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1918 flu pandemic lists #general

mikesammy1944@...
 

I and my brothers believe both of our grandfathers perished in 1918 flu epidemic in Chicago (one died in1918, the other died in 1920). Is there any source where I can find specific names of people who died from the flu. Obituaries are of no use since it's rare they would mention the cause of death (same as today).
I'd appreciate any help you can give.

Mike Samson.


Re: Jewish Argentinians #latinamerica

erikagottfried53@...
 

It's hardly surprising that this would be a problem any immigrant community suffering from extreme poverty, deprivation, and discrimination.  What IS surprising is how many people in these communities were able to escape the snares of crime and poverty and survive to take care of themselves and their families. 

I recommend two additional sources on the subject of Jewish prostitution in the early 20th century:  The Maimie Papers --  a correspondence between a wealthy female philanthropist and Maimie Pinzer, a Jewish prostitute living in Philadelphia and recovering from a morphine addiction. ("The Maimie Papers is Maimie’s side of that correspondence, a ... unique account of the life of a woman of the streets and her inspiring transformation." ); also Hugh Nissenson's (1976) excellent, vividly imagined novel, My Own Ground (set in the Lower East Side). 
--
Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey


Re: Fani Jurowics in NY with Berta Davidowitz : Ship Manifest #general

Diane Jacobs
 

Looks like 120 Varick or Third street.

Diane Jacobs 



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From: Moishe Miller <moishe.miller@...>
Date: 5/25/20 1:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Fani Jurowics in NY with Berta Davidowitz : Ship Manifest #general

Dear Group,
My cousin, Fani Jurovits (born 1887), arrived in NY on the Bremen, 24 Sep 1913. Fani was my great-grandfather's baby sister. It was nice to see Fani's father as the last address in Europe. Moses Jurovics, her father, was my g-g-gf, and my namesake.

On the second page of the manifest (attached), Line 26 has Fani listed, together with her cousin, Berta Davidowitz, as going to some address that starts with 120, perhaps Nevins. I am trying to make out the name of her cousin that was her destination, as well as the address. The name is overwrittne. Can anyone read the destination?
The supposed cousin never showed up and Fani and Berta DAVIDOWITZ were released to the Clara de Hirsch Home (see the detained passenger list, attached).

I also checked the Bremen departure lists, but for 1913, they only seem to start in October, and there is a gap back to 1908.

I have found Fani's 1919 NY marriage to Jacob Zeisler, a widower. I would like to find out who this "destination" cousin was and, where was Fani between 1913 and 1919, and how were Fani and Berta related.

Thank you. Stay safe, stay healthy,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@...
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: More about unwed mothers: #germany #general

mbrav@...
 

My GGGM Maria Schnurmann (maiden name) lived 1800 to 1881, in Schmieheim, Baden, and is buried in the Schmieheim Jewish cemetery.  She is not listed in the town records as having a husband.  If she had been married to a man also named Schnurmann I would expect to find that in the town records, which seem accurate in all respects.  She had three children so it seems to me unlikely she was an unwed mother three times over.  Could she have married outside the Jewish faith?  If so, would that have not been recorded?  Is there any other reason she might not have a husband recorded in the town records?

Michael Braverman


Re: Nowy Dwow #russia

Alexander Sharon
 

Peter,

You should concentrate on the "Jewish" Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki. For this JewishGen Gazetteer and JewishGen Family Finder are very helpful.


Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki, Novy Dvor, Nowy Dwór populated place 52°26' N 20°43' E G Poland 17.4 miles NW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°00' E

 


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Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB



Re: Illegitimate births circa 1840 #germany

Ernst-Peter Winter
 

My g.g.grandfather ...
... was serving
as a Chazen and had to have the entire community sign an
official paper saying that they would continue to support
him. ( I have this document if anyone wants to see it.)
I would be glad to get a scan of the document.
Unfortunately, such documents are very rare in the municipal
archives, although they were certainly frequent.

