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Polish Archives - what can be expected? #poland

GEORGE MASON
 

I have just finished receiving a number of documents from the Latvian Archives, documents such as birth and marriage records and copies of passports with photographs. Given the extensive destruction that Warsaw experienced during World War 2, what kinds of records could I expect to find from a search of the Polish Archives for ancestors that lived in Warsaw from the 1880's through 1943? Would it be mostly birth, marriage, and death records, such as are already available on-line, or would they also have passports with photos and other types of documents? What is the best way to contact the Archives or go about finding out information about my ancestors there?
  
Thank You,   George Mason    <gmason3815@...>


Isaac LAZAROV-London /Jerusalem -early 20th cent. #unitedkingdom #israel #usa

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

According to a story in our family, my great great grandmother, Gittle
ABRAMOWITZ married , in a second marriage a gentleman from London,
Isaac LAZAROV (sp. ?) who was a widower (or divorcee) with over ten
children. It is said that he came to Jerusalem to find a wife and as
said above married my g.g.grandmother.

I'm not sure of the order of events but what is pretty sure that at
some point in her life she had lived in New Haven, Ct. It is said
that with LAZAROV she lived in Jerusalem. My guess is that it was
after her residence in New Haven.

Anyone recognize the above, Isaac LAZAROV. ?

TIA    Happy Israel Independence day       Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem   <yonibenari@...>


Joanne Brodkin #general

sjgwed@...
 

I am trying to contact Joanne Brodkin. Last week, she sent a short note to me through YouTube, and mentioned Tarnopol and Zbaraza.  I am hoping she is a member of Jewish Gen.
Please let me know how I might reach her. Thanks so much!

Susan J Gordon   <sjgwed@...>


PRITZKER/“STEPANIKA”,KIEV GUBERNIA/POLISH ESTATE #ukraine

Susan Miller
 

 

PRITZKER/“STEPANIKA”,KIEV GUBERNIA/POLISH ESTATE

 

Would appreciate any help in finding the location of a Polish estate where relatives lived.  They called the town “Steponika/Stepanika”, Kiev Gubernia.  They lived on the estate of a Polish count for whom their father, David Pritzker, worked as overseer of the sugar beet plantation and processing plant.  The family lived on the estate.  The lore is that the count bought the estate for his daughter, Alexandria, who was a child when the Pritzker’s worked there.

 

David’s sons took over the management in 1886 when David died.

-Ezreal

-Leibe

-Barney  
They immigrated to the U.S. from 1887-1905.

 

Thanks for any assistance in locating “Steponika/Stepanika”.

 

Susan Miller


Re: Brick wall locating Anna Goldman #poland #unitedkingdom

Greg Tuckman
 

Hi Dick,
Thanks for considering helping out!  I know just about everything there is to know about my grandfather, and I have Anna's birth certificate from Poland so I know her father's name.  Yes, the name matches her headstone plus she is buried in a family plot with numerous relatives, although not her husband or any children.
I'm trying to find out information about her children and grandchildren.  It is an entire branch that is not represented in my family history.
Thanks for any help!
Greg


Re: Malat / Moletai Landmanshaft in S. Africa #southafrica #lithuania

Jack Berger
 

There is a chapter devoted to Malat/Moletai in my recent translation of the Utyan/Utena Memorial Book.
These two locations were close enough together, that there may have been mention of relatives.
If you are interested, contact me only off list.

Jack Berger    jsberger@...


The Ohr LaShomayim & The Sh'loh HaKadosh #rabbinic

Sharon Galkin <sharongalkin@...>
 

I am trying to find a *definitive* source for the ancestry of the Ohr LaShomayim (Rabbi Meir Rottenberg of Apt), specifically whether he was a descendant of the Sh'loh HaKadosh. Much appreciated.
 
Sharon Galkin,   Baltimore, MD    <sharongalkin@...>


MISPELLED GT GRANDMOTHERS MARRIED NAME IN PREVIOUS POST #belarus #names #ukraine

Dhalford7@...
 

Still looking for any information about my gt grandmother.  Her name with second husband was Sarah or Sura Hanna or Chana Aurebach. 
First husband was Kalman Blackiroff or Blyiakheroff or Blyiakirov.  Last heard from in Mariupul by sea of asoz about 1918--1920.
Probably from Belarus or Ukraine.  
Any information or ideas are greatly appreciated.


genealogy forums in russian to overcome brick wall in research? #russia #ukraine

JUROVSKY,Catherine
 

I came to a brick wall sarching for my Yurovskii ancestors. They come from Lubny (in the Poltava region) which was the site of a mass shooting (no vital records or cemetry left
 Luckily I discovered on the Yad Vashem that one brother of my grand father Lazar, his wife Olga and their daughter Karina have been evacuated from Karakubstroy (now Ksomoslkye in the Dombass region) to Magnitogorsk in the Urals. I have tried to research them but to no avail (Ancestry, Myheritage, genanet....). A friend suggested the archives in Donetsk (closed for the time being).  I thought of genealogy forum in russian ? or else if anybody has an idea of a research tool. Any idea is welcome.

