Date   
Morgen Zhurnal #yiddish #usa

flmillner@...
 

Hi!
My great-uncle Isaac Jacob Milner contributed to the Yiddish New York newspaper Morgen Zhurnal, which began publishing in 1901.  Microfilmed copies only exist from 1906.  Isaac Jacob died in 1905.  Is it possible that paper copies of the first years have been stashed away somewhere?  

Thanks,
Fred Millner

Re: Sharing family tree information #general

Carolyn Lea
 

Reba,

I totally agree with you. I sent some of my research - which I do not post online but share with family members that are interested - and My elderly cousin's son took my work and posted it online without asking or crediting my many years of research. Unfortunately, this has made me less willing to share. I never share living people. 

Judy Russell did a post on this several years ago along with a discussion of plagiarism and copyright.

Carolyn Lea (Schwarzbaum)
Schwarzbaum (Posen) Lewinsohn- Levison (Elbing) Rothschild (Germany) Basch (Poland/England) Hammerstein (Poland)

 

Thank you - Re:SAMOVICS family from Benedike/Benedikovce/Benedykivtsi #holocaust #hungary #ukraine

t s
 

 
Thank you to all those who kindly replied to my request. Your information was very helpful and much appreciated!
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020, 02:43:42 PM PDT
Subject: Samovics family from Benedike/Benedikovce/Benedykivtsi
 
Based on ship manifest records from 1899-1909 and from the Auschwitz-Buchenwald Transport during January 22 & 26, 1945, I discovered that my Samovics relatives were from Benedike (a.k.a. Benedikovce during WW II) in what was then part of Hungary (it is now part of the Ukraine and is referred to as Benedykivtsi). I am looking for advice about how to specifically access records from this town. 
 
Thanks,
Todd Samovitz

Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #general #warsaw

Stanley Diamond
 

 Elizabeth Jackson wrote/asked

    " I have received a birth record from Warsaw for my Great Aunt. 

    It was registered three months following the event.

    Why might they have waited so long to report it?"  ======÷=÷÷>

The answer to this question related to the Jewish records of Poland are

included the JRI-Poland's Frequently Asked Questions available at

https://jri-poland.org/jriplfaq.htm 

What Information is Included in the Search Results?

A search of the database will usually produce results that include the surname and first name of an individual, the year of registration of the event, the type of event (birth, marriage, death designated by the abbreviations B, M, or D), the town or village where the event occurred, and the AKT (certificate) number for the year of registration. For some towns/years the search results will include additional information such as father's name, mother's name, mother's maiden name, age at death, etc.

It is important to note that many life-cycle events - particularly births - often were not registered during the actual year the event occurred. Registration for births, for example, could have taken place years or decades after the actual birth. In addition, families sometimes registered several or all of their children at one time. The database search results might indicate an abundance of births in the same year for the same family. Be mindful that multiple same-year registrations for a family did not necessarily indicate the birth of twins, triplets, or quadruplets.

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)

Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
 
 
 
 
 

Re: Sharing family tree information #general

Jonathan Jacobs
 

Just in case you didn't know this.  If you mark someone as 'living', details including names are marked as private.  So people will not see the names or dates.  Just gender.
 
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Jonathan Jacobs, Computer Technician
Amateur Genealogist  - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Re: Davidic Ancestry in the First Century? #general

rv Kaplan
 

Marcel

As far as I know, it's a myth that the Duchess of Cambridge is Jewish. eg see:


I'm sure that if it was definite, we would know about it and be reminded constantly.

Harvey Kaplan

Glasgow, Scotland


On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 17:34, Marcel Apsel <marcap@...> wrote:

Yale Zuss has at least the honesty to say he was not claiming that he is of Davidic descent.  Me too.  A major problem in Jewish genealogy is that some people are desperate to be linked to a famous scholar and it happens quite often that even some rabbis are fabricating genealogies through syllogism, by using distorted analyses.  And those distorted analyses will be used in the future as correct facts  I see it often in geni, were for example, a son is born 30 years after the mother passed away, or a girl named after a living mother (Ashkenazi) etc …

I heard once that even the British royal family claims to be of Davidic descent.  I do not know it this is through or not; anyhow impossible to prove.  One thing is for sure : the third heir of the British crown, prince George is Jewish; his mother princess Kate is Jewish, because princess Kate’s mother was a Goldsmith and from Jewish descent.  In Great Britain a lot of politicians are of Jewish descent.  Order, order, John Bercow, former speaker of the Parliament is a descendant of Romanian Jews.  Etc. etc …

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerp, Belgium  

Re: Need help to decode abreviations & symbols on Detained Alien Passenger List #usa

David Oseas
 

See these two pages for a description of the markings (https://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/bsi/ ) and common abbreviations used (https://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/glossary.html )

Without seeing an image of the manifest, it is difficult to say with certainty.  Are you sure that "JPG" isn't "LPC" (likely to be public charge)?  1140 is the time of the BSI hearing.  Monn is likely the surname of the inspector.

