Re: unusual name on tombstone #names


my theory is that it reads sane Hebrew yalin .but that is just a possibility
it could be that Sana was a nickname for yalin 

Eli Schwartz

Re: New Ukraine records #ukraine #russia


I can take part in indexing by the cities of Romny and the county, Sumy, Mogilev-Podolsky, Tulchin.

Lithuanian Revision Lists #lithuania

Jeremy Lichtman

Does anyone know what criteria would result in a person being removed from a revision list?

i.e. is it possible for somebody to be listed in a list dated 1907 who had left Lithuania circa 1890 (rest of the family were still resident)?

My understanding is that changing official residence from one town to another was a nuisance, but would that still apply with regards to immigration?


Jeremy Lichtman

Toronto, Canada

Re: Jewish name Dove #names

David Lewin

At 03:35 07/06/2020, kfhgw via wrote:
I'm sorry if this sounds silly but in researching a brother of the ancestor, his lists his father's name as Dove on the death certificate.  There is nothing on the tombstone.  I don't see the name anywhere else in the family and the family I believe is from Poland.  I've not seen Dove as a name before and was wondering if it is short, Yiddish, or nickname for something else.  He lists his mother as Annie which 2 out of the 4 sons have daughter's named Fannie.

Karen Gramigna-Warren

Dov - without the e on the end is a common personal name,   It means "Bear"   In Yiddish "Berl"
I guess the 3 on the end is an endearment of Dov

David Lewin

New Webinar From Jennifer Mendelsohn On How To Approach Genealogical Research #galicia #education

Steven Turner

We at Gesher Galicia are thrilled to present for our members an exciting presentation by Ms. Jennifer Mendelsohn, one of the true all-stars on the genealogy circuit today,

Jennifer is just an example of some of the talent we have within our membership. She is a proud Galitzianer with two grandparents from the province with connections to the city of Kraków and the towns of Bolechów and Śniatyn. We thank Jennifer for taking the time to record this for our members. We are indeed fortunate to have her both as a member and a presenter.

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Jewish name Dove #names

Karen Gramigna-Warren

I'm sorry if this sounds silly but in researching a brother of the ancestor, his lists his father's name as Dove on the death certificate.  There is nothing on the tombstone.  I don't see the name anywhere else in the family and the family I believe is from Poland.  I've not seen Dove as a name before and was wondering if it is short, Yiddish, or nickname for something else.  He lists his mother as Annie which 2 out of the 4 sons have daughter's named Fannie.

Karen Gramigna-Warren

Re: SAEVITZ/SAVEVITCH and variant spellings #ukraine


I don't think I can ad any insights, but my family name is Shayevitz. My paternal grandfather came to New York by way of Dvinsk, Latvia (Daugavspols).  His family actually appears in an 1893 Russian census. As your father-in-law, we hold the tradition that we are Leviim.  I have not participated in the particular project that you mention, but I would appreciate learning more about it.

Most of my grandfathers family moved on to Chicago where they still live. He had only one brother, David, who I believe he was childless.  His sisters married into the Chicago families Slavin and Kreitzman, and preferred the patronymic Aronova to Shayevitz for some reason.  His mother (my great-grandmother) was Riva Mindlin who emigrated to the US and lived in Chicago with her daughters.  She was also from Dvinsk. My great-grandfather died in Dvinsk, never making it to the US.

New York

Re: Meaning of Bazel and Chepah #names #romania

Danielle Weiner

I was going to reply just as Adam did but he did it much more eloquently.  Bazel could have actually been Razel (Reizel) which translates to Rose.

Re: "Oblast" #belarus


As a person who was born in the USSR, I can confirm that ''Oblast''  is an administrative region with a capital city. These ''Oblasts'' in the USSR and today's Russia have different sizes: in the European part they are much smaller and in the Asian part: Siberia, the Far East these ''Oblasts'' are huge in territories with a very low population density. 

I am attaching a map in Russian with borders of these regions called ''Oblasts'' where you will see them in different colours each having a capital city.


Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Kenneth Ryesky

Not unusual for emigres to have a paranoia, which they tried to cover up with false stories.  This could be as simple as misstating names or ages.
When I was downsizing my mom's house, I found some correspondence from 20-something years earlier regarding her aunt's placement in a Philadelphia nursing home.  The psychologist there wrote, amongst his notes, that my great-aunt was afraid that the Russians would come and kidnap her and take her back to Odessa.  That fully explained the discrepancies in her story (and those of her parents, my g-grandparents) regarding the family's true surname (and subsequent mutations) and birth .

