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Ukrainian birthplace for one great uncle from Northern Lithuania #lithuania #ukraine

Michele Lock
 

I have been researching the history of the Lak/Lock family of Gruzd/Zagare, Lithuania, near the Latvian border area. All nine siblings in the family, born circa 1885-1905, list Gruzd or nearby towns as their birthplace on various documents, except for one younger brother, born in 1902 and who emigrated in 1923. This brother lists 'Slaviansk' as his birthplace, both on his ship passenger list in 1923, and on his 1942 US draft card.

Could Slaviansk, in the southern Ukraine, be the place where the family was exiled to during WW I? I know that the Jews were forced to leave Lithuania and were deported into inner parts of the Russian empire during this time. I also noticed on the ship manifest that he lists his nationality as Russian, and not Lithuanian. I suspect that he had difficulty getting Lithuanian citizenship, and may have been forced to declare himself a Russian citizen, and then made to declare a Russian birthplace.

Thanks for any input on this.     Michele Lock,  Alexandria, VA

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Re: Morgen Zhurnal #yiddish #usa

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
Dear Fred, 
In France, each new publication, newspaper, book,... must do a legal deposit of one or two items to French National Library.
It was a way to get free a sample of any new publication.
I don't know if same legal obligation was in USA : in past ? now ?
You could ask Library of Congress, New York Public Library and of course Yivo.
And why not "Forward / Forverts", oldest Yiddish newspaper (1897) still printed in NYC.
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives and history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen Circle) of France

Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czechTo the best of my knowledge these records are available in one of two locations #austria-czech

Daniella Alyagon
 


1. IKG archive in Vienna, Austria
2. CAHJP in Jerusalem, Israel

I have viewed these records during a visit to the IKG archive last year.

Daniella Alyagon

Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), YELIN (Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)


Morgen Zhurnal #yiddish #usa

flmillner@...
 

Hi!
My great-uncle Isaac Jacob Milner contributed to the Yiddish New York newspaper Morgen Zhurnal, which began publishing in 1901.  Microfilmed copies only exist from 1906.  Isaac Jacob died in 1905.  Is it possible that paper copies of the first years have been stashed away somewhere?  

Thanks,
Fred Millner

Re: Sharing family tree information #general

Carolyn Lea
 

Reba,

I totally agree with you. I sent some of my research - which I do not post online but share with family members that are interested - and My elderly cousin's son took my work and posted it online without asking or crediting my many years of research. Unfortunately, this has made me less willing to share. I never share living people. 

Judy Russell did a post on this several years ago along with a discussion of plagiarism and copyright.

Carolyn Lea (Schwarzbaum)
Schwarzbaum (Posen) Lewinsohn- Levison (Elbing) Rothschild (Germany) Basch (Poland/England) Hammerstein (Poland)

 

Thank you - Re:SAMOVICS family from Benedike/Benedikovce/Benedykivtsi #holocaust #hungary #ukraine

t s
 

 
Thank you to all those who kindly replied to my request. Your information was very helpful and much appreciated!
 
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From: t s <samo1067@...>
To: "main@..." <main@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020, 02:43:42 PM PDT
Subject: Samovics family from Benedike/Benedikovce/Benedykivtsi
 
Based on ship manifest records from 1899-1909 and from the Auschwitz-Buchenwald Transport during January 22 & 26, 1945, I discovered that my Samovics relatives were from Benedike (a.k.a. Benedikovce during WW II) in what was then part of Hungary (it is now part of the Ukraine and is referred to as Benedykivtsi). I am looking for advice about how to specifically access records from this town. 
 
Thanks,
Todd Samovitz

Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #general #warsaw

Stanley Diamond
 

 Elizabeth Jackson wrote/asked

    " I have received a birth record from Warsaw for my Great Aunt. 

    It was registered three months following the event.

    Why might they have waited so long to report it?"  ======÷=÷÷>

The answer to this question related to the Jewish records of Poland are

included the JRI-Poland's Frequently Asked Questions available at

https://jri-poland.org/jriplfaq.htm 

What Information is Included in the Search Results?

A search of the database will usually produce results that include the surname and first name of an individual, the year of registration of the event, the type of event (birth, marriage, death designated by the abbreviations B, M, or D), the town or village where the event occurred, and the AKT (certificate) number for the year of registration. For some towns/years the search results will include additional information such as father's name, mother's name, mother's maiden name, age at death, etc.

