Registered at the Repatriation Office at Kosice

 

List of Jewish Survivors in Milan

 

List of Polish Jews Liberated from the Dachau Camp

 

List of Bucharest Jews Surviving in Poland

 

List of Jewish Survivors Found in Gyor

 

List of Czechoslovakian Nationals Registered in the Bergen-Belsen Camp on May 9

 

List of Czechoslovakian Nationals Registered in the Bergen-Belsen Camp April 4-May 7

 

List of Jewish Survivors Liberated from the Salzwedel Camp

 

List of Dutch Jewish Survivors Arrived in Sweden

 

List of Jews from Budapest in Northern Italy

 

List of Jewish Survivors Found in Theresienstadt on May 10, 1945

 

 

Before viewing the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website:

 

http://genealogy.org.il/


To search the databases, go to the database tab on the website’s homepage. 

 

Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants. The search results page is also available to all registrants. Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific archives.

 

Elena Biegel Bazes

IGRA Publicity Chair

 


Re: Moltovichi, Belarus #belarus

Martha Forsyth
 

Let's hear it for having spent a lot of time looking at old maps, and collecting scans of many of them!  Somewhere along the line, about 5 years ago, I came across a map of the Mogilev region.  I stupidly did NOT annotate where I found it....but I save a pdf file from it that is named "32 Mogilev gubernia 1871 -q" (the -q is my way of putting a question mark into a file name: I was not quite sure of the date).  Since the record that led you to the town name Molotovichi (an 1816 Census record) also included the towns of Cherikov and Krichev, we figured the three towns must not have been far apart.  So I enlarged the map enough to read the town names....and sure enough, there was a town named Malyatichi that makes a nice little triangle with Cherikov and Krichev!  I think I've found the place!  I am replying publicly because I think it's good to be reminded that maps are a wonderful resource (and fortunately I can read the Cyrillic)


Koltenon and Kamorannka - cities in Russia? Latvia? #lithuania #russia #latvia

BSR352
 

Good morning. 
I am trying to find the birthplace of a great grandfather who has written on different documents Russia/Latvia/Lithuania. The town listed on two documents is Koltenon (or Koltanon).

I thought it could be a border town between Latvia and Lithuania but haven't found anything that sounds similar. 

On his official Petition for Naturalization, in April 1925, he disavows allegiance to the Republic of Latvia in order to become a US citizen. 

At the same time, his wife is listed as being born in Kamorannka, Russia, which has also drawn a blank. 

Has anyone encountered Koltenon before? What about Kamorannka?

BR,
Bryan  


Translation of the two Memorial (Yizkor) Book of the Jewish Community of Ostrow Mazowiecka, Poland are available at reduced price #yizkorbooks #poland

Joel Alpert
 

Yizkor Books in Print is happy to make these two books available at a
severely reduced price by ordering through JewishGen

List price: $69.95, available from JewishGen for $45

For more information and directions for ordering go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Ostrow_Mazowiecka.html
Go toward the bottom of the page below "Available at:" for the link to
start your order.

Please note that there is a second Yizkor Book for Ostrow Mazowiecka
also available:
List price: $52.95, available from JewishGen for $35

For more information and directions for ordering go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Ostrow_Mazowiecka1.html

Caution: when ordering make clear which one you want. Either the top
one, call it Ostrow Mazowiecka #1 or the bottom one Ostrow Mazowiecka #2

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project


Translation of the Miechov Memorial Book, including Charsznica and Ksiaz available at reduced price #yizkorbooks

Joel Alpert
 

Yizkor Books in Print is happy to make this book available at a
severely reduced price by ordering through JewishGen

List price: $57.95, available from JewishGen for $33

For more information and directions for ordering go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Miechow.html
Go toward the bottom of the page below "Available at:" for the link to
start your order.

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project


Translation of the Memorial Book of Tluste (Tovste), Ukraine available at reduced price #yizkorbooks #ukraine

Joel Alpert
 

Yizkor Books in Print is happy to make this book available at a
severely reduced price by ordering through JewishGen

Available at: JewishGen for $35 including shipping, handling and taxes.

