Re: Father and son with same given name I have come across #general


Thank you for your reply. Number 2 is definitely a possibility for the instance from the early 19th century. For the one from the late 19th century, the Hebrew name on the headstone of the son is Meyer ben Meyer, so I’m assuming the father passed before the son was born.
Re: Father and son with same given name I have come across #general 
From: peter.cohen@...
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 14:24:11 EDT 

Two possibilities come to mind: 
1. The father died during the mother's pregnancy (I have also seen girl babies named after their mother who died in childbirth.)
2. Different middle names. You sometimes see revision lists with brothers with the same first name (such as Yosel Shlomo and Yosel Yitzchak). Not every document will list both first and middle name, which can lead to confusion.


Re: Father and son with same given name.i have xome across #belarus #poland #general


In some families, whether Ashkenazic or Sephardic, I know of father and son having the same name in today's world, with Jr. and Sr. being used.  Very Americanized!

Looking for MUTCHNIK /MUCZNIK family from Warsaw, Poland #warsaw #holocaust


I am asking for a friend who lives in Israel who is looking for information on a “lost” family member from Warsaw, Poland.  They are hoping to find a family member or her descendants, with the surname “Mutchnik” from Warsaw.  The searcher was born in 1939 and is a survivor – the family she is looking for would belong to her aunt who fled before WWII. We know there isn’t much hope of success, but it never hurts to ask. 

I have already searched on JGFF and used the JG resources. 

Thank you in advance.

JoAnne Vanett,
Ambler, PA

Old Jewish Vilna Cemetery #lithuania

Tony Hausner

In this video,  the Conference of Presidents of American Jewish Organizations indicates concern for the Old Jewish Cemtery in Vilna.  Who is familiar with the status of that cemetery.  
Dr. Schnayer Leiman appeals to Lithuanian government to save cemetery
Tony Hausner Silver Spring, MD 20901 301--587-6943 (primary email address: thausner@...)

Tony Hausner

Re: Bayview Nemo B.A. #general

Karen <kgschneider@...>

Hi Shlomo,

It appears the B.A. of Bayview Nemo stands for Benevolent Association. See JewishGen's burial society site:

You might also want to contact the cemetery for further information about the group:

Karen Schneider
Bolingbrook, Illinois

Descendants of Dutch Jews. Any interest? #general


I would like to suggest that we start a new group for descendants of Dutch Jews. Although the Nazis killed seventy-five percent of the Jewish population of the Netherlands, the country has made a concerted effort to recognize this and to make available lists of those murdered in the Holocaust.  Dutch Jews were among the earliest Jewish immigrants to the US.  I have Dutch Jewish ancestors who settled in Philadelphia and environs in the mid-19th century.
Thanks for your consideration.
Linda Hart Scatton

Re: Father and son with same given name I have come across #general

Peter Cohen

Two possibilities come to mind:
1. The father died during the mother's pregnancy (I have also seen girl babies named after their mother who died in childbirth.)
2. Different middle names. You sometimes see revision lists with brothers with the same first name (such as Yosel Shlomo and Yosel Yitzchak). Not every document will list both first and middle name, which can lead to confusion.

Re: Need Help locating s Ship's Manifest, Port of New York /FEUERLICHT family #usa #general #hungary

Bonnie Stone

If you're on Ancestry, have you tried checking border crossings? I found my family from England came through Canada to Vermont in 1900.

Romanian immigrants in Rockland County NY in 1900 #romania #usa #general


My great-grandfather, his wife and children emigrated from Iasi, Romania to New York in 1901.  The family first lived on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, but sometime after December 1902 moved to the rural town of Ramapo in Rockland County, New York. The family appears in the June 1905 New York State census of Ramapo along with many other Eastern European immigrants, many of them from eastern Europe. By December 1905, the family had returned to the Lower East Side. I am trying to understand what might have drawn my great-grandfather, a painter and paperhanger in Iasi, and other semi-skilled tradesmen, to a rural, farming town. Is anyone aware of any attempts by Jewish organizations to establish farming co-ops in Rockland County, New York, at that time? Any other thoughts?

Richard Gross
Guilford, Connecticut, USA

SCHLESINGER in Switzerland and Israel #israel #germany

Werner Hirsch

I am trying to find out whatever happened to a step cousin of mine, Marion (or Marionne) Schlesinger.  She was born in Freiburg, Germany in 1931.  In April of 1939 she was taken on a Kindertransport to Switzerland where she lived with a foster family in Dürrenäsch, Canton Aargau, Switzerland.  According to the Swiss records she moved to Israel in 1964.  Does anyone know how I might trace her in Israel?  I don't know where she lived, if she ever married, or if she is still living there.  I would greatly appreciate any ideas or any help.
New Haven CT USA
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Re: Require help in ordering Bobrka, Lwow birth certificate #poland

Mark Halpern

Dear Rose:

The 1919 Bobrka births are included in a register that still resides at the USC (civil records office) in Warsaw. Your sister-in-law can obtain an offical extract of the record by providing details of the birth to the USC. The email for the Warsaw USC is 

Best regards,
Mark Halpern


On 2020-05-31 7:40 pm, Rose wrote:

Dear Group


I'm currently assisting my sister-in-law in locating a birth certificate/extract for her paternal uncle Leib KLINGS. Leib was the youngest of three sons born to Mendel and Leiba KLINGS (SCHAFFEL) in Bobrka, Lwow, in 1919. His elder brothers Naftali and Ignacy, survived the war and subsequently emigrated to the USA and Australia. However, Leib and his parents all perished in the Shoah. My sister-in-law has one image of her uncle found in the Bobrka Yizkor book by the Magen David Adom Tracing Department in 2014.