BTW: Since the Rhine became the border between Hesse and
Rhineland-Palatinate, all suburbs on the right side of the
Rhine were separated from Mainz. The stations in these
villages kept their names, so that the railway station is
still Mainz-Bischofsheim.

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster, Hesse


Re: Illegitimate births circa 1840 #germany

Ernst-Peter Winter
 

I think it is very dangerous to judge rules and laws without
knowledge of the exact wording, time and territory, or to
draw general conclusions from them.

The beginning of the 19th century in particular brought very
great upheavals in Germany - from the end of serfdom to the
entitlement to certain rights. Not to forget the changes
brought about by the French Revolution and the rule of
Napoleon. It should be noted that the individual countries
of Germany were autonomous and had their own legislation. A
completely different question is how the local authorities
applied the laws and whether it was possible to appeal
against them to a higher instance and perhaps obtain justice
there. Generalizations often lead to prejudices that are
then difficult to dispel.

The situation of the Jews in Germany has certainly improved
more slowly during this period than that of the rest of the
ordinary population. And as always: some worked for it,
others against it. In my place of residence, a Jewish woman
left money to poor Christians in her will. She said that she
had also received much good things from Christians.
Certainly an exception - but also a reality.

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster, Hesse


searching for Brill and Zeid family from Ukraine #ukraine

Brill, J W.
 

I’m searching for information about Isaac Brill,from Bar, Ukraine, whose son Abram immigrated to USA in 1909.  Isaac’s wife was Fannie Dentmgmanz (sp)?

Also about Solomn Zeid, from Brailiv, Ukraine, whose wife was Belle Nerdoff and whose daughter, Sophie, immigrated to USA in 1909-1911.


Reb Aryah Lev Buchman & wife Sora Buchman of Starokonstantyn. #latinamerica #names #ukraine

@Pixitidbit
 

Searching for any mention of my G Grandparents who might have lived in Kuzmyn, in 1800's. Aryeh (Louis) was a rabbi. Daughter was Bess (or Rebecca) who married Sam (Schlomo?) Shectman. 


Re: Did my husband's family from Galicia have Sephardic roots? #sephardic #galicia

David Ziants
 

I had a quick look through a DYM family on Geni and noticed that one of these is married to a member of the TOLEDANO family - a well known Moroccan Rabbinic family. So maybe your husband has also this family in his blood.
These are probably living people so the profiles are kept private there, but try and contact the profile mangers on the following profile:-
https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000114415604821
Also, I found the kohanic family on Geni, so you might want to ask if the profile manager on the above link knows if/how his family is connected to the big family.

I also found the following:-
https://www.health.gov.il/Subjects/Genetics/Documents/book_jews.pdf
Look at page 67:-
<<<Molecular genetics and epidemiology: DYM gene (chromosomal locus 18q12-q21.1) In a Moroccan Jewish family six out of 10 sibling were affected. No molecular studies have been reported.>>>
The name of the gene might be that because it was discovered by O. Dym - see page 82, thus no relevance to the family, but the people who asked your husband might have had this information and wanted to find out whether there was a connection.

David Ziants
Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel
Researching: ZIANTS, ZENETSKY (SCHLOSBERG), ZIANTSCHIK, FRIEDMAN,  ISMACH (DAVIDSON, OSMAN) from Narewka, Bialystok, Lomza, Lodz, Bielsk, Warsaw; GEWELBA (GABLE,RAVELLE,GALE), SINGER from Warsaw; REINA from Netherlands; MICHAELS from UK & Western Europe; VIEYRA, JUDA-RODRIGUEZ from UK, Netherlands (as well as all other Dutch Sephardi families).

