Re: Jewish name Dove #names


My great great great grandmother, Kitty Millingen (nee Solomons) died in London in 1835. Her Hebrew name is Gila bat reb Dov according to Hambro Synagogue burial register.

I have been told that Kitty is the daughter of Mr David Solomons so the English name for Dov is David.

Brian Johnston

Kitty Millingen (nee Solomons) buried 11 Sep 1835 Hambro Synagogue

Gila bat reb Dov, wife of Yosef ben reb Zanvel Millingheim. 

Re: An Old Song - Possibly Russian, possibly Yiddish #general

David Cantor

I have listened to the tune of the suggested song on YouTube.  May well be the one however, I am not sure and I am definitely not going to divulge the length of time since I last heard my grandfather sing!

Other memories include 'We're going to a wedding'. - the words may be found here.

Another song that I cannot trace is 'Why don't they give a Yiddisher boy a chance?'  It was about the royalty marrying amongst themselves.

I'm trying to record these flashbacks as part of a project to keep the family history alive.

Thanks to all who responded

looking for BABUSHKIN KARTEL KARTSEL relatives #belarus


Hi guys, want to learn more about my relatives from Belarus - Babushkin is my grandma family name. We leave in Zhlobin and Area close to Rogachev in Gomer oblast (before war is Mogilev gubernia)

Please ping me if you know more

Bukowski/Shapiro family #translation


Shalom everyone 🙋
I found Tauba Bukowska and Israel Shapiro's wedding record
Please,translate it for me.

Thank you very very much .
Jenny Kanadov Bukowsky
jenya. kanadov@...


Re: Lithuanian Revision Lists #lithuania


First, lets clear us some terminology.  By 1907, these lists are referred to as family lists, not revision lists. I too have the issue of people remaining on a family list after they had actually left Lithuania.  I was told by Rhoda Miller, an expert on this subject,  that this is not uncommon.  Unlike a US census, people were just carried over from one list to the next.

Bukowski/Shapiro family #subcarpathia #ukraine


Shalom,   found Sussel's  birth record,

Anybody knows,where is this archive ?

I understand,this is  sub carpatia 
but where can i see the records?
I am trying to check it with Lvov's archive,but it takes too long time.

Any information is appreciated.

Thank you very very much .
Jenny Kanadov Bukowsky
jenya. kanadov@...


Bukowski/Shapiro family #ukraine


Hello everyone, This is from the birth record of Sussel,Sara's daughter from Skole.The question
where is this record from? I know that this area in Ukraine, maybe anybody knows,which archive is it from? Thank you so much. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Jenny Kanadov Bukowsky

Re: Friedmann restaurant in Baden Bei Wien 1900-1915? #austria-czech #hungary

Johann Hammer

The 1910 census is unfortunately not edited, which means that there is no possibility to search for names, for example. You would have to know the exact address to find the inhabitants of a house.
I searched some sources for Izsak Friedmann in Baden near Vienna, but I could not find any indication of a restaurant.
Johann Hammer (Vienna)

Re: Trouble identifying city / town on ship manifest #austria-czech

Johann Hammer

Do you know their native tongue or the region from where they originally came from?

Nazi Concentration Camps Prisoners Made Music: 60 Minutes Episode June 7, 2020 #holocaust

Jan Meisels Allen




One of the episodes on the June 7th (US) 60 Minutes program (CBS) was about prisoners in Nazi Concentration Camps making music: The Lost Music.  An Italian composer and pianist researched the music they wrote. The Italian composer, Francesco Lotoro, was not born Jewish but converted to Judaism. He has spent 30 years recovering, performing and in some cases finishing pieces of work composed in captivity.

To watch the 24-minute episode go to:


I don’t know if the link will work outside of North America.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


1-page Translation of Testimony by Dr. Robert Meidler from German to English #holocaust #translation

Eva Robotnick

Subject: ViewMate translation request -  German to English

I am new to this group and hope you can help me regarding my cousin from Czernowitz, Poland.
I request a translation of Dr. Robert Meidler, my relative's 1-page testimony (in German) of his life during WWII.

