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Viewmate Request - Translation Headstone Hebrew -
#translation
Jeff Miller
I've posted a photograph of a headstone with Hebrew inscriptions for which I need a full translation of the Hebrew. It is on ViewMate at the following address ... What I know about my great grandmother Zipporah LANE is that her parents were Berel (Dov Ber) BLANKFORT and Chana WHITEMAN/VETMANOWICZ. Zipporah was born in Lithuania in 1860, lived near Panevezys/Pumpenai area on an inn near a river [I visited the location in 2007] and came to New York where she died in Brooklyn, NY in 1941. Her obituary says she was a religious woman who studied the Talmud. Thank you very much for your assistance
Warmest Regards, Jeff Miller
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ViewMate - Russian to English
#translation
charles goldenzon
Dear JGenners,
I would much appreciate help with the extraction of the following marriage records.
Please reply only via ViewMate.
Regards, Charles Goldenzon, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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stevenjdavid@yahoo.com
Hello... I've been working on my genealogy on and off (mostly off) over the past 30 years. Now that I'm back into it after at least eight years, I was very happy to discover so many searchable databases here on JewishGen. Records from some countries have given me some amazing pieces of information. While those in others (such as Romania) have been very disappointing.
My great grandfather was Isaac/Yitchak David, born about 1873 in Romania (probably Iasi or Peatra Neamt). His parents were Shoyl Ber and Martem/Miriam David, who died around the turn of the 20th century. Isaac/Yitzchak married Sarah Brener, born 1875, daughter of Moise and Raina Brener. Isaac and Sara David had a child who died as an infant around 1896 (I believe that I have the child's death certificate, but I don't understand Romanian), and shortly thereafter, they emigrated to Montreal, and later to Boston.
Isaac David (and his wife, Sarah Brener) had siblings who remained in Romania. I know that one of Isaac's sisters was called Rebeka, who married a man whose last name was Marcovici or Marcovich. They had several children, one of which was named Joseph. We know that her children survived the war, as they were in touch with their American cousins through the 1950s. I believe that after the war they lived in Bucharest. I would love to track down this Rebeka and her descendants. Searchable records via the JewishGen databases have yielded nothing. I have entered every name and combination of names, Hebrew and secular, as well as searched on geni.com and ancestry.com for possible tree matches. I'm wondering if there are other resources for me?
Many Romanian Jews emigrated to Israel in the 1950s and 60s. When I moved to Israel 20+ years ago, there was a service for finding lost relatives. They were successful in helping me find some Brener relatives who moved here, but because I didn't know the given name of Rebeka's husband, there were too many possibilities to narrow the search for a Joseph Marcovich, son of Rebeka and Xxxxxx Marcovich.
Any ideas?
Steven Jonathan David, Ramat Gan, Israel <stevenjdavid@...>
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Translation of Grave Headstone
#translation
Richard Stower
Hello,
Could someone kindly translate the Hebrew inscription on the headstone of my g-grandmother, Golda Gross? Also, according to family Golda was murdered in July 1928 in NYC. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get more information about her death? Thank you and stay healthy. Richard Stower Yarmouth, Maine Researching GROSS/FELLNER (Chortkiv), SECHESTOWER/SPIERMAN (Kolomea), KANNER/SCHMIDT (Dombrowa Tarnowska).
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Re: Seeking 1940 ship name and manifest Lisbon to Mozambique Portugal Lourenço Marques
#general
Yvonne Stern
You probably look for the spanish ship Salvador, sailing under
the flag of Uruguay. The passenger ship departed from Istanbul, Turkey on December 11th, 1940, carrying 327 passengers -Bulgarian Jewish refugees.
She had a capacity for only 40 passengers. The ship foundered in the
Sea of Marmara on December 12th, 1940. with the loss of 204 passengers. Read more at :
http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Salvador.htm
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_(immigration_ship) I´d also like to mention that Lorenzo Marques was the capital of the
Overseas Province of Mozambique before it became independent from
Portugal in 1975. Since then the capital was renamed Maputo.
Regards from Rio de Janeiro, Brasil - Yvonne Stern <yvonne.stern17@...>
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Re: Unsure if these are names! (Breina)
#names
binyaminkerman@...
Breina could also have been anglicized to Beth. There are no hard rules to corresponding Yiddish or Hebrew names to English ones, it's mostly preference.
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Re: Site cite: name adoption list Gailingen
#germany
hennyhouweling@...
Good afternoon,
Try https://www.a-h-b.de/de/projekte/familienforschung/name-adoption-lists/gailingen Best regards, Henny Houweling-Zwart, Nieuwkoop, the Netherlands <hennyhouweling@...>
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ABRAMOWITZ -Novarodok19th cent.
