Re: Looking for info on the MYERS family in West London #unitedkingdom

Joyaa Antares

Hi Group,

I am responding to Claire Mitchell, who wrote: “
Hello!  I am trying to find out any information on the MYERS family who lived at 128 Brompton Road, London The parents were George b. 1838 and Mary b. 1841 and there were 3 sons Godfrey b. 1879, Morris b. 1868 & Samuel b. 1859 who as far as I can tell never married and all stayed living as bachelors with their parents.  I think there were some more siblings but these are the ones I know about. If anyone has any information I would be very appreciative!”.

With the astonishing flurry of messages on the SIG coming through every day now, I missed & deleted the post so I am extremely grateful to Eleanor Richmond’s reply, without which this would have passed me by.  I bring this to the group’s attention because with the increasing number of messages appearing under a single all-encompassing group, I am concerned that we may see similar problems in the future.  I don’t have a solution to offer but am flagging this for skilled facilitators’ attentions.

Claire – I am very excited to report that Godfrey, Morris and Samuel were my 2x great uncles.  There were 16 siblings in the family, many of whom died young.  Their brother, Dick (aka Lazarus) was my great grandfather.  Please write to me privately.
Eleanor – Myers is a very common name.  I am not aware of this Canadian connection … but who knows?  

Best regards to all,

Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
Researching ZAUSMER, ZOUSMER, ZESMER, CHOUSMER, CHAUSMER, TSOUZMER etc, MARCUS, DAVIDOFF in Polangen, Kretinga, Darbenai, Libau, Riga, Memel
SCHORR, SCHERZER, JURIS and DAWID in Buckaczowce, Ottynia, Nadworna, and Kolomyya
ZUNDER in Buckaczowce and Ivano-Frankivsk
KEMPNER in Berlin, Lodz, Warszawa and London   …. and MYERS and MOSES/MANSELL!!
LEVY, BADER in Berlin, Schwerin, Friedeberg


ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Kenneth Berger

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much. I do appreciate it
Ken Berger

Re: IOFE family, Vieksniai, Lithuania, Revision List errors? #lithuania


Basic Soundex rules explain that P V B and F are equivalent letters, substituted for each other so often that one symbol is used for all four letters.  When I search JewishGen for Vein, Fein’s also show up. Vowels are even slipperier.  IOFE and Iopa are basically identical.  The shape of the letter does not matter.  The name is spoken to the census taker and he writes what he hears.
Have fun!
Fred Millner

NY's Jewish cemeteries and the Covid crisis #usa #general

Renee Steinig

Responding to Tamara Hallos's request for photos from Mount Zion and Mount Hebron Cemeteries in Queens, Susan Beecher <s_beecher@...> wrote:

<<The staff there are very willing to do this for you. My friend had them do this for her family members. I think they ask for a donation....>>

Please be aware that this is not a good time to direct inquiries or requests to New York metropolitan area cemeteries, which are currently dealing with burials of Covid victims. Some have shortened their hours or close after the last scheduled burial of the day. 
Also, all cemetery offices are closed to visitors; only funeral directors are admitted. So should you plan to visit a cemetery, be sure to have grave locations and print out a map before leaving home. 
A good source for maps is Steve Lasky's website:

Grave locations are available on the websites of a number of NY area cemeteries: Beth Moses, Montefiore, Mount Ararat, Mount Carmel, Mount Hebron, Mount Judah, Mount Lebanon, Mount Zion, New Montefiore, Wellwood. 
Renee Steinig
Dix Hills NY

Re: Need help finding records of great-grandfather TESZLER from Romania/Hungary #hungary #romania

Beth Long

Which Teszler is this? I see a Heinrich and a Zisman living in Cluj in 1924 (they were born in Visó)

ViewMate translation request - One Yiddish and One Hebrew #yiddish #lithuania #translation

Michael Herzlich

I've posted two handwritten notes for which I need translations.