It is important to note that many life-cycle events - particularly births - often were not registered during the actual year the event occurred. Registration for births, for example, could have taken place years or decades after the actual birth. In addition, families sometimes registered several or all of their children at one time. The database search results might indicate an abundance of births in the same year for the same family. Be mindful that multiple same-year registrations for a family did not necessarily indicate the birth of twins, triplets, or quadruplets.

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)

Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
 
 
 
 
 

Re: Sharing family tree information #general

Jonathan Jacobs
 

Just in case you didn't know this.  If you mark someone as 'living', details including names are marked as private.  So people will not see the names or dates.  Just gender.
 
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Jonathan Jacobs, Computer Technician
Amateur Genealogist  - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Re: Davidic Ancestry in the First Century? #general

rv Kaplan
 

Marcel

As far as I know, it's a myth that the Duchess of Cambridge is Jewish. eg see:


I'm sure that if it was definite, we would know about it and be reminded constantly.

Harvey Kaplan

Glasgow, Scotland


On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 17:34, Marcel Apsel <marcap@...> wrote:

Yale Zuss has at least the honesty to say he was not claiming that he is of Davidic descent.  Me too.  A major problem in Jewish genealogy is that some people are desperate to be linked to a famous scholar and it happens quite often that even some rabbis are fabricating genealogies through syllogism, by using distorted analyses.  And those distorted analyses will be used in the future as correct facts  I see it often in geni, were for example, a son is born 30 years after the mother passed away, or a girl named after a living mother (Ashkenazi) etc …

I heard once that even the British royal family claims to be of Davidic descent.  I do not know it this is through or not; anyhow impossible to prove.  One thing is for sure : the third heir of the British crown, prince George is Jewish; his mother princess Kate is Jewish, because princess Kate’s mother was a Goldsmith and from Jewish descent.  In Great Britain a lot of politicians are of Jewish descent.  Order, order, John Bercow, former speaker of the Parliament is a descendant of Romanian Jews.  Etc. etc …

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerp, Belgium  

Re: Need help to decode abreviations & symbols on Detained Alien Passenger List #usa

David Oseas
 

See these two pages for a description of the markings (https://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/bsi/ ) and common abbreviations used (https://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/glossary.html )

Without seeing an image of the manifest, it is difficult to say with certainty.  Are you sure that "JPG" isn't "LPC" (likely to be public charge)?  1140 is the time of the BSI hearing.  Monn is likely the surname of the inspector.

Regards, David Oseas

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Re: Suwalki-Lomza Landsmen Journal #poland

ireneplotzker@...
 

Il y a un groupe ici:  https://www.jewishgen.org/SuwalkLomza/

Bonne chance et Shabbat shalom,

Irene Greenwald Plotzker    <ireneplotzker@...>

Polish Translation Request - 2 Archival Records ViewMate #poland #translation

Nomi Waksberg
 

Hope you and your families are all safe and healthy.

This sheltering in time has given me an opportunity to review and edit family archival records.
I've come across two which have been previously submitted but were not translated. I'm not
sure why. If it's a legibility issue, please let me know.
I hope someone has the time to review the following records.

They are posted on VIEWMATE:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72182
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72186

Please include
_ all names noted, including mother's maiden names if they are included
_ all dates
_ locations
_occupations / trades if they are noted

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.   Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg

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Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Hello Leah,

What you are looking for are called Emigration Questionnaires in English translation. They were administered by the Israelitisches Kultusgemeinde Wien and copies have been available from them. I have obtained copies for many, but not all, of my relatives. These documents are full of family information and some depressing thoughts by the applicants. Last time I checked, there was some confusion about how they were indexed. Those indexed by name were readily available; those indexed by date were difficult to obtain. Write to s.uslu-pauer@... for information on your relatives.

