Re: pre-war telephone directories #poland #warsaw #belarus

Bernard Flam

Hi from Paris,
Two days ago, you had the perfect answer in post #643578 by Jenny Schwartzberg :
May 28   
"A lot of these phone books are searchable at:
A list of the directories included are at:
Jenny Schwartzberg
Chicago, IL, USA

Re: Transcript Please #germany

Reuven Stern

Thank you very much Ernst Peter Winter.
Reuven Stern, Kfar Vradim Israel
Researching families Behr, Stern, Markovits, Lebovits, Suessholz, Joseph

Does anyone know anything about the Jewish community in Pruzana? #belarus


Looking particularly for relatives of ROSENBAUM (ROZENBAUM) and KATZ in the town of Pruzana around 1900 and before.

M. Bekken
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ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland

Susana Nagel

I've posted a marriage record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
If possible, I would like a translation of the full document (instead of only the key data).
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much!
Susana Nagel

Re: Question re Polish parents' anglicised names on 1896 UK Naturalization Certificate #unitedkingdom #poland

Peter Lebensold

I have a somewhat similar situation where people who my mother had always told me were relatives had been using a newly-adopted surname (WERNER) since their arrival in the U.K. in 1907.  On their application (in 1913) for U.K. Naturalization, they not only used their new - WERNER - family name but also (I guess to keep things simple) retroactively renamed the parents of the groom (back in Poland) as WERNERs too!  Needless to say, this made finding any relevant earlier Polish records quite difficult ... until it dawned on me that, while they might have changed the parents' surname, they were unlikely to have gone to the trouble of changing their given names or their home town.  A search of JRI-Poland with both the WERNERs' given names quickly found their wedding registration - as SZAFIRs, my mother's maiden surname.  I suspect that no one, at the time, ever bothered to check (even if they could be found) any of the Polish records.  There is no indication that the SZAFIR parents ever used the name WERNER.

pre-war telephone directories #poland #warsaw #belarus

Michael Rosenberg

Does anyone know where I can access pre-war telephone directories for Warsaw and Brest Litovsk? 
Michael  Rosenberg
searching for Rosenberg, Golomb, Chani

Re: When were Jews in Galicia (Poland and now Ukraine) allowed to have passports? #galicia

Mark Jacobson

Jews in Galicia were emancipated and given rights of citizenship by the Austrians in the 1860s, the right to a passport would be included. Some people obtained passprts, but passports were not needed for travel to the United States until after World War I. By that time Galicia was part of the new nation of Poland and Jews who emigrated obtained Polish passports as Polish citizens.

Mark Jacobson
Past President, JGSPBCI
Gesher Galicia Board member
JRI-Poland Town Leader Boryslaw and Drohobycz
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Tripolye/Vasilkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk/Lepel, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia

On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:15:14 AM EDT, Richard Stower <rstower@...> wrote:

When were Jews in Galicia (Poland and now Ukraine) allowed to have passports? Where would applications be found?

Signing your full name to all your messages furthers the spirit of community and mutual assistance that our group depends on.
                            Full name and place of residence & email address is even better.

Richard Stower <rstower@...>

My maternal grandmother, Fanny RECHTSCHAFFNER #ukraine


I have been unable to determine when my maternal grandmother, Fanny RECHTSCHAFFNER, came to the US and the town of her birth.  I know her sister came with her parents in 1899 from Strzeliska, which at that time was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and is in present-day Ukraine.  I have been unable to find any record of her birth or her immigration to the US.  I have searched the Ellis Island records and JRI-Poland.  Any suggestions as to how I might search records from Ukraine?  Is anyone familiar with this town?

Judith Gertler
Wellesley, MA

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Re: Aide généalogie juive polonaise / Does a name suffice to prove Jewish ancestry?) #france #poland #names


Good morning.

My name is Rollie Stamps, email curtstamps@...