 


Re: ID card microfilms reels for Lodz ghetto workers: searching link in Polish State Archives web site #lodz #holocaust

Howard Fink
 

Last year JRI-Poland made available a complete extraction of more than 262,000 registration cards from Łodz, circa 1916-1921. You can read details about this enormous project here:
https://jri-poland.org/psa/lodz-registration-card-scans.htm

Search for names:
https://jri-poland.org/jriplweb.htm
[hint: specify the Geographical Region as 'Piotrków Gubernia' and the Record Type as 'Census / Books of Residents']

Your results will include a link to click which will take you directly to the high resolution (downloadable) scan of the original card at the Polish State Archives.


Re: : HIAS & Ethnic Bank records in Philadelphia, PA #belarus

benagen@...
 

I will be happy to pay a fee for a search for Auerbach records. My great-uncle Abraham Auerbach arrived in Philadelphia from Belaya Tserkov, then-Russia now-Ukraine, in 1906. Sam Auerbach, a relative of whom I know nothing, had probably lived in Philadelphia prior to 1906, he signed from Abraham on his citizenship application. Abraham lived in Philadelphia all his life, his son Solomon was a pharmacist.  


Re: Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #translation #russia #poland

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

231

Состоялось в городе Пжетборц двадцать первого декабря/второго января, тысяча восемьсот девяносто восьмого года, в три часа по полудни, явился еврей Мендель Розенфарб, торговец, тридцати двух лет от роду и в Пжетборце живущий, в присутсвии свидетелей евреев Абрама Зильберштейна, шестидесяти трех лет и Мендла Розенблата, пятидесяти шести лет от роду, торговцев и живущих в городе Пжетборц, предъявили нам мальчика и объявляя, что он родился четырнадцатого/двадцать шестого декабря, текущего года, в пять часов утра, от законной жены Эстер, урожденной Гутерман, тридцати двух лет от роду, и младенцу этому при обрезании совершенному сего дня, дано имя Фишель.  Акт сей присутствующим прочитан и затем нами и свидетелями подписан:   Являющимся безграмотным, Абрам Зильберштейн, Мендл Росенблат.

Бургомистр совершаущий акты гражданского состояния:   Подпись

 

In English:

231

Held in the city of Pzheborts on December 21 / January 2, one thousand eight hundred and ninety-eight, at three in the afternoon, a Jew, Mendel Rosenfarb, a merchant, thirty-two years old and living in Pzhetborets, was present, in the presence of Jewish witnesses Abram Zilberstein, sixty-three years old and Mendl Rosenblatt, fifty-six years old, merchants and living in the city of Pzheborts, presented us with a boy and announcing that he was born on the fourteenth / twenty-sixth of December of the current year, at five in the morning, from the lawful wife of Esther, nee Guterman, thirty-two years old, and this infant, when circumcised this day, is given the name Fishel. This act was read by those present and then signed by us and witnesses: Being illiterate, Abram Silberstein, Mendl Rosenblatt.

Civil Mayor: Signature

 


Entry permit/visa to Germany, period 1928-31 #germany #scandinavia

seth@...
 

Can anyone inform me where to find archival material for entry permits and/or visa to Germany during the period 1928-31? The person in question was a Swedish citizen and resident of Norway.


Seth Jacobson


Researching Stalavichy. Molczadski, Mohl #belarus

isabelle@...
 

I am researching my grandfather’s town of origin which is now called Stalavichy.  I am unable to find much about the Jewish community there in the late 1800’s.  Any suggestions would be most welcome.  My grandfather and his brother were apparently somewhat educated before they arrived in the US.  Grandfather studied at Cooper Union and became a civil engineer.  Great uncle was a pharmacist.  Would like to know more about how Jewish boys would have been educated in Stalavichy in late 1800’s.

Isabelle Selikoff


Fani Jurowics in NY with Berta Davidowitz : Ship Manifest #general

Moishe Miller
 

Dear Group,
My cousin, Fani Jurovits (born 1887), arrived in NY on the Bremen, 24 Sep 1913. Fani was my great-grandfather's baby sister. It was nice to see Fani's father as the last address in Europe. Moses Jurovics, her father, was my g-g-gf, and my namesake.