Regards, David Oseas

List the surnames/towns that you are researching in the JewishGen Family Finder.
Go to https://www.jewishgen.org/jgff and click on ENTER/MODIFY.

Re: Suwalki-Lomza Landsmen Journal #poland

ireneplotzker@...
 

Il y a un groupe ici:  https://www.jewishgen.org/SuwalkLomza/

Bonne chance et Shabbat shalom,

Irene Greenwald Plotzker    <ireneplotzker@...>

Polish Translation Request - 2 Archival Records ViewMate #poland #translation

Nomi Waksberg
 

Hope you and your families are all safe and healthy.

This sheltering in time has given me an opportunity to review and edit family archival records.
I've come across two which have been previously submitted but were not translated. I'm not
sure why. If it's a legibility issue, please let me know.
I hope someone has the time to review the following records.

They are posted on VIEWMATE:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72182
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72186

Please include
_ all names noted, including mother's maiden names if they are included
_ all dates
_ locations
_occupations / trades if they are noted

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.   Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg

List the surnames/towns that you are researching in the JewishGen Family Finder.
Go to https://www.jewishgen.org/jgff and click on ENTER/MODIFY.

Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Hello Leah,

What you are looking for are called Emigration Questionnaires in English translation. They were administered by the Israelitisches Kultusgemeinde Wien and copies have been available from them. I have obtained copies for many, but not all, of my relatives. These documents are full of family information and some depressing thoughts by the applicants. Last time I checked, there was some confusion about how they were indexed. Those indexed by name were readily available; those indexed by date were difficult to obtain. Write to s.uslu-pauer@... for information on your relatives.

Good luck,

Tom Weiss
Needham, MA

Re: Davidic Ancestry in the First Century? #general

Marcel Apsel
 

Yale Zuss has at least the honesty to say he was not claiming that he is of Davidic descent.  Me too.  A major problem in Jewish genealogy is that some people are desperate to be linked to a famous scholar and it happens quite often that even some rabbis are fabricating genealogies through syllogism, by using distorted analyses.  And those distorted analyses will be used in the future as correct facts  I see it often in geni, were for example, a son is born 30 years after the mother passed away, or a girl named after a living mother (Ashkenazi) etc …

I heard once that even the British royal family claims to be of Davidic descent.  I do not know it this is through or not; anyhow impossible to prove.  One thing is for sure : the third heir of the British crown, prince George is Jewish; his mother princess Kate is Jewish, because princess Kate’s mother was a Goldsmith and from Jewish descent.  In Great Britain a lot of politicians are of Jewish descent.  Order, order, John Bercow, former speaker of the Parliament is a descendant of Romanian Jews.  Etc. etc …

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerp, Belgium  

Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

rv Kaplan
 

My great aunt, Golda Felman, was born in 1886 in Kaminets-Podolsk, Ukraine, but her birth certificate was obtained in 1906 - the year she left for Scotland.
 
My great grandfather, Wolf Linderman, was born in Plock, Poland in 1868 or 1870 (depending on whether you believe the Book of Residents), but he and his siblings had their births registered in 1881 - I suspect shortly before they departed for London.
 
They probably thought they might need these documents in their new homes.
 

Harvey L Kaplan,  Glasgow, Scotland   <rvlkaplan@...>

List the surnames/towns that you are researching in the JewishGen Family Finder.
Go to https://www.jewishgen.org/jgff and click on ENTER/MODIFY.

MyHeritage Special for FTDNA members

Karen Lukeman
 

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Re: Austria, Vienna: Exit questionnaire & visa documents #austria-czech

Renée K. Carl
 

I believe, but I am not certain, that the exit questionnaires are available at USHMM via the library, but you cannot access them online for privacy reasons. Not all families were included in the exist forms. If I remember correctly if the family received assistance from the IKG, they had a questionnaire. It's been a while since I have worked on these records. Others might have more info.

If the family had money/property, then also consult Res als Unrecht. The index is online https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=20603 but the records are stored in Vienna. I believe I found your family in them but you will need to check the birthdates.

I hope this helps,   Renee Carl,  Washington DC   <rkcarl@...>

Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"It was registered three months following the event.  Why might they have waited so long to report it?"
 
Why would a Jew register their births at all in Russia (or elsewhere in Europe)? Birth records were used to draft boys and tax families. Civil marriages were sometimes heavily taxed or even banned, so the children were recorded as illegitimate. So why would you do it.
 