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Help locating town from Poznan area census #translation #poland

Moses Jefferson

Hi folks.

I’m having trouble finding the towns mentioned in this card (attached), it is from a census written in German. My guess is that these are towns near the Polish/German border. I have circled out the towns in a red box.

I would also very much appreciate to learn where are these towns today.

Moses J.

Re: US Naturalization Papers from the Supreme Court #usa #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>

"U.S. law provides that naturalization can be done in any court or by the attorney general."
This, like most government things - and a lot else - only happened at certain times. We all know that the INS, and its successor now, have universal jurisdiction of naturalizations in the US.
I went to Niagara County Hall and asked for my cousin's naturalization papers, the last ones in the Index Book there, in 1906, and they brought them from somewhere and put them in my hand.
Things may vary in different states, in the specifics, but in the generalization, it isn't true. Lots of people say, get the Passenger List and look at the Certificate of Arrival, or look at the second page, but either of those is only good for certain, recent years.
Things change, and we have to ask the right questions, about certain times and places.  Generalizations generally aren't true.  Even if the person asked about a certain year, it is misleading to answer without specifying.
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Meaning of Bazel and Chepah #names #romania


Granted the document I have is not very clear.

Re: German Citizenship under Article 116 #germany


This online group is an excellent source of German Citizenship restoration information and support:
Good luck,
Jim Gelbort

Re: Quebec Genealogical Society = need help of a member (obituary database) #canada

jack nathanson

Please email me at nathanson1947@..., and I will email you what I can find.

Jack Nathanson.

Re: Quebec Genealogical Society = need help of a member (obituary database) #canada

Marion Werle

You can join Genealogy Quebec, which has the same database, on a limited basis, for 24 hours or one month to view and copy database entries. It is very reasonable, and you should be able to get what you need. I did a one month membership ($13 Canadian, which is a better buy than 24 hours), and I was able to view everything I needed, including "Décès du Québec." #canada

Good luck!

Marion Werle <canadagenes@...>
Los Angeles, CA

Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Judite Orensztajn

My mother z”l used to tell that her grandfather was very rich, was a farm owner – but actually he was the administrator of the farm. Most of Jews were very poor, so maybe his financial situation was better.
His name was Mordechai Heizeriger, from Novaselitsa. He was known as Der Toiger (the one who can). Four of his children (including my grandmother, my mother’s mother) emigrated to Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, and now his descendants form a huge family, most of them in Rio de Janeiro, with branches in Israel, USA, Australia… So, he was truly rich!

Judite Orensztajn, Jerusalem, Israel



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Subject: Re: [] Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #general


Some tales are right and others fanciful. My 3nd g uncle, the first to come to the US, supposedly because he killed a Cossack who was raping his sister. I rather think this might be right, because they still had them on the books in Augustow 30 years after he left, so I think they were still looking for him (they should have looked in Pittsburgh). They weren't looking for any of the other brothers and sisters.


But most of the tales of 'working for the Czar' and such are exaggerated terribly; very, very few Jews did things in the government..


Sally Bruckheimer

Princeton, NJ


Where are the Smolensk vital records located? #belarus


Hi everyone, 

I am researching my Jewish family from Smolensk. Where are the vital records located for Smolensk Jews?

Thank you


Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness #general

JoAnne Goldberg

I wouldn't expect any of the companies to double-check sources, but they might flag improbable situations, like a boy becoming a father at age 8 or a woman having a baby at 60, or giving birth to three children, all with different fathers, in the same year.

I've encountered situations where a family shows up as having multiple kids, for example, Israel, Izzy, and Isadore, with the same birth date, same spouse, same date of death. That is most likely one child, not three, and should be flagged.

JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535


Re: Military Uniform, Russian or Polish? #photographs

Kris Murawski

The Polish Legions were established by Joseph Pilsudski in 1914. Their uniforms were not standardized, but they usually wore either round grey visored caps called „maciejówka” (Maciej-cap) or four-cornered Pokish hats. Wearing an Austrian uniform by a Legions medical officer was a possibility.
Kris Murawski
Raleigh, NC

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