For more information and directions for ordering go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Tovste.html
Go toward the bottom of the page below "Available at:" for the link to
start your order.

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project


BOAZ / BOAS family from Schwerin, Mecklenberg #germany

Ted Kotzin
 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I am researching Otillie and Herman Boaz, form Schwerin, north Germany.  They apparently were sister and brother. Otille, born 1850, married David Neumann of Frankfurt in Berlin (or London?) in  1875, came th the US from London about 1881, lived in Edenton NC for a while, and went to New York before 1900.

 

Herman Boaz was born in 1854, married Ernestine (Esther) Lowenthal, from Bomst,  (now Babimost) in Prussia, west of Posen (Poznan); they came to New York and then North Carolina, eventually settling in Atlanta.

 

IUs anyone familiar with  this BoazBoas family

 

Ted Kotzin,   Torrance CA   TKotzin4713@...

 

 


Re: Louis (Ludwig) LILIENTHAL in Minden #germany #holocaust

Rodney Eisfelder
 

Mike,
In the Jewishgen Holocaust database, the "German Towns Project" collection includes two Ludwig Lilienthals. It sounds as if the information you gave is a mashup of these two people.
One of them was born in Minden (but in 1858) and died in Unna (in 1935).
The other was born in Fürth in 1899, spent time in Dachau after Kristallnacht and was deported in 1941 from Nürnberg (Nuremberg).
(see https://www.mappingthelives.org or https://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html.de?id=916079 )

It might be worthwhile double-checking the sources. Do you have the birth record from Minden? Does it show that adopted the middle name "Israel" in 1939?

I hope this helps
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia


#translation Yiddish #translation

Nurit Har-zvi
 

Hello,

I have re-posted the Yiddish portion of a letter in which my
grandparents were trying to get information from my grandmother's
sisters on how to immigrate to the US or Canada. Someone had already
translated the Polish portion of the letter. I would very much
appreciate a translation of the Yiddish.

The letter is 2 1/2 pages (each page is a separate ViewMate document)
on ViewMate. Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate
image page.

Thank you & Be well,
Nurit Har-zvi
Forest Hills, NY

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM79436

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM79437

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM79438


Re: 2020 US Census, post census thoughts #general

Mark Jacobson
 

Your statement about the amount of information in the 2020 US census is not accurate. It is less than any of the publicly available census records since 1850 but that only spans to 1940. The US census from 1960 to 2000 were very short forms, most with less than 10 questions, for the majority of the population and a small percentage sampling of the population received longer forms with specifically targeted questions. Whether these longer forms even survive is unknown. For example, in 1960, the first year the census was mailed to the population, 25% received a long form with more than 20 questions focused on housing and employment. For the rest of the population, 75% of the US, "The census "short form" collected only five questions: relationship to head of household, age, sex, race, and marital status."
I think that we will not find any US census after 1950 of any real genealogical value in the future (unless the long form survives and our family happened to be included and answer the questions).

Mark Jacobson
Past President, JGSPBCI
Gesher Galicia Board member
JRI-Poland Town Leader Boryslaw and Drohobycz
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Tripolye/Vasilkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk/Lepel, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN/KAMMERMANN, WEGNER - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 02:48:31 PM EDT, jeremy frankel <jfrankel@...> wrote:


The coronavirus pandemic has pushed the 2020 US Census off the front-page news. Obviously people have more important things on their mind. Looking at the California figures, some 47% of households have already responded online, making it the #1 state for online response. Admittedly I didn't fill it out on 1st April (but did it the next day) and got a confirmation number. Hence it was very interesting to receive in the mail (alas unstamped, undated) last week a pristine paper copy. This will augment my digital blank and filled-out copy.

As many of us have now seen, a census it may be, but it has about the least amount of genealogical information since, well, 1850. Why is that? Here's my take; as has already been reported in the BBC News about next year's UK 2021 Census, so many government agencies already have the goods on us; asking us to repeat what they know would be a waste of time. However, to amend the Constitution would be a massive undertaking and there would probably be a huge 'push-back' from the citizens of America. Hence, it's far better, every decade to have a meaningless census than amend the Constitution.

Thoughts?

