1858 Mogilev Census (Belarus): Meaning of "Craftsman 6"

Karen Amato

In the 1858 Mogilev Census, some of my relatives are listed under the category “Craftsmen 6.”Does anyone know what that type of craftsman the number 6 refers to?
Is there a chart listing the various types of craftsmen, with corresponding numbers?
Thank you,  Karen Amato  kamato@...>
ISAACSON, KEYFETZ in Mogilev; PONARSKY in Belarus and Russia

Re: BRODIE / BOUDE #southafrica

Corinna Woehrl (nee Goslar)

Dear Richard and fellow list-readers,

I am sorry I missed this request as I am also searching for a  BROUDE-family member related to the GOSLAR-family:

Margarethe (Grete) KARPEL married BROUDE (nee Oct. 5th. 1894, Lissa/Leszno) was a sister of my Great-Grandmother Sophie GOSLAR.
My parents had contact with her in South Africa at the end of 1960/beginning 1970s. Maybe someone can give me further information on her and her husband?

Regards from Germany

Corinna (Woehrl nee Goslar)
Hoisdorf, Germany (between Hamburg and Luebeck)

GOSLAR, WUERZBURG, KARPEL, EHRMANN, KITZETAFF, ROSENSTEIN, ROSENSTERN, WOLLBERG, SCHLOSS, MEHRGUT and many other „connected“ families mostly in northern Germany (Luebeck, Hamburg,  Bremen, Berlin, Lissa, Breslau and in Lower Saxony: Grohnde/Boerry, Holzminden, Hameln, Neustadt a/Rbge)

Re: World War II Enlistment -- strange civil occupation #usa


David, that's great.   

1940 census says he was a grocery clerk.

Actors and actresses 002   Clerks in trade 112     

Paul Hattori
London UK

MINDEL, MINDELL from Utena and Vyzuonos, Lithuania
FELLER from Pabrade, Lithuania

Looking for lost family #russia #ukraine


Family of Morris Zager, of Proskovow, Russia, now Ukraine is sought.
My father, born on 17, Oct. 1893 was separated from his twin brother and older sister after their parents, David Zager and Leah Shuster Zager, died.
In 1913 he came to the United States and never saw this family again.
I am looking for anyone who has any knowledge of these members or their offspring.

levinee55@... <levinee55@...>

Re: Were "nephews" sometimes really cousins? #general


When I was growing up in suburban London in the 1950s, I was taught to call our neighbours (who weren't related in any way and weren't Jewish) uncle and aunt. A 'respect for your elders' thing.

Henry Best,
London, UK.

Searching:- BEST (Netherlands and UK), SAMUEL(S) (UK), PEZARRO (Italy, Portugal, Netherlands, UK)

Re: Were "nephews" sometimes really cousins? #general

Deborah Blinder

When my mother immigrated to the United States after World War II, she was sponsored by an uncle and aunt who had left Germany just before the beginning of the war. I knew them when I was small, and my mother always called them Onkel Otto and Tante Paula. She called their son, who was about a year younger than my mother, her cousin, and I always assumed they were first cousins. Long after the deaths of my mother, her cousin, and her uncle and aunt, my research revealed that Onkel Otto was actually my mother's first cousin once removed, and his son was my mother's second cousin. It's too late to ask, of course, but I assume my mother referred to these cousins as uncle and aunt out of respect, since they were of her parents' generation and acted, in a way, as surrogates for her parents, who did not survive the Shoah.  
Deborah Blankenberg (JewishGen ID #613395)  Lodi, CA   dtblankenberg@... 
Researching BLOCH/BLOCK (Germany to New York, Colombia and Missouri),
BLINDER (Kishinev to New York via Poland? and Paris),
KUSHER/KUSZER (Lodz vicinity to New York via Paris), GOLDSCHMIDT (Germany)

Question About Given and Family NAMES Used in Russian Marriage and ARMY Records #russia

David Prater <praterds@...>

Using the information found in the following newspaper article memorialising Alexander and the names found on Alexander’s headstone: Eliyahu, Tzvi, Alexander and Fisher.  I should be able to discover Alexander in Russian records for his time in the Army and his marriage.

Could some body please suggest what name(s) I should be using when searching Russian records?

-- David Prater  California, USA  praterds@...


Looking for Mr. BUCHALTER in Kunev Chmelnytsky Russia or it's environs... #russia

sharon yampell

My great great grandfather was Jacob BUCHALTER  and he was born in about 1860 in Kunev Chmelnytsky Russia or it’s environs.  I am looking for both of Jacob’s parents but moreso his father. The story that has been circulating throughout  the family is that Mr. BUCHALTER  left Mrs. BUCHALTER  while she was pregnant with Jacob.  I don’t even know if Jacob had any siblings from this union or marriage.


Hoping all stay safe and well!!     Sharon F. Yampell,  Voorhees, NJ USA   GenealogicalGenie@...

Re: Translation of Hebrew and Yiddish phrases #yiddish #translation


Bob Silverstein  bobsilverstein@... asked for help translating 20 words and phrases from a letter including "Is the man’s name Cwi the same as Tvi?"

