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Re: Need help to decode abreviations & symbols on Detained Alien Passenger List
#usa
RR is for "railroad." In this case, a woman and her daughter traveling alone, it probably means they were released to the custody of the railroad for delivery to the waiting relative. In some such cases the railroad company was required to return a receipt to the Immigration Service documenting the immigrants were delivered to said relative at the destination. Some railroad lines employed women "matrons" to ride the trains and accompany groups of women and children "traveling alone" and deliver them at stops along the route.
Marian <portofentry@...> Moderator note: Please sign all messages with your full name. It will further the spirit of community and mutual assistance that's vital to this group. Thank you.
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Re: Suwalki-Lomza Landsmen Journal
#poland
Jill Whitehead
Two of my Guttenberg great aunts/uncles, brother and sister Abraham Simon (b Hull 1872) and Rachel Guttenberg (b Hull 1882) married Gorfunkles, Minnie and Isaac. Both the Guttenberg and Gorfunkels (spelt various ways) came from Rajgrod in Lomza Gubernia and both came to UK in the 1860's. The Gorfunkels went to Liverpool and the Guttenbergs went to Hull, Grimsby and then Sheffield. Minnie and Isaac were two of the children of Lazarus and Sprinza Gorfunkel. They can be found in the Liverpool Censuses of 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911. Minnie and Mina Gorfunkel sound like a family naming pattern.
Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK
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Warsaw birth record - house number but no street?
#warsaw
Elizabeth Jackson
I have received a birth record from Warsaw. It is interesting that the house numbers for my family and the witnesses are indicated, but the street name is not given. How might I learn the street name?
Elizabeth Jackson <cattheater@...>
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Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late?
#warsaw
Elizabeth Jackson
I have received a birth record from Warsaw for my Great Aunt. It was registered three months following the event. Why might they have waited so long to report it?
Elizabeth Jackson <cattheater@...> Moderator note: Please sign all messages with your full name. It will further the spirit of community and mutual assistance that's vital to this group. Thank you.
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Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents
#austria-czech
Michael Hoffman
Hello Leah Heilpern Snider,
Contact World Jewish Relief in London, England as they have an archive documenting Refugees from before and after WWII. The website page that you want is as follows:- https://www.worldjewishrelief.org/about-us/your-family-history Jerry Springer obtained his family records from World Jewish Relief. Regards, Michael Hoffman, Borehamwood, HERTS, UK <mikeh25@...>
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Seek English translation of Professor Dov Levin's 12-page research paper on Riga Ghetto Underground Resistance Movement
#latvia
#holocaust
GEORGE MASON
Can anyone tell me if there exists an English translation of the late Professor Dov Levin's 12-page paper, "The Tactics of the Gestapo towards the Underground Resistance in Riga Ghetto in the light of German documents" ? It was originally presented by Professor Levin at the Sixth World Congress of Jewish Studies held at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1973. My Uncle was a member of the Underground Resistance in Riga Ghetto and I would be very interested to know the contents of Professor Levin's paper.
Thank You, George Mason <gmason3815@...> USA
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Re: Need a translation of word in Hebrew letters in the last will of Salomon SCHLOSS, Mömlingen
#germany
#translation
#yiddish
Ernst-Peter Winter
Thank you to all who have replied to me. I am sure that
Salomon Schloß meant "shalom", in the deeper meaning of the word. Since often words in the German text are written in the way they are pronounced in the Franconian dialect of the Lower Main, some words are not immediately apparent to German readers too - only speaking loudly leads to understanding. I should perhaps have added that the text was written on 12 July 1868. He died the same day. Salomon Schloß left behind a fortune of over 23,000 guilders. Salomon was married twice. After his death, the children of the second marriage acted as the principal heirs, as the father had wished. The siblings from the first marriage, or, as two were already dead, their children, received more than they would have been legally entitled to. One brother, Nathan Schloß, had died in Richmond, Virginia (unfortunately no further data available). Ernst-Peter (Winter), Münster, Hesse
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Re: Sharing family tree information
#general
neilan1
Regarding the entering of family tree info on a website such as Ancestry, it's a good idea to ask first. When I first followed Ancestry' s policy of leaving the names of living relatives off of the tree, I received so many complaints from family members who were UPSET that they WEREN'T listed, that I now ask first. Only one small family group ever declined, as the husband worked for the government.
Neilan Stern
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Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents
#austria-czech
Stephen Katz
Have you tried contacting the IKG Wien directly? The website is https://www.ikg-wien.at.
Stephen Katz
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Re: Need a translation of word in Hebrew letters in the last will of Salomon SCHLOSS, Mömlingen
#germany
#translation
#yiddish
asafeig@...
I think the word is "Shalom" = Peace (שלום). Only it's written as it heard in a Yiddishe dialect שולם = "Sholem".
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Re: Need a translation of word in Hebrew letters in the last will of Salomon SCHLOSS, Mömlingen
#germany
#translation
#yiddish
binyaminkerman@...
It may be supposed to say "shalom" peace. The spelling is a bit confused though,it seems to read שולם instead of שלום.
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Re: Cong. Lechas Yosher in Brooklyn, N.Y. & Nesvizh Societies anywhere
#usa
binyaminkerman@...
I can't directly help with your request, but I was suspicious that Lechas Yosher was misspelled from Lekach Yosher or something else. I did a simple Google search and found some information about a congregation Leches Yosher which makes more sense. You may want to try that.
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Re: Davidic Ancestry in the First Century?