Yonatan Ben-Ari
Researching possible ABRAMOWITZ famiIies in Novarodok in mid 19th cent.TIA.
Yoni Ben-Ari,Jerusalem <yonibenari@...>
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ISAACS-PARKER Family
#germany
#unitedkingdom
Scooby Doo
Hi Everyone,
Hoping everyone is keeping safe & well during this terrible time.
I have struggled to find what happened to the family of Sophia BLOOM (c.1835 Merthyr-1888 Stratford) who married Jacob ISAACS (c.1829 Preußen-1898 Brighton) in Cardiff in 1858. The family lived for quite a while at 23 Spring Rd, Birmingham. Sophia Issacs is buried in Birmingham (I have a low-resolution photo of her badly worn Gravestone).
Jacob Isaacs is buried at Willesden & I manged to locate & photograph his gravestone.
Using the UK Censuses & the GRO Indexes I established that they had 8 children (all born in Newport, Wales), 5 of whom survived beyond infancy:
1-Mark Issacs-(1859-1940)
2-Isidore Isaacs (1861-?)
3-Eli Isaacs (c.1862-?)
4-Sarah Ellen (Nellie) Isaacs (1866-?)
5-Hinda/Hilda Isaacs (c.1867-?)
Here is all I've been able to discover this far:
Most importantly, parts of the family changed their surname to PARKER
Lets start with Sarah Ellen "Nellie" Isaacs who married Joseph MORRIS in London on 20 Feb 1889:
- appear to have had 3 kids all born in Camberwell:
1-Albert Charles Morris b.1889
2-Mabel Sophia Morris b.1889/1890
3-Edith Rebecca Morris b.1891/1892
Have been unable to go any further with this family grouping: Isidore Isaacs: * Likely to have also changed surname to Parker
* There is an Isidore Stanley Parker buried at Rainham
Mark Isaacs: * He definitely changed his surname to PARKER
* Mark was 1st married to Maud Constance Woolf (Whose sister, Flora Norma Woolf married Isaac Harris whose mother Hannah Deborah Bloom-Harris, was a sister of Sophia Bloom as mentioned at the start)
* Mark & Maud had a son: Claude MAUDSLEY John ISAACS b.1888
* Maud Woolf-Isaacs died in 1888
* Mark married Kate Woolf (Not a sibling of Maud) under the name of Mark PARKER , in 1893
* Mark & Kate are buried at Pound Lane & I have their gravestone photos
Claude MAUDSLEY John SAACS: * He also changed his surname to PARKER
* His middle names appear as John Maudsley & also as Maudsley John in different records
* He was in the Royal Navy/Airforce- 2 documents at Kew
* He is noted as a commercial clerk in the 1911 Census
* On 20 Mar 1928, he was found not guilty in the "House Coal Association Fraud Case" * He appears to be the person who married Eileen Maud Reynolds Mackey in 1922
* He appears to be the person whose death was registered in Hammersmith in 1964
* These could possibly be 2 sons born before the marriage?
Births Mar 1912-Parker Richard Bertram , Mother Maiden Name:Mackey St.Giles 1b 1071
Births Jun 1920- Parker George H , Mother Maiden Name:Mackey Fulham 1a 689
With grateful thanks, Joel Levy, London, <scoobydoouk@...>
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Re: Unsure if these are names!
#names
Valentin Lupu
Hi Marylin,
All three words are Ashkenazi Jewish names from Eastern Europe. Leiser (Leizer, Lazar) is a shortened form of the Hebrew name Eliezer. Cerne (Czerne Czarna) is a name of Slavic origin meaning Black. Examples of using this form are: The renown Russian-born Hebrew poet Tchernichovski, the Infamous nuclear plant at Chernobyl, Czarnogora (Black Mountain) the local name of Montenegro and so on. Breine / Breina is the female Slavic name derived from Braun (German) translating to Brown. A good reference book for the meaning and origin of Jewish names is "Jewish Family Names and Their Origins" by Heinrich and Eva Guggenheimer. Valentin Lupu, Israel
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Re: Unsure if these are names.
#names
Rachelle Litt
My Great Aunt had the given name Czerne and it became Claire when she emigrated.
-- Rachelle Litt Palm Beach Gardens, Florida
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Re: Seeking 1940 ship name and manifest Lisbon to Mozambique Portugal Lourenço Marques
#general
Paul Silverstone
Try the Lloyds records at the Guildhall Library in London. They have all Lloyds once-secret voyage records. Someone there should be able to help you.
