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Deciphering Meisels -Perlmutter marriage act (1888)
#translation
#poland
Alberto Guido Chester
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a deciphering and translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM80706 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Polish Genealogical Word List
#poland
Alberto Guido Chester
Just to share an interesting file on Polish words and their translation to English, found by chance.
Hope this helps
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Re: Bankruptcy: Louis BLOOM Rochester, NY
#usa
A. E. Jordan
Bankruptcy files are going to be with the court but based on the age they could be in storage or at the National Archives.
Start by contacting the court records room and asking them about the files. You may need to go there or pay them to do a search to find the file number. Based on date and the file number will impact where it is stores.
You could also check the courts website or do an online search.
https://www.nywd.uscourts.gov/
I know in New York City a lot of the old personal bankruptcy cases were ultimately stored at the NARA location I think outside St Louis. If you have the file number and are willing to pay the file can be brought back to the court or else someone has to request it from NARA and go there and read it. Maybe you will get lucky and upstate will be easier.
Allan Jordan
-----Original Message-----
From: The Becker's Email <ronjohanna@...> To: main@... Sent: Tue, May 5, 2020 11:11 am Subject: [JewishGen.org] Bankruptcy: Louis BLOOM Rochester, NY #usa I found an article in the Rochester, NY Democrat and Chronicle newspaper for Sept. 15, 1933, p.21 as follows:
"Voluntary petitions in bankruptcy were filed in United States District Court yesterday by Louis Bloom, tailor, of 529 Conkey Avenue, listing liabilities of $31,646.57, assets of $250 and secured claims of $9,500...." Where do I find more information? This is my husband's grandfather. Johanna Becker Newport, RI
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Re: Traduccion de acta
#translation
lsragovicz@...
Marcelo, Te lo puedo traducir si quieres con gusto, español - ingles. (I can help you translate if you still need it)
-- Lia Sragovicz
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Re: Traduccion de acta
#translation
lsragovicz@...
I can help translate spanish - english if you need it.
-- Lia Sragovicz
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Re: Searching for Richard PARLIMAN (?) my Jewish Grandfather#latinamerica
lsragovicz@...
Hi Karen. I live in bogota right now, if I can be of help. You can email me at Lsragovicz@... and tell me more.
We are a small community so it might be fairly easy to get info. -- Lia Sragovicz
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Re: Fogery: Garson KUGEL, Rochester, NY
#general
Sherri Bobish
Johanna,
Try this free site for old digitized newspapers: https://fultonhistory.com/ It began as NY State only, but has expanded to newspapers of other states. Also, from the site https://www2.monroecounty.gov/clerk-records.php "The Monroe County Clerk’s Office is the source for criminal records filed by the New York State Supreme and Monroe County Courts. Only felony convictions are filed in the Monroe County Clerk’s Office." Perhaps once the Covid lockdown is over you can contact The Monroe County Clerk's Office and ask if they retain records from that time period. Regards, Sherri Bobish Princeton, NJ
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Fw: FURTHER TO my inquiry yesterday Re: Searching for my Grandparents and Great-Grandparents in Hungary
#hungary
Amy Winter <amy.winter@...>
The maternal side of the family (Weisz and Mandel) were from Beregszász near Ukraine. HusbandAvrum Josef Weisz
DaughterHelen
and
WifeHana Weisz (born Mandel)
DaughterHelen
and
Grandfather
BirthCirca 1872 - Hungary
DeathAfter 1940 - Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States
WifeHelen Strauss (born Weiss)
DaughterJennie
Jennie is my mother. I have found no Hungarian records for Adalbert (or Adelbert) Strauss but have some of his US census records, US naturalization and immigration papers.
The Winter/Friedman/Braun/Schafer side of the family (I forgot to list "Winter" as a family name) were from
Regina Winter (born Friedman)
Grandmother
BirthAug 30 1877 - Hatvan, Heves County, Hungary
ParentsSamuel Friedman and Fanny (born Braun) Freedman (Friedman)
SiblingsArthur O., Anna, Harry and Ema
HusbandWilliam W(olf?) Winter
ChildrenCharlotte, Sidney, Oscar, Ruth, Margaret, Edward A., Beatrice and Ezra Paul
Samuel Winter
Great-grandfather
Birth1852 - Miskolc, Miskolci, Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén County, Hungary
Death1877 - Miskolc, Miskolci, Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén County, Hungary
WifeAdele Winter (born Schafer)
ChildrenWilliam W(olf?), William, Bernard (Bertzi), Julia, Johnanna (Honey) and Louis
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Grandfather
Birth1870 - Hungary
DeathAug 21 1950 - Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States
ParentsSamuel Friedman and Fanny (born Braun) Freedman (Friedman)
SiblingsArthur O., Anna, Harry and Ema
HusbandWilliam W(olf?) Winter
ChildrenCharlotte, Sidney, Oscar, Ruth, Margaret, Edward A., Beatrice and Ezra Paul
William Wolf Winter (Grandfather) was said to be an orphan and immigrated to the US at age 16. I have his Immigration document showing that as well as other US documents (Naturalization, Census). Ezra Paul Winter was my father.