Cwi is a Polish spelling of the Hebrew name Tzvi, which I've also seen spelled as Zvi and Zwi. 
The Hebrew spelling is TZADI - VET [bet without a dot] - YUD.
By the way, the name of the first letter is Tzadi, not Tzadik; this is a common error, and came about because the next letter in the Hebrew alphabet begins with a 'k' sound and when the alphabet is recited these sounds run together.
Fredel Fruhman, Brooklyn, New York, USA   <fredelfruhman@...>

Looking for Skole, Ukraine, Birth Records circa 1925 #ukraine


I'm looking for some guidance in locating a birth record from Skole, Ukraine, from 1925 if possible. 

A cousin, Richard Groedel (1890-1964), lived in Skole and was married to Valerie Groezinger (b.? - 1971). My understanding is that they had no children. However, as part of my research and postings, I have been contacted by three people claiming to be Richard's son and daughters, possibly (probably) from another mother(s). The child's record I am most interested in locating is Sarah. She was born in Skole on 18 Jan 1925. Another name she might have used was Christina (Krystyna) Szyszowski. 

The second daughter, named Irina - her mother could have been Helena Kunicka (b. Sept 29, 1899) who worked for the Groedel family. Unfortunately, I don't have the birth date for Irina. I assume that both of these girls were born out of wedlock. Is there a way to locate the birth records? My goal is in trying to confirm or refute that Richard was the father.    Thanks!

J. Zeisler      

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Re: Fw: Brodie and Binnes family research #southafrica

Michael Hoffman

Hello Richard,

Access the following on Family Search for Esther Binnes Brodie probate record in South Africa

This record confirms the 4 children of Esther Binnes Brodie.


Michael Hoffman


Re: Need for education on how to post #guidelines


While we are at it, I'd love to see more specific subject lines in general.
So, instead of "looking for family from Lithuania", for example, we might see "Seeking [Family NAME], Lithuania, date(s)". 
A poisted photo would include location and possible family name.
I'm happy to help and often look at vague subjects only because I have the time, but it is frustrating to find that I have nothing for the inquirer.
Barbara Sloan,   Conway, SC   jbonline1111@...

Re: Were "nephews" sometimes really cousins? #general

Shelley Mitchell

My grandmother had neighbors in Kolomea. When they all arrived in NYC, they would visit and my grandmother always referred to them as distant cousins. I later learned that this was her reference to her close friends from back home. I verified that through my research.
Shelley Mitchell 

Re: Stillborns #names #usa #general

Shelley Mitchell

The overwhelming amount of stillborns on my tree were given a name. With the exception of stillborns on the ship, many have a grave. But I have to admit, I never had a need to search out their burial sites. In my living US family, again they’ve had a name and a grave.

That’s only my experience. In some circumstances, where the family was very poor, I can envision alternatives. Often the general rule has many exceptions. In NY, there has always been the opportunity to use a Hebrew Society for those burials.
Shelley Mitchell 

Re: Privis / Prewys and Bartik / Vartek #bessarabia


I'm not sure if this would be relevant to you but I descend from a BARTAK family of Druja, Belarus (then Lithuania). Though the name has meaning in Slavic languages and was used by non-Jews, my relatives claimed that  it stood for  "Ben Reb Tevye Ha-Kohen"---and I think I found the specific Tevye this was referring to.

Re: Were "nephews" sometimes really cousins? #general


IMO, it's absolutely possible. Because my grandmother had her children late in life, some of her cousins were actually young enough to be nieces and nephews, so that's how she referred to them and they called her 'aunt.'

Re: Do U.S. online phone directories still exists? #usa #general

Ruthie Zaionz

There is another website:

You can search the name by state, or states, or the entire country.  
Good luck.   Ruthie Zaionz, Toronto, Canada.

Re: ship records back to Europe from New York #usa


Hi Lisa

The Hamburg Passenger lists don't have a second page, but the New York Passenger and Crew Lists, which you should find on familysearch for free.
On this second page should be mentionned a person (relative or friend) with address in the United States, maybe you'll find this person in the census.
I tried to find the New York Passenger and Crew List but there are to many Josef WEINER, so I don't know which is the right one.

Regards,   Corinne Iten


Re: Help on serveral ukrainian ancesters #ukraine


Dear Chuck,


With all due respect I must say that your comment is puzzling.



"In 1783, Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire as the result of the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774). Following the Russian Revolution of 1917, Crimea became an autonomous republic within the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic in the USSR. During World War II, Crimea was downgraded to the Crimean Oblast after its entire indigenous population, the Crimean Tatars, were deported to Central Asia, an act recognized as a genocide by Ukraine and 3 other countries. In 1954, it was transferred to the Ukrainian SSR from the Russian SFSR.[6]

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine was reestablished as an independent state in 1991, and most of the peninsula was reorganized as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, while the city of Sevastopol retained its special status within Ukraine. The 1997 Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet partitioned the former Soviet Black Sea Fleet and allowed Russia to continue basing its fleet in Crimea: both the Ukrainian Naval Forces and Russian's Black Sea Fleet were to be headquartered in Sevastopol. Ukraine extended Russia's lease of the naval facilities under the 2010 Kharkiv Pact in exchange for further discounted natural gas."

As far as Crimean archive concerned, at least one vessel on a mission to evacuate archived documents was sank as a result of bombing by Germans.

Jane Liss


Re: Do U.S. online phone directories still exists? #usa #general

Sally Bruckheimer

Yes, online directories still exist, but they are for landlines, not cell phones. Lots of Americans (like others) only have cell phones now. There aren't directories for them that are published.
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

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