You and I are in the same situation. I am an American, raised as a Christian, but also felt an affinity towards the Jewish people. Neither side of my family knew anything about our ancestors past about 4 generations ago. I worked with several DNA companies with a varied degree of success as the first failed to report my last generation and the second did. My ancestors were Jews and I didn't know anything about them. I have since worked hard to make a family tree for both sides of my family and have been very successful with the information. Once I started getting names, I bounced them off of the database for to verify if their names were on record. I was very impressed with the findings. A word of caution, however, when using databases, I have noticed some minor errors, so always try to use more than one data base and show credit for the information you get. That will allow you to find the information in the future and also prove your relationship to them when needed. Also, get your DNA tested. That way your findings can't be argued. Autosomal DNA testing gives you the ethnic groups of both sides of your family, but only going back about 4 to 6 generations, so about 150 years give or take. Women can have their female lineage tested using mtDNA. This is only for women and tests the womens side only (Daughter-Mother, etc.). For men, the test is yDNA. It tests only the males side (Son-Father, etc.).
I was thinking about your statement "does a name prove jewish ancestry"? I believe it can, if you also use available scientific testing with your trees. In addition, verify the names are not sound a-likes. Not all people with the same last name are related. For that matter, not all names that people think are Jewish sounding are in fact from a Jewish family. The fact that you can connect yourself to another person through lineage with DNA and/or use of one or more databases or printed media is likely sufficient, depending on the sources you use. What you might be asking is whether or not this connection makes you a "Jew". If that is your question, than no it does not. I have spoken to a few rabbis and understand this better than I did when I started looking. I am not qualified to go deeper into that explanation other than this, if you are like me, a Christian, than we do not worship through Judaism and are not considered to be Jews. I believe the term for us is "seed of Israel", if you indeed are of Jewish lineage. Personally, I take pride in my Jewish heritage and support Israel. My parents raised me this way.
You asked about Catholic registers. I am not Catholic, but have been able to connect the dots on our history and a possible explanation why our ancestors stopped worshiping as Jews. Persecution by the Catholic church, called "pogroms". I have found several members of my tree were listed as Catholic clergy with an assortment of positions, but none the less counted as Jews. One was even Sainted in Belgium as a Beer maker. As Europe became less friendly to the Jewish population, it appears more immigrated here to the United States. I think it is amazing the lengths that people will go to in order to save their lives and that of their families. In the cases of my Catholic relations, I can only presume they were either hiding deep or their family had stopped worshiping through Judaism so long ago that they didn't realize their own heritage. I personally believe it was both. 
If you have not had your DNA tested, try for your autosomal test.I do not work for them, but they were the second DNA company that tested me. They have their own data and are based in Israel. In addition, they show their test results down to 1% of ethnic rendering unlike the others. If you still don't find anything but don't want to give up, don't. You might find it after all. I hope this helped and let me know if you need any clarification. 

Rollie Stamps

BAMBERGERs in mid-19th century Hartford #germany #usa

Neil Kominsky

I have significant indications of a relationship between two sets of BAMBERGERs living in Hartford, Connecticut around 1850. 
One family originates with David BAMBERGER, b. Bavaria 1780, d. New York City, 1866. The 1855 Hartford City Directory has him in the clothing business on Main Street.   His son is Leopold BAMBERGER, b. Rheinpfalz, Bavaria 6/27/1827, d. San Francisco 8/21/1902.  Leopold's wife was Theresa LITTAUER.  Their children, both born in Hartford, were Hulda BAMBERGER, b.10/12/1850, married Marcus J. Waldheimer of New York, d. Los Angeles, 7/18/1925, and Ira Leo BAMBERGER, b.1/21/1852, who went on to become a prominent attorney in New York, d.12/28/1919.
The other family is Hannah BAMBERGER FOX, b. in Bavaria 5/24/1814, d. Hartford 12/12/1875. Hannah was the wife of Gerson FOX (born FUCHS), (1811-1880). He was the proprietor of a fancy goods shop on Main Street, which his descendants grew into G. Fox & Co, Hartford's major department store.
Besides the connections of name and locale, I have found a New York business document from the 1870s which groups as corespondents in a lawsuit Ira Leo BAMBERGER, Jacob WALDHEIMER, who was Hulda's father-in-law, and Gerson Fox, who would have no reason to be involved in a NY business situation except for a possible connections with the BAMBERGERs, who, by then, had moved to New York.
I have been absolutely unable to document Hannah BAMBERER FOX's family of origin, which I think is the key to the situation.
Any help on this stone wall would be much appreciated.
Neil Kominsky
Brookline, MA

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Re: /Cantorovich/Kantorovich/Kantorowicz/Kantorovitch family from Derevnoe/Derewno/Derevnaia/ (Oshmiany district Vilno Gubernia, /#belarus

Carol Waggoner

My Great great grandmother may have also been a Kantorvich from Belarus. All I know so far is that she married in Belarus to Aron Zagorsky.


Carol Waggoner








Re: Anglicised surname #ukraine #unitedkingdom #names


It's up to the individual what name to use.  In the US, one can use any name one wishes, as long as no fraud is intended or perpetrated.  My paternal grandfather's last name was Slonimsky, so it was easy for his sons to shorten it to Sloan.  On the other hand, I know another Sloan family whose original last name was Solomon.  At other times, only spelling changes, perhaps with a slight change to pronunciation.  So, for example, my maternal grandparents' last name Zlates became Slatas.  If you can pin down a range of times when your wife's ancestor came to England and with whom he traveled, you may be able to find him on a passenger list. 
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: When were Jews in Galicia (Poland and now Ukraine) allowed to have passports? #galicia

Joan A. Baronberg

Richard, I have a 4 page PDF copy of my great grandfather’s Passport from Galicia in 1929. He lived in Suchostow and the passport seems to have been granted in “Brzezany.” I suppose this doesn’t tell you when the first passport for anyone was issued, but I can say that Pinkas Weisser used this passport for leaving Europe on the ship “France” and entering NY immigration. He then settled in Brooklyn, N.Y. until his death, living with his eldest daughter.