Good luck,

Tom Weiss
Needham, MA

Re: Davidic Ancestry in the First Century? #general

Marcel Apsel
 

Yale Zuss has at least the honesty to say he was not claiming that he is of Davidic descent.  Me too.  A major problem in Jewish genealogy is that some people are desperate to be linked to a famous scholar and it happens quite often that even some rabbis are fabricating genealogies through syllogism, by using distorted analyses.  And those distorted analyses will be used in the future as correct facts  I see it often in geni, were for example, a son is born 30 years after the mother passed away, or a girl named after a living mother (Ashkenazi) etc …

I heard once that even the British royal family claims to be of Davidic descent.  I do not know it this is through or not; anyhow impossible to prove.  One thing is for sure : the third heir of the British crown, prince George is Jewish; his mother princess Kate is Jewish, because princess Kate’s mother was a Goldsmith and from Jewish descent.  In Great Britain a lot of politicians are of Jewish descent.  Order, order, John Bercow, former speaker of the Parliament is a descendant of Romanian Jews.  Etc. etc …

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerp, Belgium  

Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

rv Kaplan
 

My great aunt, Golda Felman, was born in 1886 in Kaminets-Podolsk, Ukraine, but her birth certificate was obtained in 1906 - the year she left for Scotland.
 
My great grandfather, Wolf Linderman, was born in Plock, Poland in 1868 or 1870 (depending on whether you believe the Book of Residents), but he and his siblings had their births registered in 1881 - I suspect shortly before they departed for London.
 
They probably thought they might need these documents in their new homes.
 

Harvey L Kaplan,  Glasgow, Scotland   <rvlkaplan@...>

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Karen Lukeman
 

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Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czech

Renée K. Carl
 

I believe, but I am not certain, that the exit questionnaires are available at USHMM via the library, but you cannot access them online for privacy reasons. Not all families were included in the exist forms. If I remember correctly if the family received assistance from the IKG, they had a questionnaire. It's been a while since I have worked on these records. Others might have more info.

If the family had money/property, then also consult Res als Unrecht. The index is online https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=20603 but the records are stored in Vienna. I believe I found your family in them but you will need to check the birthdates.

I hope this helps,   Renee Carl,  Washington DC   <rkcarl@...>

Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"It was registered three months following the event.  Why might they have waited so long to report it?"
 
Why would a Jew register their births at all in Russia (or elsewhere in Europe)? Birth records were used to draft boys and tax families. Civil marriages were sometimes heavily taxed or even banned, so the children were recorded as illegitimate. So why would you do it.
 
In the US today, almost all births are in hospitals, so it is done for you, by the hospital (or midwife, if she is licensed); this is the law, and nobody objects to it. Russia was different because nobody trusted the government.
 
I have seen records of people with birth records registered 20 or more years later, because, perhaps, they need it to marry - if they want to marry civilly.  I had a (female) cousin who was a lawyer in New York nearly 100 years ago, and she had to get a birth record from Russia to prove whatever to take the bar exam. I have a copy of it. It wasn't done at the time of her birth but long after, but it satisfied the requirement, apparently.
 
Sally Bruckheimer,  Princeton, NJ  <sallybruc@...>

Re: "Mother" (But Not "Husband") On a Married Woman's Grave #general

rhonda.post@...
 

Meron Lavie wrote: "I recently found a photo of a relative's grave, a married woman with a young child, who died in 1910.The headstone has "BELOVED MOTHER" inscribed above the woman's name, and concludes at the bottom with "MOTHER". The woman was married and the husband was still alive and healthy when she died.Is there any significance to the fact she is not described as "BELOVED HUSBAND" and "HUSBAND", as well? Am I reading too much into this?   I already have some other strong circumstantial evidence that this guy was not "Husband of the Year" material.==================>

Hello Meron:

I have two comments on your post.

1. If the woman's grave has Beloved Mother, it means the deceased is a female. Therefore, it would never say Husband. It would say Wife.

2. Have you looked at when the husband died? I found my great-grandmother's grave and it also said only Mother. When she passed away, she was a grandmother as well as a great-grandmother. Her husband had died decades before. Her sons paid for the grave stone. It is my guess they thought of her as their mother and therefore that is what was put on her marker. I am unsure if the cost would have been extra to add the additional titles and therefore Mother was sufficient.

I hope this helps.    Rhonda Post    Rhonda.Post@...

Re: Need help to decode abreviations & symbols on Detained Alien Passenger List #usa

Kenneth Ryesky
 

Thanks.

My grandfather's Ellis Island "Cause of Detention" codes are "JPG      1140      Monn".

Any ideas as to what they mean?   He apparently was released the next day.
--
Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
kenneth.ryesky@...

Belarus:  Gomel:  RAISKY, SHKOLNIK(OV), ARONOV, AEROV

Ukraine:  Yelizavetgrad:  Broad/Brodsky (also Odessa), Gertzig/Gertzog
Ukraine/Russia/Turkey:  Yevpatoriya:  Israelson, Arshenov