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Family Tree of the Jewish People
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Amy Federman
I am a historian who worked for many years for the Jewish Historical Society of Greater Washington and the National Park Service. My husband and I have been working on both of our family's histories. We have compiled a great deal of data and now are looking at ways to set up the data into a family tree format. We had used Family Tree Maker when we did the previous work c. 2003-2004. We understand now that program isn't available anymore and so are looking at some new vehicles. We are also trying to connect to your incredible work as part of Family Tree of the Jewish People, where we may find connections beyond our great grandparents on my side who came from Europe. My husband's family came through the Shoah with many losses, but we have been interested in finding connections predating that time as well.
Any suggestions would be incredibly helpful and also ways to outline our next steps.
Thank you in advance for your assistance, Amy Federman
402 Ellsworth Drive
Silver Spring, MD 20910
301-585-0272
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Milton
I'm afraid that you are misinterpreting the information on the manifest (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNX5-BTP ): the 1907+ manifests run two pages. On the first page of Chaje's manifest, column 12 is the name of the friend or relative back in the "old country" -- this is Schmuel MITSCHNER, still back in Elisavetgrad in 1923. The pre-1907 one-page manifests did not ask this question. Column 19 on the second page indicates that Chaje is going to join her son-in-law, Emanuel RESNIKOFF at 2159 Morris Ave, NYC. There are several records for Emanuel RESNIKOFF on FamilySearch, including a marriage record for Eleanor REED, who is the daughter of Emanuel RESNIKOFF and "Batrae DICKOFF" and is likely the granddaughter of Chaje DICKOVSKY. Regards, David Oseas Researching: HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles KRONOWITH: Hungary > New York OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles SCHECHTER/SHEKTER: Kishinev, Bessarabia > New York SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles STRUL: Iasi, Romania > Haifa, Israel WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
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Translation of the Memorial Book of Kobylnik, Belarus at reduced price
#belarus
#yizkorbooks
Joel Alpert
Memorial Book of Kobylnik - Narach (Kobylnik), Belarus Translation of Sefer Kobylnik Yizkor Books in Print is happy to make this book available at severely reduced pricing by ordering through JewishGen List price: $53.95, available from JewishGen for $35 For more information and directions for ordering go to: https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_narach.html Go toward the bottom of the page below "Available at:" for the link to start your order. For information on the other 95 other Yizkor book we publish, go to: https://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/ybip.html Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-in-Print Project
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Mystery of my Makler Family (Vilna to Boston)
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Corey Brand
Hi. My great-great-grandmother was Elizabeth Lizzie Makler Weiner, from Vilna, lived in Boston, and later a suburb called Revere. Her name per her grave is Etil Leah (עטיל לאה) bat Dov. Her father was Barnett/Barnard, but it seems he couldn’t pronounce that, or read/write, and his grave says Bannet Mackler (also Lizzie‘s son’s grave, who is named for him, says Berel). His grave reads Dov bar Israel, and his death certificate says his father is Israel and his mother is Etta Michaelson (possibly Etil Leah?). The mother was Badane bat Hoshea Hirshel, per the grave, and the daughter of Hirshel and Ida Bisofsky, per the death certificate. Lizzie had two brothers, Harry Makler and Dr. Moses Makller, and a sister, Ida Makler Raymond. The life expectancy in this family was terrible, most not outliving 55. Harry’s grave reads Eliezer Hesel ben Dov (I thought Harry was named for her father, but I now don’t know). Moses’ does not say a Hebrew name. I do not have a picture of Ida’s grave, but I can see hers a couple rows behind Lizzie’s, but blocked.
