Re: Looking for details-Mimi family in Budapest #hungary


Any other surnames? Mimi is usually a given name

Re: Staub family #hungary #names


Hello Molly,
Is STAUB in Hungary related to STAUB from Breslau?
Simon Staub (my ggf on mother's side) in Breslau died
in Treblinka 1945. Might have started Staub Pots Co.
now in France??

Dan Weinberg

Re: SZKLARKIEWICZ or similar, STEIGLITZ and similar, and ELLENBOGEN. 1800s #poland

Jill Whitehead

Jebwadne was in Lomza gubernia in NE Poland, and Ellenbogen or Katzenellenbogen was a common Suwalki Lomza name, as well as a common name in Liverpool. My father came from a Suwalki Gubernia  family (the Serwianskis later Servian) that emigrated to Liverpool in the 1870's. Suggest you join the Jewish Genealogical Society of GB to gain acess to its records on Liverpool, and you may be interested in contacting the Liverpool Jewish archivist Arnold Lewis who is helpful on burial sites etc.  Also you can look at the records in old copies of Landsmen, the journal of the Suwalki Lomza Interest Group, at your local large library (NB this group is now defunct) - I am sure they did cover Ellenbogens and similar names.

My father's best friend in Liverpool at the Liverpool Institute Grammar school (now Paul McCartney's school for the performing arts) called Nathan Silverbeck (now long dead) had an Ellenbogen mother. The Ellenbogens have all sorts of Liverpool and Suwalki Gubernia connections.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, England

Re: Where are the vital records for Bircza, Galicia? #galicia #poland


Hi Moses,
I have been researching families in Bircza area for many years now. There are very few records left for Bircza and it's surroundings - a lot of documents were burned during and after WWII, but there are some that remained, kept once in local District Office. Land and Mortage records + notary records. Merzels are highlighted in many of these. I offer my help in case you were interested.

Jakub Czupryński

Dr.Josef ASH

Hello, Judy.
You know it, sure, but to those who don't:
the town you mentioned is now called in Lithuania Kudirkos-Novamestis ("new town Kudirkos" in Lithuwnian)
Shabbath shalom,
Josef ASH, Israel

Re: names in old country: #names, #lithuania #belarus #latvia

Jill Whitehead

In my family Louis (or Lewis) was originally Elias or Lazarus, though I do have some Leib or Leybka too.

Similarly, in my family Celia/Cecilia, or its nickname Cissie, was originally Cyza. My great grand aunt was called Cissie Miriam Guttenberg (born Hull, England in 1870's) after her grandmother Cyza Malka Muskatenblit of Rajgrod, Lomza gubernia.

The names will vary by geographical area. Do you mean Russia itself or the Russian Pale of Settlement when the countries included Poland, Lithuania, Latvia etc.?

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Searching for info on Hantz, Hanz #hungary #austria-czech


I have been trying to info on my Great Grandfather Bennie Hantz. I am at a dead end. His immigration paperwork says he came to NY from Barak Silvas Hungary. It says he was born in Bochava Hungary, Now Czechoslovakia. It says he arrived on Feb. 2, 1901 on the SS Amsterdam from Antwerp Belgium. I am unable to find his name on the ship's roster. My Great Grandmother was Rose Hantz and she came to NY on May 5, 1904. They were married in Hungary in July 1876. I really want to know more about this side of my family. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Searching for my mothers lost sister from Belaya Tzerkov Ukraine: Chaya Gohfeld #ukraine

george weiss

My name is George Weiss..I am the son of Brucha Gohfeld(Betty Garfield)..Married name Betty Weiss...When my mother and her brother left Belaya Tzerkov in 1923 to Chicago to live with some relatives, he younger Sister Chaya was ill and could not travel..Until 1961 my mother and her brother Morris Garfield had contact with their sister via letters but in 1961 the Soviet Union cut off all contact with the West...Since 1961 there has not been any contact with Chaya and her daughter Valentina..I am trying to find the Daughter Valentina because do to age my Aunt Chaya would be I assume she is pasted away..I would really hope someone reading this may know her..Please feel free to contact me George Weiss : g.weis@...

