Re: Seeking 1940 ship name and manifest Lisbon to Mozambique Portugal Lourenço Marques #general

Paul Silverstone

Try the Lloyds records at the Guildhall Library in London.  They have all Lloyds once-secret voyage records.   Someone there should be able to help you.

Paul Silverstone

Re: searching for the maiden name of my great-grandmother Riva/Rivke BERENSON #ukraine

Alan Shuchat


It may be that your ggf's marriage record will eventually appear in Alex Krakovsky's postings of Ukraine records. Lara Diamond posted about Krasnoye records from the mid-19th century at

Alex has posted records from Shpikov, which is nearby Krasnoye. His Ukrainian-language siteЄврейське_містечко is organized by location, and you can use Google Translate to get an approximate translation into English. Or, see this site for the Podolia records

Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA


Elise Cundiff

The Brina in my family went by Blanche in the USA.   My uncle was named for his great-grandfather Lazar, and was called Lawrence. So you see there are many examples to show that any name with the same first letter could have been chosen for use in America, 

Re: Searching GRUNFELD (GREENFELD) family from Maramaros county. #hungary #rabbinic #romania

Peninah Zilberman

Shalom Yehudah,


Tarbut Foundation has organized a few All Generations Gathering

in the past 5  years in Marmaures.

I came across a few Grünfeld and Greenfield,

will send you introductions to your personal Email.

Best regards




LOGO tarbut 2015-EMAIL

Peninah Zilberman

Canada 1-416-781-0330

Romania + 40-74-414-5351

Israel 972-54-228-8141




Miriam Bulwar David-Hay

Leizer is short for Eliezer, a Hebrew male name. Cerne is probably Czarna (pronounced Charna, with a ch like in charm), a woman's name, from the Polish word for "black." Breine or the diminutive Braindl or similar is a Yiddish name for women, meaning "brown." Polish and Yiddish names were quite common among Jews, especially women, and not everyone had a Hebrew name. As far as what their English equivalents might have been, people who anglicized their names often chose something that sounded similar to the original, or started with the first letter/s of the original, but not always.

All the best,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel. 



Leiser - nickname for Eliezer; Louis is a common corresponding English name but people sometimes chose a different name for some reason.
Cerne or Tserne often came out as Shirley or Cecilia in English but again people cold chose whatever name they liked.

Brick wall 1: the missing DAHL sisters #germany #general


I've decided during this Corona period to gradually outsource to the JewishGen readers the major brick walls in my family tree research. Here is the first one.

Elias Heimann DAHL and Sibilla MEYER had 12 children; 9 of them have available records showing their births, marriages, families and deaths.

However 3 of the sisters only have birth records: Rosette DAHL, born 30 Apr 1842; Rosalia DAHL, born 5 Feb 1850; and Mathilde DAHL, born 7 Sep 1854. They were all born in Geilenkirchen, Germany. The Geilenkirchen archive has no further records relating to these sisters and they don't have graves in the Geilenkirchen Jewish cemetery. (Geilenkirchen is North of Aachen, close to the Dutch border.)

There are no additional details and several years of online and direct enquiries have not uncovered additional information.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Richard DAHL,
Rehovot, Israel

Re: At a dead end: searching for the siblings of Oskar Wurzel #poland


Thank you Sherri!
This is very helpful.


(Scotland) Scotland's People Announced Due to Pandemic They are Unable to Process any Certificates #unitedkingdom

Jan Meisels Allen



Scotland’s People, the government organization that provides vital records for Scotland, has announced with advice from the United Kingdom and Scottish government to delay the spread of the Corona virus has closed their search rooms in Edinburgh and stop production of all types of certificates an official extracts until further notice.  The notice from the National Records of Scotland may be read at:


There is also information in that notice allowing for registrars to take “remote” registration for deaths by telephone or electronic means.  Registration of births has been temporarily suspended whilst registration offices are closed to the public.


Marriages and Civil Partnerships are not permitted during this time without a Schedule for which registrars have been instructed to stop during the pandemic.


