Khamisa, Labi. Mimon, Gridish, Arud/Barud Dabush, in Zliten, Khoms and Msellata Libya #general



All these families seem very interrelated. I've hit a brick wall in the early 1800s in Libya. I'm pretty sure they mostly came from Tunisia 1810-1830 which is why I've hit a brick wall. Is anyone else researching this area?

Seeking "SEIDENFRIED" from Krakow #poland #galicia

Bette Shifman

We haven't been able to find records in Poland for my great-great grandfather, Heinrich Seidenfried (married to Malka Teichman or Teichner) from Krakow, more specifically, Piaski Wielki and/or Podgorzh. The name appears to have died out completely: among descendants I've been able to trace, some became Seidens and some Frieds. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated!


Re: 1918 flu pandemic lists #general

Susan H. Sachs

Their death certificates might state the cause of death was influenza - or it might state pneumonia, with or w/o noting that influenza was the precipitating cause.  Then again, it might not - either because of a reluctance to acknowledge the flu, or because the doctors were overwhelmed.  


Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland virtual meeting on June 3, 2020 (Ohio, USA) #jgs-iajgs

Sylvia Fleck Abrams

Join the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland for a virtual program on
Wednesday, June 3, 2020
at 7:00 pm A Mid 2020 Review

Betty Franklin has been busy making enhancements to its website. The goal is to have as many items free and available online as possible. In addition there are learning centers, community groups, activities to involve the whole family and new ways to add sources to Family Tree or to merge individuals. We will discuss the changes and some of the upcoming changes to
Betty Franklin, a volunteer at the Westlake Ohio Family History Center, is a retired preschool special education teacher who loves helping others research their families. She has a bachelor of science in education degree from Northern Illinois University and a masters degree in curriculum and instruction from Cleveland State University.
She has volunteered in the Westlake Family History Center for twenty-five years and loves seeing pedigree charts and family group sheets grow. Her own research has taken her back to the early 1600's in Germany. She recently has broken down walls on her husband's Swedish and United States lines. The covid 19 isolation has afforded extra time for researching and updating family records. She loves turning the names and dates into remarkable people by using the records to read between the lines.
Betty has presented workshops for local conferences and genealogical organizations on beginning genealogy, FamilySearch, FamilySearch Wiki, FamilySearch Family Tree, state census records, German research, reading old handwriting such as early American and German script and working with the various premium sites available at Family History centers. 
This program is free and open to the public, but space is limited.
Preregistration is required and  must be requested by 6:00 pm on June 3rd.
To preregister, send an email message with your Name, Email address, current location, and Zip Code, by clicking here: rsvp@... 
After you register, you will receive an email reply acknowledging your message and details for joining the meeting, including a link and password.
If you have any problems registering for the program, please contact:  

We will be using  Zoom meeting, so you may watch, listen and participate from the comfort of your own home.

Submitted by Sylvia F. Abrmas
Immediate Past President
On behalf of the Program Committee

Finding Edith Lewan who because she was 1/2 jewish escaped being murdered in Riga #latvia #russia #holocaust


I thought that all my family living in RIga had been murdered during the holocaust. Yesterday I discovered that my great aunt had had a child from a first marriage with a non jewish latvian man. While my great aunt Dora and uncle Abram and their daughter Lea perished, Edith survived. On Yad Vashem she appears as Edith Lewan jewish resident born on the April 27, 1920. The cousin whose autobiography we retrieved and who mentioned Edith said  that at the end of the war she was a secretary to a soviet general. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to find her. Best regards to all
My email catherine.jurovsky

Re: Did my husband's family from Galicia have Sephardic roots? #sephardic #galicia

Alexander Sharon


Surname Dym is listed, mostly in Galicia per JRI-P database, 697 times!
It is also listed in modern Poland 235 times, again, mostly within the ex eastern Galicia borders, for the ethnic (non-Jewish) Polish folks.
Dym translates from Polish as "smoke" and  according to Polish Slavic genealogical site, was used first as a family name in 1471.

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor

Nowy Dwow #russia

Jackie Wasserstein

Thanks to all who responded to my question about Nowy Dwow.  I now know that there are several towns with that name.  My friend has no idea which one her family came from.

Jackie Wasserstein

1918 flu pandemic lists #general


I and my brothers believe both of our grandfathers perished in 1918 flu epidemic in Chicago (one died in1918, the other died in 1920). Is there any source where I can find specific names of people who died from the flu. Obituaries are of no use since it's rare they would mention the cause of death (same as today).
I'd appreciate any help you can give.

Mike Samson.

Re: Jewish Argentinians #latinamerica

Erika Gottfried

It's hardly surprising that this would be a problem any immigrant community suffering from extreme poverty, deprivation, and discrimination.  What IS surprising is how many people in these communities were able to escape the snares of crime and poverty and survive to take care of themselves and their families. 