However, I have an updated family tree from the (amateur) genealogist which I am trying to re-access. Some of the surnames were confused, so I will send that once I have it again. Here is what he said:
In your original records you stated that ’Adel’ Schaffer was married to Samuel Winter and she died in 1872 in Miskolc.
Fani Schaffer is a woman married to Samuel Winter and she died in Miskolc in 1872. So it looks like she is Adel.
She can not be a sister to Fani as they could not have been married to the same woman the same time.
It is also possible Adel was a first marriage to Samuel in another rabbinate whose records we can not see and died before the marriage of Samuel to Fani. IT would be absolutely logical for a widowed man to marry a sister of the first wife.
Please check your sources, what says Adel and why did you have her death in Miskolc in 1872.
Also, two of the daughters, Julia and Johanna were sent to Shanghai to escape and their names appear on a memorial tablet in the Shanghai synagogue, which I have a copy of.
Thanks so much...and I look forward to hearing from you...even prior to sending this updated tree.
Amy Winter
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Re: Headstone Translation
#translation
Chayim Fried
Tzvi and Hertz are not the same name, it only sounds similar to Hersh, but it is not the same and it is possible for a father and son to have tzvi and Hertz at the same time
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FURTHER TO my inquiry yesterday Re: Searching for my Grandparents and Great-Grandparents in Hungary
#hungary
Amy Winter <amy.winter@...>
The maternal side of the family (Weisz and Mandel) were from Beregszász near Ukraine.
HusbandAvrum Josef Weisz
DaughterHelen
and
WifeHana Weisz (born Mandel)
DaughterHelen
and
Grandfather
BirthCirca 1872 - Hungary
DeathAfter 1940 - Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States
WifeHelen Strauss (born Weiss)
DaughterJennie
Jennie is my mother. I have found no Hungarian records for Adalbert (or Adelbert) Strauss but have some of his US census records, US naturalization and immigration papers.
The Winter/Friedman/Braun/Schafer side of the family (I forgot to list "Winter" as a family name) were from
Regina Winter (born Friedman)
Grandmother
BirthAug 30 1877 - Hatvan, Heves County, Hungary
ParentsSamuel Friedman and Fanny (born Braun) Freedman (Friedman)
SiblingsArthur O., Anna, Harry and Ema
HusbandWilliam W(olf?) Winter
ChildrenCharlotte, Sidney, Oscar, Ruth, Margaret, Edward A., Beatrice and Ezra Paul
Samuel Winter
Great-grandfather
Birth1852 - Miskolc, Miskolci, Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén County, Hungary
Death1877 - Miskolc, Miskolci, Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén County, Hungary
WifeAdele Winter (born Schafer)
ChildrenWilliam W(olf?), William, Bernard (Bertzi), Julia, Johnanna (Honey) and Louis
and
Grandfather
Birth1870 - Hungary
DeathAug 21 1950 - Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States
ParentsSamuel Friedman and Fanny (born Braun) Freedman (Friedman)
SiblingsArthur O., Anna, Harry and Ema
HusbandWilliam W(olf?) Winter
ChildrenCharlotte, Sidney, Oscar, Ruth, Margaret, Edward A., Beatrice and Ezra Paul
William Wolf Winter (Grandfather) was said to be an orphan and immigrated to the US at age 16. I have his Immigration document showing that as well as other US documents (Naturalization, Census). Ezra Paul Winter was my father.
However, I have an updated family tree from the (amateur) genealogist which I am trying to re-access. Some of the surnames were confused, so I will send that once I have it again.
Also, two of the daughters, Julia and Johanna were sent to Shanghai to escape and their names appear on a memorial tablet in the Shanghai synagogue, which I have a copy of.
Thanks so much...and I look forward to hearing from you...even prior to sending this updated tree.
Amy Winter
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Re: Seeking descendants of eleven LIEBOWITZ children who settled in Toronto, New York and New Jersey
#usa
jbonline1111@...
More information would be very helpful. I have some NY Liebowitz families in my tree, but without first names and/or other data, it's impossible to say if they are the ones you are looking for.
-- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC
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Differences between Russian and Hebrew texts in 19th century vital records in Russian Empire
#belarus
#russia
#translation
Shlomo Gurevich
The most of vital records of Jewish births, marriages and deaths issued in Russian Empire appear in two languages – Russian and Hebrew. Sometimes, there are differences between Russian and Hebrew parts of the record. If the researcher takes into account only one part, he is risking to miss valuable information that the other part may contain. Mostly, Russian text lacks mention of person’s belonging to Cohen or Levi tribe, which Hebrew text generally contains. Sometimes, the person’s second name, place of residence, occupation or last name is omitted. Hebrew text often contains various abbreviations meaning that the person is a son of a rabbi, or is dead, etc. Therefore, when ordering the scanned images of vital records at the archives on the territory of former Russian Empire, one should stress that he wants the two parts of the record. If asking for help with translation, it is preferable to choose experienced translator, who knows both languages. More details on this issue including examples from the Mogilev vital records can be found at my website at http://shl2gur.tripod.com/Differences-Russian-Hebrew.pdf Shlomo Gurevich Hoshaya, Israel shl2gur@...