Now the confusing part… There was an Abraham/Abram Makler (later Maklar) and family residing at the same address, from 1894 to 1899, when he moved to Providence just in time for the 1900 Census. I was able to track his Mekler Family to Paberze (Podberezhe), near Vilna, through LitvakSIG. I found a lot of his extended family recorded on LitvakSIG, in Paberze and Vilna, spelled Mekler, but it does not seem like Bannet, my direct ancestor, was a brother or cousin of Abraham’s. Abraham’s wife Anna (Nechama) died in 1917, and her Rhode Island Death Certificate says she is the daughter of Israel and Rose Chicoff. I found that there are many residents of Paberze and Vilna called Tsikhok, Tsikhov, Tsikhon, and so on. The LitvakSIG records for Abraham and Anna’s children says Israel for two of them, but the third says Itsko. I don’t know of this is a mistake or her father had two names. I know where Anna is buried, but I have yet to receive a picture of her grave. Abraham and Anna’s children: Isaak, born 1885 in Vilna, not recorded on passenger lists so assume he died in infancy. Rasya or Rose, born 1887 Vilna Musya or Ida, born 1889 Vilna Samuel born 1898, Boston Now the more confusing part… Harry and Moses said they were from Vilna per their naturalizations, and Lizzie’s husbands naturalization said she was from Wilno. Makes sense. But Harry said he immigrated 7 June 1892 to Boston, from Liverpool, on an unknown ship. Moses said he immigrated 10 June 1892, Liverpool to Boston, unknown ship. On the censuses, the four siblings and the parents give a whole bunch of dates, all in the 1890s, for when they arrived in the US. I had been unable to find the passenger lists, but I just found a list that could be it. 10 June 1893, sailing from Rotterdam, on the ship called Rotterdam, to New York. Berl Sico, lawyer, from Russia, that’s all the information wife Chase/Chaje children Mendel, Moses, Badan/Baden, and Chajen/Chajem. (Just to note, Ancestry has the surname spelled Sies, but Steve Morse has it Sico, and after comparing the letters, I think it’s Sico). Sico could be a bad interpretation of Tsikhok, Tsikhov, Tsikhon, etc. So can this be them? Can their names recorded in the passenger lists vary this much? Can the mother’s name be listed as the daughter’s? And etc. Is there any proof Harry and Moses needed to naturalize? I know the certificates of arrival started in 1906, but was there anything before that? Any records for immigrants going from NY to Boston? The father Bannet was not naturalized, and worked as a tailor. He is first recorded in 1894 in the Boston Directory, along with Abraham. The Sico Family is twice recorded in the Russians to America Index. But it does say they hailed from Isac, Russia there. It does not say this in the passenger lists. So where did they get that from? Also Isac isn’t a place as far as I can tell. I will attach some important documents. Any incite is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Corey Brand Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Re: JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jungreis(z) dynasty
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S R
Those are two different people with the same name.
The last Rav in Csenger before WWII was Rav Asher Anshel Jungreis. His wife was Sarah Zaltzer who was a daughter of Rabbi David Zaltzer. A.A. Jungreis: https://www.geni.com/people/%D7%A8-%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%A8-%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%96-A-B-D-Csenger/6000000034166335815 Sarah: https://www.geni.com/people/Sarah-Jungreisz/6000000004590829902?through=6000000034166335815 David Zaltzer: https://www.geni.com/people/%D7%93%D7%95%D7%93-%D7%96%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%A6%D7%A2%D7%A8/6000000005406172321?through=6000000004590829902#/tab/overview Where did you see that he was ABD Czager?
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Finding Julia MASNICKA in Israel
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Felissa Lashley
I have just received information regarding the until now unknown descendants of my grandfather's sister Malya DROBITSKY and her husband Aron ZATULOVSKY/ZATULOFSKY. Their grandson, Boris and his wife Galina, had a child Julia MASNICKA who is somewhere around 50 years of age and was known to have emigrated from Russia to Israel in the not too distant past. I very much need help to try to contact her. Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide. You have all been so wonderful for help provided in the past for which I am very grateful!!
Felissa Lashley
Austin, Texas
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Re: What or where is Divirol
#names
6085300@...
In this letter, אין די בריף
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Re: What or where is Divirol
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Lorraine Rosengarten
Try putting the Hebrew letters for the town in Google and see if you get any hits.