I recommend two additional sources on the subject of Jewish prostitution in the early 20th century:  The Maimie Papers --  a correspondence between a wealthy female philanthropist and Maimie Pinzer, a Jewish prostitute living in Philadelphia and recovering from a morphine addiction. ("The Maimie Papers is Maimie’s side of that correspondence, a ... unique account of the life of a woman of the streets and her inspiring transformation." ); also Hugh Nissenson's (1976) excellent, vividly imagined novel, My Own Ground (set in the Lower East Side). 
Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

Re: Fani Jurowics in NY with Berta Davidowitz : Ship Manifest #general

Diane Jacobs

Looks like 120 Varick or Third street.

Diane Jacobs 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Moishe Miller <moishe.miller@...>
Date: 5/25/20 1:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: [] Fani Jurowics in NY with Berta Davidowitz : Ship Manifest #general

Dear Group,
My cousin, Fani Jurovits (born 1887), arrived in NY on the Bremen, 24 Sep 1913. Fani was my great-grandfather's baby sister. It was nice to see Fani's father as the last address in Europe. Moses Jurovics, her father, was my g-g-gf, and my namesake.

On the second page of the manifest (attached), Line 26 has Fani listed, together with her cousin, Berta Davidowitz, as going to some address that starts with 120, perhaps Nevins. I am trying to make out the name of her cousin that was her destination, as well as the address. The name is overwrittne. Can anyone read the destination?
The supposed cousin never showed up and Fani and Berta DAVIDOWITZ were released to the Clara de Hirsch Home (see the detained passenger list, attached).

I also checked the Bremen departure lists, but for 1913, they only seem to start in October, and there is a gap back to 1908.

I have found Fani's 1919 NY marriage to Jacob Zeisler, a widower. I would like to find out who this "destination" cousin was and, where was Fani between 1913 and 1919, and how were Fani and Berta related.

Thank you. Stay safe, stay healthy,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: More about unwed mothers: #germany #general


My GGGM Maria Schnurmann (maiden name) lived 1800 to 1881, in Schmieheim, Baden, and is buried in the Schmieheim Jewish cemetery.  She is not listed in the town records as having a husband.  If she had been married to a man also named Schnurmann I would expect to find that in the town records, which seem accurate in all respects.  She had three children so it seems to me unlikely she was an unwed mother three times over.  Could she have married outside the Jewish faith?  If so, would that have not been recorded?  Is there any other reason she might not have a husband recorded in the town records?

Michael Braverman

Re: Nowy Dwow #russia

Alexander Sharon


You should concentrate on the "Jewish" Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki. For this JewishGen Gazetteer and JewishGen Family Finder are very helpful.

Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki, Novy Dvor, Nowy Dwór populated place 52°26' N 20°43' E G Poland 17.4 miles NW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°00' E


JGFF Town Search (88 Matches)

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

Re: Illegitimate births circa 1840 #germany

Ernst-Peter Winter

My g.g.grandfather ...
... was serving
as a Chazen and had to have the entire community sign an
official paper saying that they would continue to support
him. ( I have this document if anyone wants to see it.)
I would be glad to get a scan of the document.
Unfortunately, such documents are very rare in the municipal
archives, although they were certainly frequent.

BTW: Since the Rhine became the border between Hesse and
Rhineland-Palatinate, all suburbs on the right side of the
Rhine were separated from Mainz. The stations in these
villages kept their names, so that the railway station is
still Mainz-Bischofsheim.

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster, Hesse

Re: Illegitimate births circa 1840 #germany

Ernst-Peter Winter

I think it is very dangerous to judge rules and laws without
knowledge of the exact wording, time and territory, or to
draw general conclusions from them.

The beginning of the 19th century in particular brought very
great upheavals in Germany - from the end of serfdom to the
entitlement to certain rights. Not to forget the changes
brought about by the French Revolution and the rule of
Napoleon. It should be noted that the individual countries
of Germany were autonomous and had their own legislation. A
completely different question is how the local authorities
applied the laws and whether it was possible to appeal
against them to a higher instance and perhaps obtain justice
there. Generalizations often lead to prejudices that are
then difficult to dispel.

The situation of the Jews in Germany has certainly improved
more slowly during this period than that of the rest of the
ordinary population. And as always: some worked for it,
others against it. In my place of residence, a Jewish woman
left money to poor Christians in her will. She said that she
had also received much good things from Christians.
Certainly an exception - but also a reality.

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster, Hesse

searching for Brill and Zeid family from Ukraine #ukraine

Brill, J W.

I’m searching for information about Isaac Brill,from Bar, Ukraine, whose son Abram immigrated to USA in 1909.  Isaac’s wife was Fannie Dentmgmanz (sp)?