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Re: Please help deciphering and translating two related documents in German on Poland
#translation
allina.r@...
My husband, Jim, speaks German as his family came from Austria. His cousin lives inGermany and grew up in Austria. Would either of these 2 be helpful?
Roz Bornheim-Allina
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Re: Kopyl (Kapule)
#belarus
My grandfather, David (Peker) Becker came from Kapule to Sioux City in 1910, ultimately moving to Milwaukee where there used to be a “Kapule Group” which, I believe, has since disbanded. I was told that people from Kapule primarily immigrated to Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota.
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Re: Headstone Translation
#translation
fredelfruhman
If you have other gravestones, may I suggest that you post them on the ViewMate page. It was created for that purpose, and is really the best way to get a gravestone translated. Here is my reading: ========================== At the top of the stone, inside the Star of David, a two-letter abbreviation meaning “Here lie” ========================== Right side: Dear mother and beloved grandmother LEAH BLOCK of the house of SELTZER [in other words, this was her maiden name] Died on the 17th of Kislev, 5730 [not 5760, as someone else read] May her soul be bound up in the bond of life. [This stone is a bit unusual, in that it does not include the Hebrew name of her father. It does include her last name and her maiden name, which is also a bit unusual. As to the date of death: the 17th of Kislev, 5730, began at sunset on November 26th, 1969, and ended at sunset on the 27th. The stone gives the secular date as being the 26th. This means that she passed away between sunset and midnight on the 26th]. ========================== Left side: Reb TZVI, son of Reb Hertz died the 9th of Tamuz, 5723 May his soul be bound up in the bond of life. [‘Reb’ is an honorific; it does not mean rabbi. As to the date of death: the 9th of Tamuz, 5723, began at sunset on June 30th, 1963, and ended at sunset on July 1st. The stone gives the secular date as being June 30th. Here, again, it makes it possible to narrow down the time of death to between sunset and midnight on the 30th.] --Fredel Fruhman Brooklyn, New York, USA
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Morton Rumberg
Karen Sanders wrote: >In another manifest, my grandmother, Bacie Siberdi, was listed at "Basic Liberty." I have no idea how they got that so wrong.<
It's easy to get it wrong. Actually, I suspect the interpretation is by the reader of the handwriting. People using script often write some letters that look very similar to others. In this case the s and c and e of the given name look enough alike to misinterpret. I‘m sure the same thing happened with the surname: Capitol S and L can look alike as can the di and ty, depending on how carefully the name was written. I am a transcriber for some of the old records and it is amazing how language/handwriting gets so garbled. You have to be extremely careful interpreting each letter. Mort Rumberg Sacramento CA area
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Re: Looking for info on the MYERS family in West London
#unitedkingdom
Michael Hoffman
Hello Claire,
Access the JCR-UK database on Jewishgen and do a search for your MYERS Family, pay particular attention to looking for then in the Anglo Jewish Database 1851 and then look for them in the other datasets. Best regards, Michael Hoffman Borehamwood HERTS UK
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Fogery: Garson KUGEL, Rochester, NY
#general
The Becker's Email
The Rochester, NY Democrat and Chronicle newspaper on June 9, 1929,p. 25 had an article "Youth Accused of Cashing $50 Forged Check" The man arrested Garson KUGEL was my husband's grandfather's youngest brother. I could not find any follow-up articles and would like to find out if he was found guilty and, if so, the details of his conviction. Where should I look? My source for this article was newspapers.com
Johanna Becker Newport, RI
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Re: Family Tree of the Jewish People
#general
davide@...
Dear Amy,
I also attempted to build a personal family tree. I was very satisfied in using the "GenoPro" software. It was right what I needed, easy to use, intuitive, quick for amendments, and easily building even the most complicate inter-personal connections you can find among family members. Other than the tree graphical aspect, it is possible to add lots of information, photo, documents, etc., for any person listed. It also allows building several different trees (e.g. one for any branch of a family), linking the same person in each tree. Not the least, you also have the possibility to organise all the data of people involved in a table format, ordered for any detail entered. Davide Csermely Italy (davide@...)
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Bankruptcy: Louis BLOOM Rochester, NY
#usa
The Becker's Email
I found an article in the Rochester, NY Democrat and Chronicle newspaper for Sept. 15, 1933, p.21 as follows:
"Voluntary petitions in bankruptcy were filed in United States District Court yesterday by Louis Bloom, tailor, of 529 Conkey Avenue, listing liabilities of $31,646.57, assets of $250 and secured claims of $9,500...." Where do I find more information? This is my husband's grandfather. Johanna Becker Newport, RI
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