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Re: Avrum Geller #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Barbara Sontz
 

I am so sorry to hear this news.  My thoughts are with his family, who I know meant so much to him. 

Avrum really understood what community meant.  He was always eager to share and to teach. Early in my own work as a professional, he helped me to learn the ropes at the Municipal Archives and we spent a few nice post-research meals together. We once discovered that he had previously done work for a family that I was researching and he generously shared all of his research with me! 

He will be missed.  May his memory be a blessing.

Barbara Sontz
New York 


Re: Family Tree Chart Especially for Cousins etc. #general

Bernard Flam
 

Hello Joanne from lockdown in Paris,
Concerning names spelling, always remember that our ancestors left Yiddishland countries to other places : there, their name was phonetically transposed from Russian, Polish or Yiddish pronunciation to French, English, Italian or Spanish.
So branches of our familes got different spelling from same original names.
Your initial question was very interesting and you / we get a lot of amazing trees.
May I attach one mor from a DNA genealogy website.
Take care, abi gezunt
khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Workmen Circle) of France


Re: Is Bischofsburg Ostpreußen in the Town Finder the same place as "Bischofsburg Koenigsberg" #germany #poland

Jill Whitehead
 

Boundaries were very fluid in the past, due to wars, conquest etc. The area that was East Prussia around Olstyn/Allenstein went into Poland in 1945. When I visited my ancestral area in NE Poland in 2000 (Suwalki Lomza), with my husband and brother,  we had a look at some of the Prussian areas that went into Poland in 1945 in the vicinity of  Elk (formerly Lyck) and Gizycko, and the scenery and style of buildings were completely different to the Polish areas over the former border, even now. And the same is true for roads and rail - they still stop and go  N-S rather than E-W direction, due to now long-gone old borders.

However, the exception to this is Konigsberg itself. This became the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. Konigsberg/Kaliningrad was the centre for the football world cup when it was held in Russia a few years ago. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey  UK
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Re: Is Bischofsburg Ostpreußen in the Town Finder the same place as "Bischofsburg Koenigsberg" #germany #poland

Rodney Eisfelder
 

Joyaa,
I looked up Julius Gerson at https://www.mappingthelives.org
and it shows that he was born at Bischofsburg in 1899, but was living at Koenigsberg in 1939.
So "Bischofsburg-Koenigsberg" is two places, not one.
Bischofsburg, now known as Biskupiec was the town where my great-grandfather's siblings were all born. It was in Kreis Roessel (Rößel) but is now in Powiat Olsztynski (Allenstein)

By the way, mappingthelives shows that Erna Czerninski née Gerson as well as Jacob and Manfred Czerninski and Käte Bohm lived at the same address as Julius in 1939. Erna was born at Nikolaiken in 1895.

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia


Re: Avrum Geller #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Glenda Rubin
 

Very sad news. 
 
Avrum and I corresponded some 25 years ago about a possible Lenitz (aka Ilintsy) connection. 
 
My condolences to his family and the Jewish genealogy community.
 
Glenda Rubin. San Francisco Bay Area

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:19 AM Linda Cantor <lincanfamily@...> wrote:

It is with great sadness that I share with you the death of Avrum Geller after a long battle with cancer.  Avrum, a member of JGS (NY), was a professional genealogist, a volunteer in the Jewish community of New York, had been a member of JGS’ Executive Council, and was a frequent speaker at JGS's as well as at IAJGS conferences.  Most importantly he was a husband, son, father and grandfather to a loving family.

He was always willing to help others and had an amazing knowledge of genealogy and genealogical research, especially in New York City.  Avrum, we will all miss you.

Linda Cantor. for JGS,  NY


Seeking the SILBER family in London #unitedkingdom

Neil Rosenstein
 

Trying to make contact with the Silver (originally Zilber) family who
settled in London. Abraham Silber (1940-2020) was married to Rikel
Breuer was the son of R. Dr. Mordechai Zvi Silber, born in Radzinow in
1909, PhD (Vienna), ABD Novy Sad/Ujridek until WWII and Mordechai was
son of Yaakov Zilber of Dzikov, descendants of the Horowitz family
from Piotrkow.

Neil Rosenstein <neilrosenstein@...> 
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Re: How can I find NYC naturalization papers with only the record number? #general

A. E. Jordan
 

 
Here's a sort of primer on naturalization records for New York City.
 
Naturalizations in the New York City area happened either in the Federal or State courts up until the 1920s.  The Federal courts were the Eastern District which is in Brooklyn and the Southern district which is in Manhattan.  There's also a Northern district north of the City.
 