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Re: What or where is Divirol
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schwartzeli115@...
i'm leaning towards dovoreh and דבורה דבוריל
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Re: Slovakia deportations: Volunteers needed
#general
Barbara Kenzer
I would love to help. Barbara Kenzer
On Sun, May 3, 2020, 8:50 AM <ytimna@...> wrote: I can help as well
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Re: Hebrew name question
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schwartzeli115@...
it can also mean המ"י המבין יבין an abbreviation as to say the one i'm referring to will know who they are
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Re: Slovakia deportations: Volunteers needed
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schwartzeli115@...
i can help
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Paulo A Abrahamsohn
My grandfather Alexander Abrahamsohn and his brother Robert were born in Velikye Luki, Russia. Eventually they moved to Tuetz (West Prussia), presently Tuczno (Poland). Robert emigrated to the US and lived in Portland, Oregon. I heard from my father that in 1905 he visited his brother Alexander in Berlin. Since then we know almost nothing about him and about his offspring. A search on the Federal Census of 1920 gave the following: Robert Abrahamson, wife Anna, daughter Pearl. Any information would make me very happy. I thank you in advance. Paulo Alexandre Abrahamsohn. Sao Paulo. Brazil. <paulo.abrahamsohn@...>
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Re: What or where is Divirol
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Butch Hill
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 09:09 AM, Dr.Josef ASH wrote:
My family is from the Minsk Gubernia. The woman writing on the back of the photo was my grandfather's sister. My grandfather and his brother both married women from Swerznie. So, I suspect the brothers were originally in that vicinity. The location of Dvorets for a sister fifteen years after their immigration is reasonable. Thanks very much!
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Re: What or where is Divirol
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
There are a list of possibles in the Jewishgen Gazetteer. Take a look to see what you like, using 'sounds like'. If you have an idea where it was, you can whittle down the list.
The gazetteer is great, as it has every little town in it, and lots of Jews lived in little towns. The Jewish Communities Database has only the major Jewish communities.
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ
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Re: Hessen Gatermann database
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Ernst-Peter Winter
Users of the Germany databases may have noticed that links > to the images associated with the Hessen Gatermanndatabase > are going to a blank viewer screen, not the desired page.> ...> In the meantime, note that the images can be accessed via> https://www.lagis-hessen.de/en/subjects/index/sn/pstr. I regret that my mails dated 1 Nov. 2019 and 20 April 2020 to info@... did not reach the responsible persons. The text shows the procedure how to get directly to the images: >the links from "The Hessen Gatermann Index" to the images at the Hessisches Haupt-Staatsarchiv Wiesbaden are broken. > >old: ... =http%3A//digitalisate.hadis.hessen.de/ ... >new: ... =https://digitalisate-he.arcinsys.de/ ... > >for example: ><http://dfg-viewer.de/show/?set[image]=55&set[mets]=http%3A//digitalisate.hadis.hessen.de/hhstaw/365/12.xml> > >changed to: ><http://dfg-viewer.de/show/?set[image]=55&set[mets]=https://digitalisate-he.arcinsys.de/hhstaw/365/12.xml> Kind regards Ernst-Peter Winter Münster (Hessen)
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Re: Slovakia deportations: Volunteers needed
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ytimna@...
I can help as well
Yariv
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Israelitische Erziehungs- und Unterrichtsanstalt - Jewish Day School in Würzburg, Germany
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seth@...
Does anyone have information about the above Jewish school in Würzburg, where my father studied in the years 1928-31? The school operated until 1938, and I am looking for school records, which are hopefully archived somewhere.
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FERTEL /Gisser from the Ukrain
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Jana.Tegel@...
I am searching for my relatives from the Ukraine. The names are FERTEL and GISSER from Shepetovka, 1910- 1930), KUSCHNIR (from Polonnoye, the same years or before), MOLDOVANSKIY from Belaya Tserkov.
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Re: What or where is Divirol
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Dr.Josef ASH
I would read the last letter not Lame"d but Tsad"i.
and I have found a place Dvorets, in Grodno goubernia ~120 km WS to Grodno and ~ 160 km S to Vilno. Does it do for your family origin? Josef ASH, Israel
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