Advice on how to find information on schools: Germany - Primary Schools "Agricultural and Commerce" #germany


Good Day to Everyone,


I need advice from those more experienced than me in family research as I may be going about this all wrong. I have been researching my Germany family tree over the last few months and have found details on my 4th Great Grandfather. The information is from the archivist from Sulzbach-Rosenberg, Bavaria. Browsing Google Books, I found an Annual Report in German on the "Agricultural and Commerce" school which has my 4th Great Grandfather's name mentioned in it. 


I am stumped to figure out which German Jewish Community he comes from before he left for the US in 1859. My family is not showing up as a part of the Jewish Community or Synagogue in Sulzbach in the time frame of 1817. Maybe we have the wrong "Sulzbach." Nathan's father married someone from "Floss," which is not too far away. There is a name change from the Fraenkel branch we believe is our branch of the family from Sulzbach. We have documents that state Nathan was from Sulzbach, and I thought if I can confirm where this school is, it would prove that indeed he was from this area. 


Family: Neftelberger

Location: Sulzbach, Bavaria

Document Found: Annual Report on Primary School in Prussia timeframe with my 4th Great Grandfathers Name (Nathan Neftelberger) Dated: 1850/51 

Notes: Nathan Neftelberger, age 14, From Sulzbach, Father: Handlesmann (Merchant)

Does not note: Where the school located


Fathers name: Wolf Hirsch Neftelberger (Unknown)

Mother: Fanny (Fradel) Boskowitz (Floss, Germany)

1837: Semmerl and Naftalie (Nathan) births




I tried many avenues to see if there was a historian or documentation on schools in 1840-1860. I've also emailed a German Genealogist in Sulzbach that specialist in the Jewish community there and still waiting for a response (Understanding that she probably has a backlog of emails). Any advice I would greatly appreciate it.


TracieLyn O'Brien-Rydzewski (Family Name: Neftelberger/Adler)


Researching my Jewish family tree

Simplest & Best Way For Extended Family To View/Comment On Digital Photos? #general

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Hi All-
What have people found is the best way to 'crowdsource' knowledge about a collection of hundreds/thousands of family photos among several generations of extended family with widely varying (but on average low) technical ability?  We have basic metadata for many of the images, which span nearly 150 years, though there are many errors and omissions that need to be fixed.  I'd also love to allow for people to comment with their own stories and recollections even on photos we've fully identified.  What is the best, simplest but also most useful software/system/site for doing this?  Everything I've seen is either too complex or too basic. Welcome your guidance.
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Re: Last residence of Riga in 1920 before immigrating to US, says the passenger manifest #usa #latvia #lithuania

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Jewish gauchos Argentina #latinamerica

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Comcast here in Portland, OR says The Genetic Detective will air on ABC, starting May 26 at 10 p.m. Pacific time. 
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Portland, OR, USA

Research in Szklary, Tyczyn, Rzeszow area #galicia #poland

Ilana Grallert

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Re: Last residence of Riga in 1920 before immigrating to US, says the passenger manifest #usa #latvia #lithuania


My family also went to Riga before immigration (it's only listed as a last residence on one naturalization document out of six), and I've heard this was so they could have a medical examination. This was in 1923, and I tried finding my original source for this, but since I couldn't I suspect I heard it directly from a family member. This might be a reason why it's listed for your family.

Hope this helps!

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Alan Mandl

Companie Generale Transatlantique (CGT) was traveling to Cuba from France in 1938-early 1939. My father traveled from Bordeaux on the De La Salle in March 1939. Le Havre was another point of departure to Cuba. Among passengers during this era were escapees from Spain.

I was unable to locate a manifest through inquiries to CGT. I don’t know whether Cuban records exist or if they are accessible. The University of Miami has a number of Cuban materials and might a source of information. If you find a source of access to manifests, please let me know.

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I struggled as well to find my father on the Ellis Island passenger list as well.
Just recently, i found his application for naturalization, which listed the ship and its date of arrival.

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Seeking Occupation Lists to learn more about 2 G grandfather Notan Pesach JACOBSON #lithuania #latvia

Carol Zinter

Where on this site would I find an occupation listing for the Kovno region between 1830-1890.  My great great grandfather, Notan Pesach JACOBSON (wife Etyla), operated a Kretchma during that interval.  JACOBSON is likely not the original surname and despite creative searching for the past 8 years, no one in the family has been able to locate a single record for him.  Thank you for directing me to the right place.

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Government term “Permanent Resident”


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a) only the birth child
b) the father and birth child
c) the father and mother and child
d) all the siblings and both parents
e) only the males
f) something else

Thank you,  Reba Harris Solomon

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Dear Group, 

I hope you are all doing well, safe from COVID.

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Steven Turner

As part of our educational program series, we are pleased to announce the posting of two programs by Dr. Andrew Zalewski, vice president of Gesher Galicia. The new webinars, prepared in collaboration with Jay Osborn, our digital map manager, bring the following topics to your desktop:

Historical Maps of Galicia (I): Borders Explained

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Re: family of Claude Pasquier

Danielle Czal

Hi Corine
Thanks o lot for these informations
Are you relative with Family Parchewski- Pasquier.
I have seen on Ancestry that they change their name to Pasquier when they have been naturalized in USA.
I would like to be connect with their family now. They are all died (Paul in 1969, Claude in 1976 and Mary in 1983).
But i dont know if Claude had children.
The mother of Mary was a Kronental and i find photos at home with letters on back : mary writes "dear cousin" to my grand mother till 1950. After nothing.
I find her because a have a photo of their wedding 28/03/1925.
Is the brother of Paul went to USA before him?
Friendly Danielle Czalczynski

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