The State courts are named the Supreme Court and there was a location in each of the boroughs.
 
Here's where it gets challenging.  There was no residency requirement meaning you could live in Brooklyn but work in Manhattan and so you decided it was easier to go to the Manhattan court to file your papers or any combination of courts.  Also there was no rule that I am aware of the governed going to the State vs. Federal court.
 
And to make it even more challenging in some rare instances the person started the process in one court and then moved and decided it as easier to finish the process in another court closed to where they now lived.  To use a 21st century term, the naturalization was portable.  As a matter of fact I was jut helping someone last week who had the declaration number for their ancestor and when we pulled up the online record attached to the declaration is a letter saying a duplicate had been made and when you look at the two you see he was in Manhattan when he started the process but was in Brooklyn when he was requesting the copy which leads to he assumption he finished it in the Brooklyn courts.
 
Ancestry, FamilySearch, Fold3, the Italian and German gen pages all have indexing to parts of the naturalization process.  I personally like the Italian/German gen index but you have to search all of them sometimes.
 
The 1925 NY State Census asked people what court they have naturalized in so you often find little notes on the names but of course it is not always accurate.
 
Also on the later passenger lists you often find a notation with the date and a number that is a clue to when and where the person naturalized.  I had one several years ago and no one seemed capable of deciphering it including NARA.  Marion Smith ended up helping me and it turned out the man had done his naturalization in Westchester County.
 
FamilySearch had a lot more of the naturalization papers from NYC than what they have indexed.  The images are loaded but you have to manually search the files using the petition number.  An easy way to see what exists is go to the National Archives NYC website and click on their naturalization records.    It will bring up a table called "Our Holdings" and on the far right side is a link that generally jumps to the files on FamilySearch.  Thee good news --- although it is years away -- NARA is funding a project to digitize more of the local court records from the State courts.
 
Most of the local courts will do mail order copies (once of course the current public health crisis is lifted) if you can not find the record online at one of the databases mentioned above.  In Manhattan the original books are sitting on the shelves of the old court record room (7th floor in the same building as the Municipal Archives)  and they let you pull them out and take photos on your phone.  Hidden away on the 8th floor and the supervisor has to get it are the original ledger index books and he also has the originals of cases where people did a declaration but never came back to do a petition.  Those incomplete files are in separate books from the ones where the person completed the process. 
 
NARA also will do copies but normally when you go to NARA in NYC (they are closed due to the health crisis) they will first point you to the computer resources I am mentioning here.  NARA NYC has the original paper files for the records after the digital indexes so if it is post-World War II for example you need to get it from them on paper.  If you go in person they only pull records hourly a few times a day but the charge is only 25 cents a page but has to be paid by credit card .... they stopped handling cash years ago.
 
Allan Jordan
 


Russian translation #translation #russia

Laufer, Shmuel
 

I need a translation of my Russian grandfather's attached marriage certificate. 
Names, places and dates.
Thanks in advance.

Shmuel Laufer

Rehovot -Israel

 

Research: Laufer (Przasnysz, Poland); Domb (Pultusk, Poland); Bruckman (Sarnaki, Poland); Zelazo (Sarnaki, Poland); Preschel (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine), Leder (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine); Schnap (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine); Mitelman (Chelm, Poland); Tenerman (Dubienka, Poland)

 

 


Re: Photo in Pre-WW II Hungarian passport #hungary

allenhausman@...
 

I have my grandfather's original paper passport issued by the Kingdom of Hungary in 1911 in Nagykaroly that he used to travel to New York in 1912.  It does not include a photograph.  His village of Tirsolt (was Tartolcz, Hungary) is near the Romanian city of Satu Mare (formerly Szatmar, Hungary).

Allen HAUSMAN
Bonita Springs, FL, USA
Researching IZSAK and MILLER


ViewMate translation request - French #translation #france

Fred Half
 
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I've posted a death record in French of Ursula HALFF for which I need a translation. I am especially interested in the name of the mother. It is on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM79439. Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. 
 
Fred
 
Fred Half ,   Palo Alto, CA USA    fredhalf@...


ViewMate Russian Translation #Russia, #translation

mamabirdlouise@...
 
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Translation of the birth of Jojna Goldsztern in 1899, possibly in Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Terespol, Pizszac or even Brisk/Brest.  I don't need word-for-word but details such as names, dates, locations, occupations, and so on are very helpful as I try to sort out the various family members.  Jojna may be a nephew of my late grandfather's.
--
Louise Goldstein mamabirdlouise@...

Researching GOLDSTEIN/GOLDSZTERN, BRANDT, WOLOCH, HERSZENFELD (Terespol, Piszczac, Poland; Brest, Belarus); https://familyhistorieslouise.com/

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