On the second page of the manifest (attached), Line 26 has Fani listed, together with her cousin, Berta Davidowitz, as going to some address that starts with 120, perhaps Nevins. I am trying to make out the name of her cousin that was her destination, as well as the address. The name is overwrittne. Can anyone read the destination?
The supposed cousin never showed up and Fani and Berta DAVIDOWITZ were released to the Clara de Hirsch Home (see the detained passenger list, attached).

I also checked the Bremen departure lists, but for 1913, they only seem to start in October, and there is a gap back to 1908.

I have found Fani's 1919 NY marriage to Jacob Zeisler, a widower. I would like to find out who this "destination" cousin was and, where was Fani between 1913 and 1919, and how were Fani and Berta related.

Thank you. Stay safe, stay healthy,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@...
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Re: Jewish Argentinians #latinamerica

mpipik
 

There were plenty of Jewish prostitutes all around.

Sholem Ashe's play "Got fun nekome" (The Gold of Vengeance) from 1906 is about a brothel in Poland.

New York City's Lower East Side was full of prostitutes.  In fact, my father told a the story of his first school day. Apparently his parents didn't have time to take him and had left him home so a neighbor volunteered to take him.  He much later found out that she was a prostitute.

A quick search or two on the Internet will provide plenty of information.

jesshschein@... <jesshschein@...>

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Re: Warsaw birth record - why registered 3 months late? #warsaw

Ruth
 

My mother was the fourth daughter born to my grandparents. She was born at the end of January in London, England, and the doctor told my grandmother not to bother too much about this child as she was sickly and not expected to live. My grandmother prevailed and my mother survived. Her birth was registered in April -- although the registration gave her actual birth date. So there's another reason for a delayed registration.
--
Ruth Chernia,  Toronto, Canada

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Re: Seeking Joseph Weisman, a member of Proskurover in NYC #ukraine

David Cherson
 

A few people out there might remember me when I was more active in all things Proskurov.  That was my mother's hometown and she and her family (miraculously) survived the 1919 pogrom.   I had always heard that there was a Proskurov shul in NYC but that it doesn't exist anymore.  And that it was established in the late 19th turn of the 20th century. Two of my mother's uncles managed to get out before WWI and that way they were able secure affidavits for the rest of the family in the 1920's.

In regards to the name of the town, I have always insisted that we only use Proskurov because as most people know renaming it Khelmnitzky was salt on the wound of the Jewish people.  Bogdan Khelmnitzky was one of history's most destructive anti-semites.  In fact within recent years the existing Jewish community has asked the town government to change the name back to Proskurov but they refused.

David Cherson <dcherson@...>


What happened to Charles Smolenski #unitedkingdom #usa #germany

Sue Coleman
 

My greatgrandmother Sheina/Szeyna/Jane/Jenny Cohen nee Smolenski appears on the 1901 census with her two sisters Chayka/Annie Kalinsky nee Smolenski and Tilly/Matilda/Toby (Taube?) Bernstein nee Smolenski. I would dearly love to know where they came from. They lived in Liverpool and Manchester, England. It is believed they had brothers. The census states Sheina was 17 but her youngest daughter thought she was nearer to 14. On the 1901 census the three sisters state they came from Russia but Chayka's grandson told me it could be Memel which, at the time was East Prussia

Family lore tells of a brother "Charlie" who visited them from USA before WW1. On Ancestry, I found a Charles Smolenski who travelled from New York to Liverpool in 1912 aged 22 and originally from Germany which could seem to fit. However, I can't find his original arrival in USA nor his return after his visit

So what happened to him and where did he come from?
Any suggestions welcome. I have searched and searched for their place of birth but with no joy, hence trying a different angle and looking for "Charlie"

Many thanks in advance

Sue Coleman    <colemanfamilytree@...>

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