While visiting the Soctlands’s People’s site you may find their records of interest:

civil registers, church registers, census returns, valuation rolls, legal records and poor relief and migration records. You can search them free of charge and pay for copies using credits or vouchers. The exceptions to this are the Highlands and Islands Emigration records (within the 'Poor relief and migration records' category) and the 1881 LDS transcribed census records (within the 'Census returns' category). These can be searched and viewed for free. To see what you can do for free go to:


For information about fees for copies and certificates please see their charges page.


Thank you to Jeanette Rosenberg MBE, JGS Great Britain, for sharing the information on Scotland’s People.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee



Re: #translation Yiddish #translation


i can try to  help you call/text me 447973696548
eli schwartz

Re: My great hunt Rachel Levinsky #names #israel

Lynn Franklin

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 06:41 AM, JOSEPH GODELNIK wrote:
Hi, my name is Yossi Godelnik and I am working on my mother family tree - Ginzburg. I try to find relatives of my mother - hunt Rachel (Rochel, Rychel) Levinsky - Ginzburg. Rachel ginzburg was born at April 15, 1885 in Jerusalem to Shmuel Yosef Ginzburg. She married to Levinsky, I think he was Rabbi, and immigrate with him to USA at early 20th century (I think 1909). I know for sure that they have a son and might be they have also a daughter. Around 1950 she came back (alone) to Israel and stay in Bnei Brak (she was very religious women). She died on 2.2.1979. I will appreciate to find more details about her family.


I've found more, including someone else in the US researching this family.  Her name is Michelle Levan, and I shared your post with her.  Hopefully, she'll get my message and decide to respond, and will be able to figure out how to do so.

I found a record of Michael Levensky's death in Chicago in 1939.  I'll attach the transcription to this post.  Also, a birth record for a son Aaron Joshua Levensky, who may correspond, or not, with Gilbert.  I'll attach this record also.  I found a copy of the Levensky family entering the US from Canada in 1912, but no children older than Esther.  I will try to attach this also.

I sure hope that this is the family you're looking for.


Re: My great hunt Rachel Levinsky #names #israel

Lynn Franklin

Hi Yossi,

In looking further, I found the 1920 US census for this family.  It lists Michael as a Rabbi.  It's interesting that Joe and Gilbert aren't shown as living with them on census day in 1920.  Perhaps they were visiting family elsewhere.  Anyhow, here's a copy of the 1920 census attached.  Also, no older children than Esther listed...

Good luck with your hunt!

Re: My great hunt Rachel Levinsky #names #israel

Lynn Franklin


I was able to find a 1930 US census record from Chicago, Illinois, USA that showed a Rachel Levensky, born in Jerusalem of Russian parents.  It doesn't state her parents names.  Her husband was listed as Michael, a book dealer.  Their children are Esther, Judith, Joe, Ruth and Gilbert.  

Her age is given as 38, her husband 48, in 1930.  But a few columns forward, she says that she was married at 18 years old, her husband was 22.  If her husband's age in 1930 was 48 years, he would have been born about 1882.  If she was four years younger when she married, she would have been born about 1886.  I think that this may be a case of a woman trying to appear younger, which is fairly common on these census reports, in my experience.

Given that her oldest child, Esther is listed as 18, Rachel would have been 30 by my figuring, when Esther was born.  I would look for more children, one born when Rachel was between the ages of 18 and 30.

At least this gives you the name of five of their children, if you decide that this is the correct Rachel Levensky.

I've attached the census page here.  If you can't read it for some reason, let me know and I'll be glad to email it to you.

Let me know if you think that this is the person that you are looking for.

in Tennessee, USA

Re: Site cite: name adoption list Gailingen #germany

Rodney Eisfelder

The name adoption lists can now be found at:

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia


David Lewin

Google Translate gives the dead opposite:

Translations of Cerne

in the black

At 02:34 22/04/2020, Andy Monat wrote:
Re given name "Cerne": You can see the Hebrew spelling for what I assume is the same name as your Cerne on this grave marker for an ancestor of mine, Hannah Berkowitz Weiss. (Hebrew is צש×�×¨× ×¢, or tsadi-shin-aleph-resh-nun-ayin).

It also seems to be included in Dr. Alexander Beider's Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names as Tsherne, as seen in the index here.