Re: family name search Slepian #names #belarus

L Levy

I am researching my Maternal great grandmother who was Chana/Hanna Slepian from Minsk, I’ve found several families with that name both in Minsk and the US. Please contact me if you’d like to compare notes, perhaps I can help. Laura

Re: names in old country: #names, #lithuania #belarus #latvia

Corey Brand

The best thing to do is get pictures of their graves, and hope their religious/original name is written on them. You can usually expect them from the earlier generations. Now it is not so common, but it varies. 

Louis could be Leib, Lipa, Leizer
Willie could be Wolf, Velvel
Celia could be Tsirel, Sarah, Tsipa, Sala

Those are guesses. Keep in mind that many Jews have two names, and though they often stuck by one of them, there is a chance they are recorded as the other. And sometimes you’ll find wildcards, names that barely resemble the original name. 

Corey Brand
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Re: How do you ?????? #general

Max Heffler

I have also had great response from John and Brother’s Keeper has the ability to “Add spouse or partner (same sex)”


From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Dahn Cukier via
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 1:09 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [] How do you ?????? #general


The answer depends on the software you are using. I suggest you write
the developers and ask them for help.

I have had good responses from John at Brother's Keeper.

I have not tried your problem, but define each person
without spouses and then add them together using the databaseID number.

For marriages, I just enter the information.

I repeat, each software has their own solutions.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020, 05:11:24 PM GMT+3, Trudy Barch <cousintrudy@...> wrote:



Hi genners,


Hope everyone is staying safe and healthy.


1)  list same sex couples?   Who do you put in the female slot?  And who in the male slot?


2)  2nd marriage to the same person.   Married - divorced - remarried same person.



Thank you,   Trudy Barch,   FLorida


Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

update: Seeking photo of Moses Petschek #austria-czech

Nancy Petschek-Kohn

I am seeking a photo of my great great grandfather, Moses Petschek, born in Kolin, Bohemia in 1822, died in 1888.  Any other photos of the Petschek family and/or information on descendants, especially those no longer bearing the name Petschek (descendants of Petschek-born females who married) would also be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!
Nancy Petschek-Kohn

Re: Where are the vital records for Bircza, Galicia? #galicia #poland

Sherri Bobish

Hi Moses,

One branch of my family was from the nearby towns of Tyrawa Woloska and Ustrzyki Dolne.  I have been doing genealogy for 25 years, and have found virtually no records relevant to my family from those two towns.

I have no explanation as to why.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching:  WALTZMAN / WALZMAN, Ustrzyki Dolne (Istryker) Poland
LEVY, Tyrawa Woloska, Poland.

Re: Kopyl (Kapule) #belarus

Chicago Bubby

I too have several relatives who came from Kapyl to Sioux City, Iowa.

They were siblings: Shmerel PASSMAN and Chaya (Passman) HARLOW.

They were the children of Yekusiel and Finkel (Perlman) PASSMAN. My husband is a descendant of the Perlman family which was numerous in Kapyl.

There were a number of other siblings who remained in Kapyl, one of which had a son who assumed the surname of SHAPIRA and emigrated to Israel after WWII.

This is the first I have heard that many Kapyl former residents had gone to Kapyl. We always wondered why these relatives wound up there.

I have traced much of the rest of the PERLMAN family, but never tried to find out more of these Sioux City relatives

Cyndee Meystel
Chicago, IL

Petrikov, Belarus #belarus #names


Looking for connections in Petrikov, Belarus.  Louis (Leib) Offenhenden was from this town.  I believe his father Samuel was sister to Miriam Offenhenden (married Samuel Gutman).  Her son Chaim Gutman was sent from Petrikov to Woodbine, New Jersey to live with is uncle Samuel.  Chaim went on to be famous Yiddish journalist.  
Any help appreciated. 