Paul Silverstone
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Re: searching for the maiden name of my great-grandmother Riva/Rivke BERENSON
#ukraine
Molly,
It may be that your ggf's marriage record will eventually appear in Alex Krakovsky's postings of Ukraine records. Lara Diamond posted about Krasnoye records from the mid-19th century at https://larasgenealogy.blogspot.com/2017/ Alex has posted records from Shpikov, which is nearby Krasnoye. His Ukrainian-language site uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Єврейське_містечко is organized by location, and you can use Google Translate to get an approximate translation into English. Or, see this site for the Podolia records https://www.tkfgen.org/inventory_podolia_mb.html -- Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA
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Re: UNSURE IF THESE ARE NAMES !
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Elise Cundiff
The Brina in my family went by Blanche in the USA. My uncle was named for his great-grandfather Lazar, and was called Lawrence. So you see there are many examples to show that any name with the same first letter could have been chosen for use in America,
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Peninah Zilberman
Shalom Yehudah,
Tarbut Foundation has organized a few All Generations Gathering in the past 5 years in Marmaures. I came across a few Grünfeld and Greenfield, will send you introductions to your personal Email. Best regards Peninah
Peninah Zilberman Canada 1-416-781-0330 Romania + 40-74-414-5351 Israel 972-54-228-8141
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Re: UNSURE IF THESE ARE NAMES !
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Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
Leizer is short for Eliezer, a Hebrew male name. Cerne is probably Czarna (pronounced Charna, with a ch like in charm), a woman's name, from the Polish word for "black." Breine or the diminutive Braindl or similar is a Yiddish name for women, meaning "brown." Polish and Yiddish names were quite common among Jews, especially women, and not everyone had a Hebrew name. As far as what their English equivalents might have been, people who anglicized their names often chose something that sounded similar to the original, or started with the first letter/s of the original, but not always.
All the best, Miriam Bulwar David-Hay, Raanana, Israel.
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Re: UNSURE IF THESE ARE NAMES !
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jrsackerman@...
Leiser - nickname for Eliezer; Louis is a common corresponding English name but people sometimes chose a different name for some reason.
Cerne or Tserne often came out as Shirley or Cecilia in English but again people cold chose whatever name they liked.
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wadiuwant
I've decided during this Corona period to gradually outsource to the JewishGen readers the major brick walls in my family tree research. Here is the first one.
Elias Heimann DAHL and Sibilla MEYER had 12 children; 9 of them have available records showing their births, marriages, families and deaths. However 3 of the sisters only have birth records: Rosette DAHL, born 30 Apr 1842; Rosalia DAHL, born 5 Feb 1850; and Mathilde DAHL, born 7 Sep 1854. They were all born in Geilenkirchen, Germany. The Geilenkirchen archive has no further records relating to these sisters and they don't have graves in the Geilenkirchen Jewish cemetery. (Geilenkirchen is North of Aachen, close to the Dutch border.) There are no additional details and several years of online and direct enquiries have not uncovered additional information. Any assistance would be appreciated. Richard DAHL, Rehovot, Israel
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Re: At a dead end: searching for the siblings of Oskar Wurzel
#poland
Reinier
Thank you Sherri!
This is very helpful. Reinier
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(Scotland) Scotland's People Announced Due to Pandemic They are Unable to Process any Certificates
#unitedkingdom
Jan Meisels Allen
Scotland’s People, the government organization that provides vital records for Scotland, has announced with advice from the United Kingdom and Scottish government to delay the spread of the Corona virus has closed their search rooms in Edinburgh and stop production of all types of certificates an official extracts until further notice. The notice from the National Records of Scotland may be read at: https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/about-us/service-status.
There is also information in that notice allowing for registrars to take “remote” registration for deaths by telephone or electronic means. Registration of births has been temporarily suspended whilst registration offices are closed to the public.
Marriages and Civil Partnerships are not permitted during this time without a Schedule for which registrars have been instructed to stop during the pandemic.
While visiting the Soctlands’s People’s site you may find their records of interest: civil registers, church registers, census returns, valuation rolls, legal records and poor relief and migration records. You can search them free of charge and pay for copies using credits or vouchers. The exceptions to this are the Highlands and Islands Emigration records (within the 'Poor relief and migration records' category) and the 1881 LDS transcribed census records (within the 'Census returns' category). These can be searched and viewed for free. To see what you can do for free go to: https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/what-can-i-do-free
For information about fees for copies and certificates please see their charges page. https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/our-charges
Thank you to Jeanette Rosenberg MBE, JGS Great Britain, for sharing the information on Scotland’s People.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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