#general
isak@bm.technion.ac.il
I totally agree with Jeff. Besides the high probability that there has never been a King David, at least in the form described in our "Tanach", there is a vast literature on Branching processes starting with "the rate of extinction of surnames along the generations" by Galton and Watson, 1875. It has been further shown that for a generation duration of around 25 years, and given a certain "David", after 500-800 years the whole population will be his descendants. Even if we consider "Assortative mating" (Endogamy), common to very many Jewish communities, this process of disseminating the "Davidic" traits is only moderately delayed. We used this modelling to understand the spreading of mutations typical for the Jewish population, and gave an example of the spreading of the genetic disease FMF (Familial Mediterranean Fever). See: Levi and Gath, Effects of mating patterns on genealogical trees: Assessment of the high carrier rate of Familial Mediterranean Fever in rural Israeli districts, Journal of Theoretical Biology, 443 (2018) 92–99.
Prof. Isak Gath MD, DIC, DSc Faculty of Biomedical Engineering Tel. Office #972-4-8294115 Technion Israel Institute of Technology Home #972-4-9835704 32000 Haifa, Israel
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Re: What Do You Pay a Translator for a 50 Page Document in Pollsh
#translation
My translator from Old German/Modern German to English charges $2 per page. I think that's very fair.
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Re: help with translation
#bessarabia
#yiddish
ryabinkym@...
In Russian:
На долгую память дорогой мамочке от младшей дочери Раи. Мама
Если встретиться нам не придется,
Если наша судьба такова,
Пусть на память тебе остается
Неподвижная личность моя.
Станция Исеть, 12 мая 1952 г.
На вечную долгую память брату и снохе от сестры Раи.
Пройдут быть может сколько лет
И вами буду забыта
Пусть карточки оставит след
Что вместе было пережито.
Станция Исеть, 26/12/54
In English: For a long memory, dear mother from the youngest daughter Raya.
Mum
If we don’t have to meet,
If our fate is this
Let you remember
My still person.
Iset Station, May 12, 1952
To the eternal long memory of his brother and daughter-in-law from Sister Raya.
Maybe how many years will pass
And you will be forgotten
Let the cards leave a mark
What was experienced together.
Iset Station, 26/12/54
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Re: Samovics family from Benedike/Benedikovce/Benedykivtsi
#hungary
Jacob Heisler
There are two places I'd recommend going for Benedike records:
1. https://sub-carpathia-genealogy.org/default.htm which has a database of a ton of records from Subcarpathia, the area in modern-day Ukraine that was formerly part of the Kingdom of Hungary pre-WW1 and Czechoslovakia in the inter-war period. The database itself is free, but it closets $15.75 to order the record itself. For Benedike they do have a bunch of birth records available, and when I searched for Samovics I found a number of records, with two sets of parents for the records: Herman and an Izraelovics (who had children between 1881-1903), and Pinkas and an Engelman (who had children between 1928-1932). 2. https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%BE#%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%82%D1%8F or the Ukrainian WIkipedia page for Shtetl. For the last several years, Jewish records have been digitized from all over Ukraine and uploaded to the page, including a significant number of Subcarpathian records. Google Translate can translate the page into English, and while the records themselves aren't text-searchable the Subcarpathian records are in the Latin alphabet and it's fairly simple to scroll through the pages until you find what you're looking for. They have Benedike records from 1863-1895, which should include both birth records mentioned in the Sub-Carpatia website I mentioned before along with marriage and death records that are not in the database. Fair warning, a significant number of those records are for towns part of the Benedike district. To sum up, you can get Benedike up to 1895 for free from the Wikipedia page, but after that you'd need to buy them from the Sub-Carpathia website. I hope that helps! From, Jacob Heisler Boston, MA On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:39 PM t s via groups.jewishgen.org <samo1067=yahoo.com@...> wrote:
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#translation #poland
#translation
#poland
@JulieZ
Hi, I posted some documents for translation on Viewmate. They are Polish Book of Resident entires written in Russian. I would appreciate any help in translating,
thank you! Julie Zack https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=81979 https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=81980 https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=81981 https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=81982 https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=78844 Moderator Note: Please use the ViewMate response box or reply privately
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Prisoner-Hidden Items Found at Auschwitz
#holocaust
#poland
Jan Meisels Allen
Items hidden by Auschwitz prisoners were recovered from a chimney in the concentration camp. The objects were found in Block 17 of the former Main Camp at Auschwitz as part of the renovation work undertaken by Austria’s National Fund for the vVctims of Nazism. Prisoners with special manual skills were housed in the building where the items were found.
Original url:
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Fold3 Free Access Through May 25
#events
Jan Meisels Allen
Fold3, a member of the Ancestry family of companies, is offering free access to its collection of 550 million records until 25 May 2020 at 11:59 p.m. ET. After the free access period ends, you will only be able to view the records in the featured collections using a paid Ancestry® All-Access or Fold3® membership.
Go to https://go.fold3.com/freeaccess
You can view without registering,. If you want to print or download you need to register with your name, email address and password. See the tool icon on the upper right side of the screen.
I have no affiliation with Fold3 or Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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MNJGS “Finding Treasure in the Archives” May 24, 1pm CDT
#events
casson123@...
On May 24, 2020 from 1:00 PM – 2:30 PM, The Minnesota Jewish Genealogical Society, the Berman Upper Midwest Jewish Archives and TC Jewfolk will be hosting Kate Dietrick and Susan Weinberg speaking on Finding Treasure in the Archives. The meeting will be held online and a link will be provided upon registration.
Register at https://www.mnjgs.org/event
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