One in Hebrew is on ViewMate at the following address -

A second in Yiddish is on ViewMate at the following address -
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

The notes, on the back of photo cards are from the album of a person related to the following families from the area near Merkine Lithuania:

Thank you,
Michael Herzlich
Delray Beach, Florida USA

Galicia (Poland, Ukraine) - HERZLICH, TREIBER


malcolm katz

There is an Emanuel Bernstein born 1900 coming up in Mile End which is that area.
Also British Seaman would be registered and may have records in the UK national archives or contact the Naval archives at Greenwich London.

Good luck,
Malcolm Katz

Re: Need help finding records of great-grandfather TESZLER from Romania/Hungary #hungary #romania


Thank you so much, Peninah!

I'll check the Baia Mare archives (can't remember if I have already) and the Facebook page.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find them in the Borsa Yizkor book.

Re: Fisher Headstone Translation #translation

Chuck Weinstein

Alexander was his secular name. There is no connection between the names.  He could have been Eliyahu or he could have been Sender or some other variant of Alexander.

Chuck Weinstein

Re: Fisher Headstone Translation #translation

malcolm katz

Hello David,
I agree with the Hebrew translation, but not the Alexander name adoption theory, my grandmother was surname Alexander and in Poland the surname Alexanderowicz going back to around 1800, Alexanderowicz simply means 'of Alexander', my understanding is yes it is a very Western name, but Alexander the Great was much admired by old time Jews as he was considered a friend and protector and many Jews in the 18th and 19th Century were name Alexander long before they came to Western countries.
So would disagree Alexander is a Jewish name for some time.

Malcolm Katz

Torma family #romania #hungary


Hello. I hope to find any records or information about my grandmother Matilda Torma (born 1886). The last information that I have is that she had a tailor shop in Sovata(Szováta) around 1936. She lived before in Cluj(Koloszvár).

I know that my grandmother Matilda was born in 1886 in Sântimbru/Csíkszentimre/Szentimre that belong at that time to the Csík County in the Kingdom of Hungary.

Melinda Torma    melinda_torma@...

Re: Family Tree of the Jewish People #general

rv Kaplan

Like Max Heffler, I have used Brother's Keeper for many many years.  It's dependable, not gimmicky and does the job.  Not great on the graphics or producing reports/trees for sharing with family.  Often think of moving, but never got round to it. I use BK as the master copy of my tree, where I'm in full control.

I also have versions of  my trees on My Heritage - though never really update it - JewishGen FTJP (haven't updated that in a long long time) - and Geni.  I have my trees on Geni in case someone contacts me, but if I turn my back, my trees get messed up by people adding duplicate siblings, and moving family members about, grafting them on to wrong parents or wrong partners. People seem to do this without any reference to me in advance, assuming their research is more accurate than mine.  As a result, I am very hesitant about trusting Geni's information, without checking back on the sources if I can.  

I think the problem in sites such as MH and Geni is that people seems to love hoovering up tangential families.  Doesn't interest me when MH keeps telling me it has a whole tribe relating to someone who married my 5th cousin.  I could understand if it was generations ago and was in the same ancestral shtetl - when there may well have been common blood links - but nowadays, doesn't grab me. To each his own.   

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland


- Ariogala, Josvainiai, Kedainiai, Krakes, Seta, Veliuona, Grinkiskis, Lithuania

FELMAN, MIL(L)ER, ROSENBLOOM - Kamenets-Podolsk, Shatava, Balyn, Ukraine

TROPP, STORCH - Kolbuszowa, Cmolas,Galicia


Viewmate: Interpretation Wanted (English Medical Terms) #translation

Rusty Wilson

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...  