Also about Solomn Zeid, from Brailiv, Ukraine, whose wife was Belle Nerdoff and whose daughter, Sophie, immigrated to USA in 1909-1911.

Reb Aryah Lev Buchman & wife Sora Buchman of Starokonstantyn. #latinamerica #names #ukraine


Searching for any mention of my G Grandparents who might have lived in Kuzmyn, in 1800's. Aryeh (Louis) was a rabbi. Daughter was Bess (or Rebecca) who married Sam (Schlomo?) Shectman. 

Re: Did my husband's family from Galicia have Sephardic roots? #sephardic #galicia

David Ziants

I had a quick look through a DYM family on Geni and noticed that one of these is married to a member of the TOLEDANO family - a well known Moroccan Rabbinic family. So maybe your husband has also this family in his blood.
These are probably living people so the profiles are kept private there, but try and contact the profile mangers on the following profile:-
Also, I found the kohanic family on Geni, so you might want to ask if the profile manager on the above link knows if/how his family is connected to the big family.

I also found the following:-
Look at page 67:-
<<<Molecular genetics and epidemiology: DYM gene (chromosomal locus 18q12-q21.1) In a Moroccan Jewish family six out of 10 sibling were affected. No molecular studies have been reported.>>>
The name of the gene might be that because it was discovered by O. Dym - see page 82, thus no relevance to the family, but the people who asked your husband might have had this information and wanted to find out whether there was a connection.

David Ziants
Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel
Researching: ZIANTS, ZENETSKY (SCHLOSBERG), ZIANTSCHIK, FRIEDMAN,  ISMACH (DAVIDSON, OSMAN) from Narewka, Bialystok, Lomza, Lodz, Bielsk, Warsaw; GEWELBA (GABLE,RAVELLE,GALE), SINGER from Warsaw; REINA from Netherlands; MICHAELS from UK & Western Europe; VIEYRA, JUDA-RODRIGUEZ from UK, Netherlands (as well as all other Dutch Sephardi families).


Re: ID card microfilms reels for Lodz ghetto workers: searching link in Polish State Archives web site #lodz #holocaust

Howard Fink

Last year JRI-Poland made available a complete extraction of more than 262,000 registration cards from Łodz, circa 1916-1921. You can read details about this enormous project here:

Search for names:
[hint: specify the Geographical Region as 'Piotrków Gubernia' and the Record Type as 'Census / Books of Residents']

Your results will include a link to click which will take you directly to the high resolution (downloadable) scan of the original card at the Polish State Archives.

Re: : HIAS & Ethnic Bank records in Philadelphia, PA #belarus


I will be happy to pay a fee for a search for Auerbach records. My great-uncle Abraham Auerbach arrived in Philadelphia from Belaya Tserkov, then-Russia now-Ukraine, in 1906. Sam Auerbach, a relative of whom I know nothing, had probably lived in Philadelphia prior to 1906, he signed from Abraham on his citizenship application. Abraham lived in Philadelphia all his life, his son Solomon was a pharmacist.  

Re: Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #translation #russia #poland


In Russian:


Состоялось в городе Пжетборц двадцать первого декабря/второго января, тысяча восемьсот девяносто восьмого года, в три часа по полудни, явился еврей Мендель Розенфарб, торговец, тридцати двух лет от роду и в Пжетборце живущий, в присутсвии свидетелей евреев Абрама Зильберштейна, шестидесяти трех лет и Мендла Розенблата, пятидесяти шести лет от роду, торговцев и живущих в городе Пжетборц, предъявили нам мальчика и объявляя, что он родился четырнадцатого/двадцать шестого декабря, текущего года, в пять часов утра, от законной жены Эстер, урожденной Гутерман, тридцати двух лет от роду, и младенцу этому при обрезании совершенному сего дня, дано имя Фишель.  Акт сей присутствующим прочитан и затем нами и свидетелями подписан:   Являющимся безграмотным, Абрам Зильберштейн, Мендл Росенблат.

Бургомистр совершаущий акты гражданского состояния:   Подпись


In English:


Held in the city of Pzheborts on December 21 / January 2, one thousand eight hundred and ninety-eight, at three in the afternoon, a Jew, Mendel Rosenfarb, a merchant, thirty-two years old and living in Pzhetborets, was present, in the presence of Jewish witnesses Abram Zilberstein, sixty-three years old and Mendl Rosenblatt, fifty-six years old, merchants and living in the city of Pzheborts, presented us with a boy and announcing that he was born on the fourteenth / twenty-sixth of December of the current year, at five in the morning, from the lawful wife of Esther, nee Guterman, thirty-two years old, and this infant, when circumcised this day, is given the name Fishel. This act was read by those present and then signed by us and witnesses: Being illiterate, Abram Silberstein, Mendl Rosenblatt.

Civil Mayor: Signature


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