I would really appreciate it if anyone could point me in the right direction re ordering this document.


Best wishes

Rose Raymen

Perth, Western Australia







Re: ISRAELOVICI, ISRAILOVICI from Braila or Galatz, Romania #romania

t s

In response to your question, I discovered that my great-great-great grandfather was Itzik Izraelovits/Israelovics. As of 1881, he was listed as being from Benedike, Hungary. However, perhaps there is some connection given the similarity of the last name.
Todd Samovitz

Re: TEDESCO surname in Italy #holocaust #usa #austria-czech

Joyce Field

To do research on Sephardic names in particular and Separdic genealogy in general, I can recommend two seminal books: Tagger and Kerem, Guidebook for Sephardic and Oriental Sources in Israel, and Malka, Sephardic Genealogy: Discovering your Sephardic Ancestors and their World.
Joyce Field
W. Lafayette, Indiana

Re: TEDESCO surname in Italy #holocaust #usa #austria-czech

Chana Bonn

Tedesco was also used, at least during the Renaissance, to designate, in Italian, that a composer was of German origin.  .

Re: Polish Surname Ending in "-ów" #names #poland #translation

Nicole Heymans

"ów" is a genitive plural ending, often tagged on to maiden names, when it means "of the house of". Often the final syllable is cut off before adding the declination, so it's not always obvious what the proper name is unless the father's surname is mentioned in some other document.

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium


Linda S. Mintz

My grandfather Morris Weinstein received his draft notice into the Russian army in November, 1905. He was told to report, or show reason not to. I have the original notice on light green flimsy paper. He brought it with him when he arrived in New York on January 6, 2006. I also have a store receipt, he saved, which shows he bought socks and shirts in Hamburg, before his departure. My grandfather was a draft dodger, thank goodness.


of registration with the Selective Service Section of 

the City of Riga

Registered in the City of Riga under the social status and tax bracket No 128.

Meier Zelik Leizerov Weinstein, born 5 August 1885, under article 112 of the War Regulations, issued 1897, for the fulfillment of Military Service, is registered at the City of Riga Selective Service Section.

Religious affiliation:  Mosaic Law

Occupation, Trade or Business:  Coachman training

Read? Yes Write? Yes  

Distinctive marks:   

  1. Height: 2 meters 3-6/8 vershok (1-3/4 inches)    4. Eyes: Light Blue
  2. Hair:  Blond 5. Beard:  Clean Shaven
  3. Eye brows: Light Blond 6. Special marks: None

The above named is subject to Military Service by conscription as of 1906 and in accordance with Regulation 4 for the composition of the list by family attached to the Instructions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs dated 8 February 1874 change Number 6, is obligated to immediately inform the Department of the Riga City Government of any changes in his familial circumstances, such as additions or loss of family members, following the registration at the Induction Center.

Independent of that, he is obligated to deliver to the Department in the second half of 1905, no later than 30 November 1905, concrete evidence of his family standing. 

Issued by the Department of Riga City Directorate of Military Induction.

23 September 1905, by Number 690/1912. 

Representative of the City Leadership> 

Manager . "

Linda S. Mintz


Searching for my father's family in #galicia #poland


Hello, my name is WIESENFELD, my grand-mother's parents were IZAAK HAMMEL and LAJE SPIRA originated from DUKLA. My father and his parents Moses WIESENFELD and CHANA SPIRA-HAMMEL left for Berlin after WWI. I would appreciate if any member of the JewishGen community could help me find any information related to my ancestors. Thank you. Henny Wiesenfeld

Re: TEDESCO surname in Italy #holocaust #usa #austria-czech

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>

Tedesco isn't a name for a Jew, it is a word for German.  Teutons, in Italian.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Anglesized Names #poland #general

Hank Lobbenberg

Alex, Nobody had their names changed at Ellis Island despite what some think. Either your ancestors changed it themselves or a census taker guessed incorrectly at the spelling of the surname. This happened to a couple of my family members.
Lobbenberg to Lobenberg.
Good luck,
Hank Lobbenberg

Re: TEDESCO surname in Italy #holocaust #usa #austria-czech

Enzo Falco

TEDESCO in Italian means German. My best guess is that immigrants to Italy from German speaking countries who did not have a last name, or did not want to continue with their original one, changed it. In my genealogy database, I have TEDESCO from the late 1700s, all probably born in northern Italy.

Enzo Falco
Belmont, Massachusetts
"I am trying to discover genealogical links in Italy and Sicily pertaining
to my family name Tedesco. Uncorroborated family lore pointed to
of Jewish heritage in Austria.
Frank Tedesco
Largo, Florida

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