My Great Grandfather WIEDERKEHR #poland #ukraine


Hi – after many years searching I've been unable to find information on my Maternal Grandfathers side of the family (ironically the side I was closest too).


My GGF, Samuel WIEDERKEHR b. 1870/80's was in the Polish Army and either died, ran off, or simply disappeared in1915, during WW1. His wife Henia WIEDERKEHR (nee WOLF) b. 1880's raised their 4 boys in Rawa Ruska where her family was from.


My Great Uncles all died during the war:

-       ELI, b. ~1901 in Dziewięcierz, d. 1940’s

-       HERSCH b. 1904 in Dziewięcierz, d. 1942

-       PSACHJE, b.1911, d. 1945

My GF MARKUS, b. 1914, d. 1994, had always said he was born in Rawa Ruska, but he may not have know another location


I’m trying to figure out how I can find anymore information on GGF and his parents. Thanks in advance for your help!


Aaron Sandorffy asandorffy@...
TOWNS: Rawa Ruska, Dziewięcierz



Re: Unable to find names on passenger lists #names

Joel Weintraub

Hi Joel.  I'm going to assume your ancestor came through Ellis Island in your post.  You might be making an assumption and depriving yourself of some passenger information on the manifest. You needed to do one more step after finding them on the Hamburg list (and the name of their ship and when they left that port and where they were going).  Did the "park service team" actually look at the manifest of that ship?  If you were told it was "missing" pages, there is another explanation for "missing" information on Ellis Island manifests...  When the ship manifests were filmed in 1943 or 1944 from Ellis Island, the Immigration Service estimated that about 5 percent of the sheets were torn or crumpled or otherwise damaged.  Most of the damage was to the lower left hand side where the pages were turned.  The lower left side would include the name column, but the rest of the line could still be intact, and have a lot more information than what the Hamburg list would show.  It is true the Hamburg list does not show you the page/line number on the U.S. manifest so you would have to search through the ship manifest pointed to by the Hamburg list.  If your ship came into the U.S. from 1906 on, the names of all the passengers and their page/line numbers can often be found on the Ship Book indexes, which will point you to a ripped nameless part of a page.  Also the WPA cards might also have passenger information including ship name, and page/line numbers for a passenger. From a small sample I've found that most manifest damage happened after WWII started when there was a rush to citizenship and pressure on the ship manifests for citizenship searches.  The WPA cards done just before the filming years often have much more information than the actual filmed manifest with their degraded pages.
Joel Weintraub
Dana Point, CA

Re: Translation of KIERER Marriage Record #poland #translation

Dr.Josef ASH

It is Russian
Chlavna (no alternative), 24 yo, bachelor,  from Dvorets Grodno gubernia, temporary in Warsha,
son of Volf and Fajga nee Hejfets
Rifka Nekha Kerar, 26, not married, dtr of Yitskhak and Etta nee Kaufman, resides in Warshaw (Kova...? str, #35)
Married on Feb 26/March 10, 1890

Re: Looking for lost family #russia #ukraine



I'm not sure this will be of help to you, but here goes.  I am not a Zager relative.  However, I am the historian of our small shul in the Highland Park district of Los Angeles, California.  The temple is Temple Beth Israel of Highland Park and Eagle Rock.  There were at least 13 founding mothers of the congregation that were the main force in getting our temple built in 1930 during the Great Depression. One of the major influencers of those early times was Gertrude Simonoff Zager.  She was married to Jack Zager.  In the 1920s and beyond, there was also a Sarah Zager that lived next door to this couple.  I'm not sure if Sarah was Jack's sister, sister-in-law, or mother.  My focus has been on the founders.  You might want to check and just use the surname of Zager in California.  Though the three people I have mentioned are not listed there (yet), Jack & Gert's grandson, Lt. Edward Zager, is listed.  He was a young man killed in the Viet Nam War.  I also noticed the name Morris Zager listed twice.  These individuals may not be the one you are interested in, but here is the link for the one that was born in December 1893 and is buried in Los Angeles: .  

Good luck!