Jeremy Frankel
formerly: Edgware, Middlesex, England
now: Sacramento, California, USA


Viewmate Translation Request - #russia

Greg Tuckman
 

Hello group,
I've posted 5 vital records in Russian for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

1.  Birth record of Abraham Jakob ZYLBERWAJS: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM79405&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C69aaf972c6354f01f2a508d7e4a65c6e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637229275471078469&amp;sdata=UTVz52WLGwfQ3NW%2FlBt1Wdsy1vF8Wxj0fiyMPN03NEg%3D&amp;reserved=0

2.  Birth Record of Estera ZYLBERWAJS:  https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM79406&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbe94e2b136a04bb15b1508d7e4a66065%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637229275533334576&amp;sdata=6gJQ5cEXI7n%2FcSyV7NJcX0O9mxvwaBennfhr0C3wWbw%3D&amp;reserved=0

3.  Death Record of Chaim TAUBENFEDER:  https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM79407&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C16ece18ba520481d801908d7e4a6648e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637229275602693601&amp;sdata=Drqy%2BHFoFbGkaHgIsoVj6FhVAiyrcNSQnrQk%2FCgbvgo%3D&amp;reserved=0

4.  Birth Record of Ester Brucha MANTEL:  https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM79408&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf880f38277f54a7d118308d7e4a674ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637229275873567280&amp;sdata=PK9OXGKRSaHLzTteQeHJSW2dDzYlxseIBCq1YsPpfV8%3D&amp;reserved=0

5.  Death Record of Estera GOLDMAN nee FEDERMAN:  https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM79409&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C2c7a3706b5444c4f416b08d7e4a6782a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637229275932698486&amp;sdata=cC5lNgxLaA53iWRe2RzPJbdoO0iWUVu3UxMlYEB4foI%3D&amp;reserved=0

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.    Thank you very much.

Greg Tuckman,  Phoenix, AZ


Arolsen Archives Has 26 Million Documents Online About Victims of Nazi Persecution #holocaust

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

In a press release shared April 14, the Arolsen Archives announced they have 26 million documents with information on 21 million names of victims about victims of Nazi persecution online. It was last November when it was reported on this forum that they  had added 10 million names from 850,000 records. The press release states, “ The Arolsen Archives have recently expanded the collections on the internet to include documents on forced laborers and on deportations to concentration camps. This means that the majority of the documents in the world’s most comprehensive archive on Nazi persecution are now accessible online.”

 

This achievement occurred in less than one year between the Arolsen Archives and their partner, the World Holocaust Remembrance Center Yad Vashem, Israel. The new online archive was launched in May 2019 with 13 million documents.

 

There are two collections that went online:

Card index of forced laborers – original documents and copies of documents about millions of forced laborers that make it possible to trace the fates of individuals: registration cards, questionnaires, correspondence

Deportations – of Jews, Roma and Sinti from the former German empire, Austria, Bohemia, and Moravia: transport and deportation lists with information about millions of people deported to concentration camps and ghettoes.


Spelling may be different on different documents, therefore some people may be counted more than once.


To read the press release see:

https://arolsen-archives.org/en/news/26-millionen-dokumente-ueber-ns-verfolgte-online/

This is in English. It is also available in German if you click on the EN in the upper right hand corner you can chose German.


To access the online archive go to:  https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/search/  You will have to agree to their terms and conditions to access the records.  You will then be directed to the search area.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: 2020 US Census, post census thoughts #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

I agree that the genealogical value of the census, was not the purpose.  The purpose is and was to determine the population size so as to properly distribute the number of representatives to the US House of Representatives.   The census has many other uses, that we can't see because we only work with old ones.  It is the statistical information that is used now.  However, since we DO use it, and it will have some value for future generations - if only to locate us 72 years from now, it would be helpful to have additional questions asked.  My daughter said that she has done the communities survey in the past.  I have never done one. I wish that it had at least asked occupation - that would be useful today as well.  It is possible that some people simply have not had the time to respond, if they work at an essential job.  That is why occupation would be helpful.

Sarah L Meyer,  Georgetown TX   <sarahlmeyer@...>    https://www.sarahsgenies.com

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