Rusty Wilson

Re: Fisher Headstone Translation #translation

Ury Link

Dear Genners
The only connection between the name Eliahu and the name  Alexander are the leters Alef-Lamed
or in Hebrew אליהו and אלכסנדר
But ,what I don’t understand is that the name Elijahu and the name Alexander are Holly names,
“Shem Kodesh” שם קודש. It was usual to change a Holly name to a secular name that use the same first later
a sample: Abraham was changed to Albert, Moshe to Moris, Gershon to Gerhard and more.
Alexander sometimes was change to Sander,Sender, Axelrod,Zand, Zender and more names.
but this names are nor realy a chang of the name, the only shorted the origin name Alexander.
Best regards
Ury Link

Re: Mount Zion and Mount Hebron Cemetery, NY #usa

Susan Beecher <s_beecher@...>

The staff there are very willing to do this for you. My friend had them do this for her family members. I think they ask for a donation. If you can't find someone to do it for you.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

Re: Family Tree of the Jewish People #general

Peter Straus

I also want to put in a plug for Family Tree Maker in conjunction with Ancestry.   One feature I like about both is, while in different ways, they allow one to be fairly rigorous in documenting sources, a key ingredient in genealogical research that many are careless about, but that becomes essential in reconciling the conflicting connections we have all seen.   (That is also my most severe criticism of FTJP, which contains much undocumented—and inaccurate—information.)  One severe shortcoming though of Ancestry alone is the inability to copy more than a single record at a time, while FTM allows copying trees in whole or in part in FTM or GED formats to make data available to other researchers—including source documentation.

--peter straus

   San Francisco

Re: Fisher Headstone Translation #translation


Dear David,
The Hebrew inscription on this headstone is of the given name (Eliyahu) and name of father (Tsvi), without the surname.
In many cases Jews in the diaspora adopt or given a non-Jewish first name, while keeping their Jewish first name (sometimes even in a non-formal way).
My guess is that the name ALEXANDER is the non-Jewish name chosen due to some phonetic resemblance to Eli (which is the short form of Eliyahu).
Q: "What name would Alexander use in any records found in the Pale of Settlement"?
A: In case that ALEXANDER is a name added upon immigration, I would look for Eliyahu אליהו - Most likely = ILLIYA /ELLIYA or ELI  (His father: Tsvi צבי = TSVI/ ZVI/ HIRSH/ HERSH/ GERSH/ /GERSHON/ GRISHA/ GREGORI)

Good luck with your search.
Herzliya, ISRAEL

Re: Family Tree of the Jewish People #general

Max Heffler

I have used Brother’s Keeper shareware since DOS before Windows and later registered it. I get rapid bug fixes directly from the author. I use geni since there  is one definitive profile for everyone, and I became a curator. I also subscribe to Ancestry and MyHeritage but there are too many trees with so many duplicates that it is hard to keep everything up-to-date. So I keep my local database and geni up-to-date and use Family Tree Maker with Ancestry and MyHeritage Family Tree Builder to download the those trees to my PC from time-to-time to resolve duplicates and remove people not directly connected, and then sync back up. They don’t have useful tools for doing this online, unlike geni. I stay essentially caught up with geni and MyHeritage matches. Ancestry seems to keep growing. I have more than 21500 hints as of last night…


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In addition, the current version of Family Tree Maker includes the capability to convert you old format FTM data files to their current format.  FTM includes the ability to synch to  My personal preference is to do my updates online on my tree and then periodically synch it to Family Tree Maker on my computer.  This ensures that my data will always be current and available on ancestry, so if my computer hard drive crashed, all of my data is still out on ancestry. Having it local on my hard drive via Family Tree Maker, ensures that my data will not disappear if ancestry were to go bankrupt and shut down or if something happened to me and my family did not continue paying the ancestry subscription fees. There are free online family trees, such as GENI or  Personally, I find ancestry's hints and search capabilities set it above their free competition. They are by no means perfect and do not necessarily transcribe all of the records that they claim to have transcribed, but ancestry remains my go-to source.


Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Re: Headstone Translation #translation

Neil Kominsky

Naftali matches with Tzvi and Hirsch/Hertz because the symbol of the Biblical tribe of Naftali is a deer.
Neil Kominsky
Brookline, MA

Translation of Polish marriage record #translation

Kenneth Berger

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you so much.
Ken Berger

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