Delaine Shane

another search for Karin #usa

Norbert Steiner

Looking for a childhood friend - Karin Hirschkrohn, married as Karin Mintz and son Stephen Mintz. Karin grew up in Vienna, Austria, met her husband in Ulpan in Israel, had her son with her parents back in Vienna, then came to Kibbutz Magen in Israel to see her husband, but he had already returned to his parents in New York State. Karin followed her husband. Only once after she immigrated did one of our friends talk to her. At that time she was a Librarian and lived in New York. "WE" are a group of former members of the Hashomer Hatzair of Vienna who are all interested in the whereabout of Karin and how she is doing now. Please help finding her.

Re: Eisenberg in Raseiniai, Lithuania #lithuania

Glazer Family

I am looking for family of Moshe Eisenberg (1912-1948), who fell in the Israeli War of Independence in 1948.
Son of David of Tel-Aviv.
Was not married.  Worked for the Port of Tel-Aviv.

Re: Shklyar, Pinkhasik and Reznik from Slutsk and Kletsk #belarus

Glazer Family

Have you tried the Kronick family in Toronto, Canada?

Stephen Glazer, Jerusalem

Re: SHALIT in North Dakota from Panevezys #lithuania - Revision List of 1908 - people not present #lithuania

Sandy Crystall

John Anderson asked
"if the "Revision list of 1908 would include someone in the family who is no longer living there."

The answer -- it absolutely does include those who are not living there! The revision list (and other census-like documents) are not like our censuses.  I have ancestors who are on the 1908 revision list but are clearly documented in the U.K., U.S., or  U.S. state censuses at or before that time.  My ancestors had lived in what is now Bauska, Latvia and Pasvalys, Lithuania.

Hope this is helpful.

Sandy Crystall,  New Hampshire   <rosapalustris@...>

Searching for the children of my cousin Shmuel STEINER #israel

Norbert Steiner

One of my three first cousins passed away a few years ago and I lost track of his two children and wife. His name was Shmuel Steiner. He had two children but I don’t know their names. Their father called them Mirale and Dubi. They lived with their parents in Tiv’on, Israel. Shmuel was an advocate for Juvenile Delinquents in the Galilee and upper Jordan Valley. I know that Dubi moved to a Kibbutz in the Galilee near the border to Lebanon, and Mirale married someone at the Ben Gurion University in Beersheba. Shmuel’s father was the brother of my father. He had a brother who, according rumor, stole from him, and his children may not want to have anything to do with any other member of the Steiner family. This is all I can say and hope that Shmuel’s children will find it in their hearts to reconnect with me.


Norbert N. Steiner    <steiner71@...>

Ukrainian birthplace for one great uncle from Northern Lithuania #lithuania #russia #ukraine

Michele Lock

My grandfather and his 9 siblings were all born and raised in the Gruzdiai/Joniskis/Zagare area in the far north of Lithuania. I've got passenger lists, naturalization papers, and draft cards that list these towns. Except - the last brother who came in 1923 to America, lists 'Slaviansk' as his birthplace, both on the 1923 ship passenger list and on his 1942 US Army draft card. The only Slaviansk that I have found is in southern Ukraine, 700 miles from Gruzdiai/Joniskis/Zagare. I also noticed that on the 1923 passenger list, he is listed as a citizen of Russia, rather than of Lithuania. I know during World War I that Lithuanian Jews were forced into exile into Russia; could Slaviansk be where they were forced to go?

michlock77@... <michlock77@...> 

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Moravia census records 1857-1921 now available online #austria-czech

Michael Gordy

With little fanfare, the Moravian state archives (MZA) in Brno has released on its website a vast collection of scanned images of census records for 1857-1921. The records span the collections of archives in Blansko,  Brno-venkov, Břeclav,  Havlíčkův Brod,  Hodonín,  Jihlava,  Kroměříž,  Pelhřimov, Třebíč,  Uherské Hradiště,  Vsetín,  Vyškov, Zlín, Znojmo and Žďár nad Sázavou.

I don't read Czech, but have the impression that the service is still in a testing phase. There is no English version of the website, and I see no indication that the URLs will be "permalinks." You can start a search here:
If we all rush to the website, expect slow server response times!

To give an example, I have reviewed the 528 images of the 1869 census of central Kyjov (Gaya in German), available here:
I have compiled an index of 51 Jewish families that appear in this film.  There is also a film for the 1869 census of peripheral areas of Kyjov, available here:
There seem to be even more Jewish families in the latter film.  When I complete my index of 1869 Kyjov, I will post more information to this list.

I believe this collection will rival badatelna in its importance to the Austria-Czech SIG!