Re: downloading an image #general

Bob Thompson

You might try downloading a tool that allows you to copy all or part of any screen you see.  I use this a lot and copy the image to a Word file.  See

Re: downloading an image #general

Dahn Cukier

Depends on the browser you are using.

I find Chrome is better than Firefox when downloading a picture or using printing a
html page. My default browser is FF.

I think there is a way for the developer to prevent downloading of photos, then you
will need to screen-capture the computer screen.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 04:04:12 PM GMT+3, Lisa <lisa@...> wrote:

I found a record on JewishGen, and when I clicked through, I found an image here:

And I can't see any way to download it.  Is there a trick to it?



2020 US Census - further thoughts #general


At the IAJGS conference in Boston in 2013, I attended a session where we were told that groups like Geni would "soon" have a nearly-complete global family tree on-line.  My comment at the time was that this would convert genealogy from a pleasurable hobby into middle-school math: people who couldn't work out the answers themselves would simply go on-line to find them.  I don't remember what they meant by "soon," but I'll bet it is well before 2092, when the results of the 2020 census become publicly available.  I doubt anyone in 2092 will be upset much by what isn't in this year's census.
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Yale Zussman

Re: Yom HaShoah 2020/5780 #JewishGenUpdates #holocaust

Jerry Reitman

Thank you Abraham !

Our family, Reitman (Rejtman) lost 43 of loved one’s in the Holocaust.
But there is one for whom I cannot find any information. He was my father ‘s oldest brother, Aron Wolfe Reitman.

My father, along with his mother, sister (Esther) and younger brother ( David) immigrated in 1923 to join my grandfather Julius Reitman in Philadelphia. The family was from Kyvl Gurbernia.

For unknown reason my uncle Aron Wolf Reitman did not accompany them.

My previous efforts to find out what happened to him; if he married, was he a victim as well.

Any ideas on how I might get information would be deeply appreciated.

Jerry Reitman
Chicago, Il 60647

On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:

As we observe Yom HaShoah, we are sharing this message from Joyce Field – a devoted volunteer for more than two decades, and past Vice President of JewishGen. During her tenure, she established the Yizkor Book project, Burial Registry (JOWBR) and Holocaust Collection.
Observing Yom HaShoah within the context of the COVID-19 Pandemic has led me to somber reflection. The isolation we are experiencing has reinforced how important the bonds of community truly are, and that life’s meaning is intertwined with family and community.

But it also made me ever cognizant of the challenges and hardships that families experienced just 75 years ago during the Holocaust. While we are physically isolated, we have the luxury of modern technology to keep us safe, entertained, and in constant communication with family and friends.

In contrast, what strength it must have taken for Holocaust Survivors to endure long periods of isolation, permeated by fear and dread of the unknown, without food, water or anything to keep them occupied.

With these thoughts in mind, I am ever so grateful for having had the opportunity to actively participate in, and lead, JewishGen’s important work for so many years. Every moment was meaningful, infused with purpose, and it provided me with a tremendous sense of community. Most importantly, it allowed me to directly create projects and initiatives which, until this very day, help memorialize the Jewish people who were murdered during the Shoah, and their communities whose culture, customs, history and heritage was nearly eradicated.

The word “Yizkor” means “remembrance.” On this day devoted to remembering the Holocaust, and its victims, please do your share to remember our ancestors. Search the Holocaust Collection, or the burial registry. Read through the translations of Yizkor Books, and make sure that the richness of Jewish communal life before the Holocaust will never be forgotten.

We offer our resources as a public service to the Jewish community, and feature unparalleled access to tens of millions of records, search tools, educational resources and networking opportunities. You can begin your search, or get involved, by visiting

Taken last year during the Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust’s staff commemoration of Yom HaShoah. Right to left: Ruth Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen, lights a Yizkor candle with her daughter, Evelyn Orkaby, who is also a gallery educator at the Museum. Jon Rose, a Museum intern, looks on.


Andy Monat

Re given name "Cerne": You can see the Hebrew spelling for what I assume is the same name as your Cerne on this grave marker for an ancestor of mine, Hannah Berkowitz Weiss. (Hebrew is צשארנע, or tsadi-shin-aleph-resh-nun-ayin).

It also seems to be included in Dr. Alexander Beider's Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names as Tsherne, as seen in the index here.

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