Joan Baronberg, Denver CO, USA
Suchostow, Strusov, Sloboda bei Strusov

Re: Earliest Use of Surnames in Romania? #names #romania

Shelley Mitchell

Does anyone know how names were chosen way back when? Originally I thought geography was used by some. Like Schwartzwald or Konigsberg. Clearly some chose a “son of” name. But the others?
Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.

Re: Question re Polish parents' anglicised names on 1896 UK Naturalization Certificate #unitedkingdom #poland

Sherri Bobish


I have numerous vital records from New York City where names of people who never left Poland or Russia were given Americanized names by the informant.

My favorite is when my gggm Gitel became Susie.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching:  RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON, Arliogala (Rogala), Lith.
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN, Ustrzyki Dolne (Istryker), Pol.
BOJDA  / BLEIWEISS, Tarnobrzeg, Pol.
BOBISH, Odessa
SOLON / SOLAN / SOKOLSKY, Grodek (Bialystok)

Re: Aide généalogie juive polonaise ( help jewish /polish family) #france #names #poland


La recherche généalogique est toujours importante n’importe quelle direction les indices vous indiquent. Un nom de famille ne suffit pas à  prouver une ascendance juive. Je ne suis pas familière avec les noms de famille que vous avez mentionnés mais les juifs ont pris beaucoup de noms. Il y a peu de noms qui sont uniquement juifs. Parmi les prénoms que vous avez listés, Magdalena n’est pas du tout juif. Les autres sont du Vieux Testament  néanmoins  les chrétiens et juifs, tous les deux, ont utilisé les noms de Joseph et Jacob. Avez vous considéré une analyse d’ADN pour apprendre votre ethnicité? L’ADN ashkénaze est différent que l’ADN de la population générale polonaise. Si vous avez un arrière grand-parent juif vous aurez 12,5% l’ADN ashkénaze (approximativement) par exemple. Après ça le pourcentage diminue (un arrière arrière grand-parent représenterait 6,25% de votre l’ADN et etcétéra). C’est possible qu’un test d’ADN ne vous donne pas une réponse certaine mais c’est quelque chose à réfléchir.  Je vous suggère de continuer votre recherche et je vous souhaite bonne chance!
Sharon Fleitman
Atlanta, Georgia

Re: Question re Polish parents' anglicised names on 1896 UK Naturalization Certificate #unitedkingdom #poland

Risa Heywood

Yes, Barry, you are exactly right. I see it all the time on American records. Immigrants would often Anglicize their parents names on records whether or not the parents immigrated. Having said that, make sure that the parents didn't come at a later date if you have confirmed that they didn't immigrate with the child or children.

I have been surprised several times at finding parents or just a widowed parent immigrating in their later years. I say that it is surprising because the family stories for those lines indicated that the children immigrated but the parents stayed behind. And that wasn't the case. The parent or parents came later to join their children. 
Risa Daitzman Heywood

Libraries with Ancestry Remote Access Through ProQuest Has Been Extended Through June 30 #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen

As reported previously, during the pandemic, ProQuest which supplies the library edition of Ancestry to many libraries advised that Ancestry is permitting remote access during the pandemic. Per Bill Forsyth, Senior Product Manager, ProQuest, the remote access for those libraries that have Ancestry subscriptions through ProQuest is extended through June 30, 2020.


Ancestry will continue to evaluate the need monthly and will adjust the access dates accordingly.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Transcript Please #germany

Ernst-Peter Winter

Am 29.05.20 um 12:41 schrieb Reuven Stern:
Dear fellow Gersigers,
Although I can speak, write and read in German, reading
cursive is a big problem that stops  the progress in my research
I have uploaded two documents to ViewMate.
I shall appreciate Transcripts to these documents.
I'll send the transcripts directly to your address.

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster, Hessen

Re: When were Jews in Galicia (Poland and now Ukraine) allowed to have passports? #galicia

L Goldstein

My grandfather applied for and received a passport in 1912 for purposes of going abroad to work.  I have the application but not the passport, and it does say "passport."  Since a passport is needed for foreign travel, I believe this was what we would consider a true passport.
Louise Goldstein  <mamabirdlouise@...>

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