Happy hunting,
Michael Gordy
Takoma Park, Maryland, USA

Re: Stillborns #names #usa #general

Nicole Heymans

I have combed and indexed a number of records from Posen region, Prussia and stillbirths or deaths within minutes or hours of birth were registered as such, usually without given name; although I have seen given names for stillbirths.

Forget rules, be creative.

Happy hunting,

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium

Re: Need to have a Stenographic Shorthand Note Deciphered #translation

Nicole Heymans

Hi Mark,

I discovered about 17 years ago when attempting to make sense of my mother's 1942/1943 diary, entirely in shorthand, totally unrecognizable at first although I had learned shorthand at school, that there are at least as many shorthand systems as languages and probably many more.

It would help others to help you if you could provide a suggestion as to the probable language of the shorthand writer. It looks German to me but I have absolutely no knowledge of English shorthand.

Happy hunting,

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium

Looking for information about the following people #france #hungary

Andres Carciente

I would appreciate any information about the following people:

Ilona GRUNBERGER ( born in Szeged in 1920) and lived in the Kazinczy street  28 in Budapest in 1945-46
Tibor GRUNBERGER ( born in Szeged in 1923) and lived in the Kazinczy street 28 in Budapest in 1945-46.
Judit FRSCH ( FRISS) lived in Budapest in 1944 in the Hegedűs Gyula street 15.
Alfred MARION: lived and died in Paris. Any relatives from him?
Imre LUKACS: lived in Paris after 1945. Any relatives from him?




Andres Carciente

Dovid meir zumer #romania


I'm looking for anyone that has information about descendants of reb dovid meir zumer son of yitzchok yoel. He was a shochet in Romania in the early 1900's. And may have had to flee to poland because they forbade shecita and he was doing it anyway  I believe he came from russia in early 1900 to yassi romania


Zumer/ Summer from Romania #romania


My great grandfather was from yassi Romania and his last name was zumer he had 5 children that came to America and they all called themselves something else zumer/sommer/somer/summer

Gembitski #poland


Looking for any information 

Re: From DANZIG TO GDANSK change of street names #danzig #poland

Hi Catherine

My great-grandfather is also from Danzig, so this was interesting to me.

I found this web site where it shows in Zoppot, Cecilienstrasse = Czyżewskiego


If you can find an old map online  from the era you are searching and compare it to a modern Polish map, you can see where it is .
If you Google Cecilien Strasse Danzig you get a lot of results.

This worked for me many years ago when I went to Shanghai.  Armed with a map from 1939 and a modern one, I was able to locate all the places my parents lived, worked and hung out during WW2.

Good luck,

Vicky Ferraresi 
Belmont, CA

Help with Farkas/Weiss in Hungary #hungary

Rose Potter

I’m wondering if anyone has any tips to help me research my great great grandparents, Marion Farkas and Regina Farkas (maiden name Weiss) from Hungary. They would have been born around the 1860s, and according to my grandmother they lived their whole lives in Hungary. I am especially focusing on Regina and trying to find out more specifics on when and where she was born. I have found several records on Family Search and Ancestry for babies named Regina Weiss who were born around the right time, and I’ve also found burial records of women named Regina Farkas who were buried in Jewish cemeteries in Austria or Hungary around when I think she would’ve died, but those records that I’ve found have so little information that I can’t confirm if they’re the records of my relative. I also can’t find any records at all for Marion Farkas.

Any ideas? Are there alternate names for Marion and/or Regina that I should try searching?

Rose Potter

Re: Seeking information on Cohen & Shapiro families from Podu Iloaiei & Iasi, Romani #bessarabia #romania

Aline Petzold

Hello Nicholas:
 My family is from Stefanesti, a small town very close to Podu Iloaiei. My great uncle came to Montreal from Romania in 1908 and began a successful suit factory, which is still in business today ( Jack Victor and Sons).  My grandparents followed and settled in Montreal in 1938.  I now live in the US but grew up in Montreal. 

I have scanned the document about the Jewish Community in  Podu Iloaiei.  I found a reference there to a Ghershen Cohn, under the Communal life section:
Also, my grandmother's cousin was a Kohn - I wonder if we are related? Aline Petzold

"GHERSEN COHN: born in 1868, in his youth he was active in the press as the editor of Di Yiddisher Tzukunft (1899)."

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