Judy Bowman

Hello, my name is Judy Bowman.  My great-grandfather Israel Bowman's last name was Baumgarten, born in "Wladyslawow, Poland" (which is surely Lithuania)  May 18, 1880(sometimes other dates given).   The last of 16 children born to Jacob Baumgarten from 2 different wives.  Almost all of them changed their name from Baumgarten to Bowman.  We know the names of a few of his siblings: Harris, Joseph, and Israel went to the UK. Sol/Solomon went to Shanghai.  There may also be a Simon Baumgarten.  Israel settled in Port Talbot, Wales, married Esther Fellman from Sakiai, Lithuania and had 3 children: Jacob, Harry(my grandfather), and Anne, all came to the US.  Harris's children Barnett "Barney" and Joseph went to South Africa.  Some Bowmans eventually returned to the UK (Clive) and some went to Canada (Glenda, another Harry and David Bowman).  I would love to find more on Jacob Baumgarten, the father of these 16 children, wives' names.  if I could secure a birth certificate for Israel or any of his siblings, it might have the mother listed.  Or, a death certificate for Jacob Baumgarten or Jacob Bowman which seems to be a common name in the UK. The ones I've found, the dates don't match up.  If anyone has Baumgarten in their families from the UK or Lithuania/Poland, and even Belarus or Riga, I'd love to get in touch to see if we're connected.  For a variety of reasons, I haven't don't DNA testing. 

NEW BOOK (US, UK, CZECH REPUBLIC, SLOVAKIA) #germany #austria-czech

Helen Epstein

FRANCI'S WAR, a manuscript my mother Franci Rabinek Solar Epstein
(1920-1989) wrote in 1974 has just been published in the US, Canada,
UK, Czech Republic and Slovakia. There wlll also be French, Russian,
Italian and Portugese editions later this year. It is an
extraordinarily candid look at what Franci saw and experienced
between1939-1946, in Prague and with a group of young Czech and German
women prisoners during the second world war. You can order it online
as an ebook, paperback or audiobook. I edited it and wrote an


Re: Central Death certificate database from Israel in English is available?

Rose Feldman

If the person knows the date of death and place of burial, it is possible to get a death certificate. It is the first step to have the exact date.
Rose Feldman,  Israel Genealogy Research Association  <rosef@...>     ireneplotzker@... 

Re: Staub family #hungary #names


Hi Molly,
I do not have information regarding Ervin STAUB (but the email Valentin found looks good), but I found out your husband Martin (assuming his father was Adolf, 1897-1944 and grandfather was Samuel, 1864-1944) was my husband's 2nd cousin once removed!  Samuel's sister Leah married Yehuda Frankel. They had a daughter, Etta, who married Jeno Katz. Etta and Jeno's daughter Vivian married William Plotzker, who became the parents of my husband Richard.

Regards,   Irene Greenwald Plotzkert  ireneplotzker@... 

Re: Where are the vital records for Bircza, Galicia? #galicia #poland

Mark Halpern

Dear Moses:

Unfortunately the Jewish vital records of the town of Bircza have not survived. Bircza was a registration town where Jews from Bircza and many other smaller towns and villages registered their vital events. The easiest way to determine what records are available to Jewish genealogists for a town is to search Miriam Weiner's Routes to Roots Foundation website - and click on Archive Documents. 

Mark Halpern


On 2020-05-08 4:15 am, Moses Jefferson wrote:

Dear fellow researchers,

While trying to trace my family roots, I’ve discovered a branch of my family tree originate from the village Bircza, located in the Premyśl County, south-eastern Poland.

Although the village had a thriving large Jewish community until the war, I cannot seem to find any trace of records from this village.

Perhaps they registered in more larger towns nearby?, but nevertheless I did not succeed finding my ancestors names mentioned in any index on JRI-Poland.

Does this perhaps mean they actually did register BM&D in their local town, meaning the register you books are gone forever??

I would appreciate if someone can shed light to this mystery.

Moses Jefferson

Searching for MERZEL / MERZIL / MÖRCEL from Bircza.

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