In the US today, almost all births are in hospitals, so it is done for you, by the hospital (or midwife, if she is licensed); this is the law, and nobody objects to it. Russia was different because nobody trusted the government.
 
I have seen records of people with birth records registered 20 or more years later, because, perhaps, they need it to marry - if they want to marry civilly.  I had a (female) cousin who was a lawyer in New York nearly 100 years ago, and she had to get a birth record from Russia to prove whatever to take the bar exam. I have a copy of it. It wasn't done at the time of her birth but long after, but it satisfied the requirement, apparently.
 
Sally Bruckheimer,  Princeton, NJ  <sallybruc@...>

Re: "Mother" (But Not "Husband") On a Married Woman's Grave #general

rhonda.post@...
 

Meron Lavie wrote: "I recently found a photo of a relative's grave, a married woman with a young child, who died in 1910.The headstone has "BELOVED MOTHER" inscribed above the woman's name, and concludes at the bottom with "MOTHER". The woman was married and the husband was still alive and healthy when she died.Is there any significance to the fact she is not described as "BELOVED HUSBAND" and "HUSBAND", as well? Am I reading too much into this?   I already have some other strong circumstantial evidence that this guy was not "Husband of the Year" material.==================>

Hello Meron:

I have two comments on your post.

1. If the woman's grave has Beloved Mother, it means the deceased is a female. Therefore, it would never say Husband. It would say Wife.

2. Have you looked at when the husband died? I found my great-grandmother's grave and it also said only Mother. When she passed away, she was a grandmother as well as a great-grandmother. Her husband had died decades before. Her sons paid for the grave stone. It is my guess they thought of her as their mother and therefore that is what was put on her marker. I am unsure if the cost would have been extra to add the additional titles and therefore Mother was sufficient.

I hope this helps.    Rhonda Post    Rhonda.Post@...

Re: Need help to decode abreviations & symbols on Detained Alien Passenger List #usa

Kenneth Ryesky
 

Thanks.

My grandfather's Ellis Island "Cause of Detention" codes are "JPG      1140      Monn".

Any ideas as to what they mean?   He apparently was released the next day.
--
Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
kenneth.ryesky@...

Belarus:  Gomel:  RAISKY, SHKOLNIK(OV), ARONOV, AEROV

Ukraine:  Yelizavetgrad:  Broad/Brodsky (also Odessa), Gertzig/Gertzog
Ukraine/Russia/Turkey:  Yevpatoriya:  Israelson, Arshenov

Re: Domestic visas #austria-czech

Michael Hoffman
 

 Peter Heilbrunn wrote:  My mother came to England from Vienna in April 1939 on a so called Domestic Visa or Green Card. I have learnt a lot about refugees from Austria who came to England but never found a sample of a Domestic Visa. Does anyone know where I could find one?   ===============>

Hi Peter,
I have a copy of a Domestic Permit issued by the Ministry of Labour & National Service for a relative of mine who originally
arrived in the UK in 1946.

Contact me privately and I will send you a copy. This permit was amongst this persons Naturalisation Papers at the UK National Archives in Kew.

Regards,   Michael Hoffman,   Borehamwood,  HERTS, UK.  <mikeh25@...>

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #lithuania #yizkorbooks

Bruce Drake
 

A section of the Yizkor book of Švencionys, Lithuania is titled “Heroism.” It contains the accounts of “the Jewish heroes from the region about the daily battle they fought in the ranks of the various partisan units within the regular Lithuanian division. In simple language, in plain words, the heroes, these heroes recount their experiences.“

The subject of “The Revenge on this Bright Day” was an odious Nazi named Freidrich Olin (I could not find out any more about him) who showed up in Sventzian in “a dark, chequered suit, recently pressed, his patent leather shoes stepping lightly, quietly shining from far away.” He had brought with him a new camera and the ensuing slaughter that he oversaw was, for him, like a “suspense film never seen on screen. He is enraptured.”

A young partisan named Shimon tells his commander: “For our tortured people, for those who were murdered – I shall kill and the enemy will be defeated. I promise you, Comrade commander, Olin will not escape my hands!…”

He was true to his word.


URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/3055881134434021?__tn__=K-R


Bruce Drake

Silver Spring MD

Re: Need help to decode abreviations & symbols on Detained Alien Passenger List #usa

Marian
 

RR is for "railroad."  In this case, a woman and her daughter traveling alone, it probably means they were released to the custody of the railroad for delivery to the waiting relative.  In some such cases the railroad company was required to return a receipt to the Immigration Service documenting the immigrants were delivered to said relative at the destination.  Some railroad lines employed women "matrons" to ride the trains and accompany groups of women and children "traveling alone" and deliver them at stops along the route.

Marian <portofentry@...>
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