It is on ViewMate at the following address 

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much,

Mrs. Eva Robotnick

Re: polite, correct word for genealogy purposes? #general

Kenneth Ryesky

Folks, if you choose to be judgmental of all your relatives, then your family tree listing and your enemies list will eventually become one and the same document.
One of the strongest (and underutilized) arguments in favor of family history research is that empirical evidence strongly suggests that all else being equal, children who know their family history are better postured for success in life than those who are unfamiliar with their family background.
If my own family is typical (not that there is any such thing as a "typical family"), I have Communist Party apparatchiks and nomenklaturaniks, as well as a founder of the Republican Jewish Coalition and other people who are or were solidly on the righthand side of the political spectrum.
There WILL be differing political, social, and religious differences.  If you are as highly outspoken and opinionated as I am, then being nonjudgmental will be a challenge.  Much of my research successes have come through collaboration and note-comparing with people who would be (and have been) my adversaries in other contexts. 
When doing personal genealogy, I think of my biases as just another brick wall that needs to be broken through in the research process. 
-- KHR

Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL


Ukraine:  Yelizavetgrad:  Broad/Brodsky (also Odessa), Gertzig/Gertzog
Ukraine/Russia/Turkey:  Yevpatoriya:  Israelson, Arshenov

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Re: Sharing family tree information #general

Hilary Henkin

Maybe --.  My great-grandmother was Hilda (Hinde) Berlin, daughter of Leib Berlin.  She was born about April 1869, and had six siblings, born about 1868-1896.  There was Hirsche, Hilda, Matta, Yahuda, Ruven, Solomon and Welka.  I know about her and Welka (William), but nothing about the rest.

Two of her sons ended up in Toronto, and brought her in 1908.  Willie came over in 1913.  They all moved to Detroit in the late teens, then moved back to Toronto after WWI, then to Los Angeles about 1923. 

Were there cousins in Detroit?  I'd love to find out.

I have more details, didn't want to write a missive at the moment.  If you need more, let me know, or if anything sounds familiar.


On 6/7/2020 7:29 PM, David Syner wrote:
hi Hilary,
i saw you are also Researching Berlin in Mogilev. i'm researching Berlin's ( BELENKY / BIELINKA /BERLINSKY) that arrived and lived in Detroit from Mogilev. Yours? 


Re: Passenger Manifest Question #general

Sherri Bobish

Hi Jeffrey,

In my research I have found several people on manifests with lines drawn through their name and info.  It means they did not sail on that ship.  In each case that I have seen, the person sailed a few days to weeks later.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Re: COHEN family from Toronto descendants of family #canada

Peninah Zilberman

Look up the Tel. Inquires 411, fb...its a good starting point, there is on fb, Israelis in Toronto
Good luck

Fundatia Tarbut Sighet
+40 74 414 5351

Re: Passenger Manifest Question #general

Richard Werbin

It means they did not board the ship.

Re: Passenger Manifest Question #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>

It means he did not sail.  

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ 

On Jun 7, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Jx. Gx. <mrme1914@...> wrote:

What does it mean when a passenger's name is lined through on a ship's manifest?  I was thinking maybe he upgraded his ticket from steerage to first or second class or that maybe he missed the boat entirely.  His name did not appear in the upgraded registry of the ship. I also checked the manifest for passengers detained or held for special inquiries - nothing.  To add to the mystery, on his Declaration of Intention four years later in  April 1911, he indicated that he came over on the SS President Lincoln on June 4, 1909.  The ship definitely arrived in New York on that date, but he wasn't on the manifest. Thank you for your comments.

Jeffrey Gee

Re: polite, correct word for genealogy purposes? #general

David Hamermesh

I would propose that the polite and correct thing to do is to use whatever term the couple in question prefers. Ask them (assuming this is possible, of course).

David Hamermesh
Jackson Heights, New York

Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness #general

Carolyn Lea


I do not expect these companies to examine trees and look for improbable situations. That is my job, not theirs. I am the researcher and they are the records providers. As far as online trees go, I would not take anything from an online tree before proving or disproving the information. Can you even imagine the number of employees it would take and how many hours to look for what might be improbable  information? The person who owns the tree is obviously not a serious researcher or is poorly educated in doing this type of research. This gives them 3 additional ancestors instead of one!

Re: Sharing family tree information #general

David Syner

hi Hilary,
i saw you are also Researching Berlin in Mogilev. i'm researching Berlin's ( BELENKY / BIELINKA /BERLINSKY) that arrived and lived in Detroit from Mogilev. Yours? 

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