Re: Mexican Vital Records relative from Poland #latinamerica


Hi Carol:
I am sure you will find this document of a great value.
Alejandro T Rubinstein

Informations about Jews from Jadow / Yadov / Yaduv [Poland] #poland


I'm looking for informations about Jews from little town Jadow [also known as Yadov or Yaduv]. I'm opening non-profit museum in Jadow this year and I would like to comemorate here as many Jews and their stories as it will be possible. I will be glad if you can help me in any way to find Jews from Jadow, their relatives and any stories & materials (documents, photograps) connected with them.

Marek Suchocki

Re: Where are the Smolensk vital records located? #belarus

Max Preston

They're in Smolensk in the State Archive:



Re: Marriage Record for LEWIN and SZTABINSKA #belarus #general


I had a great aunt who came over to the US named Fannie Stabinsky(modt likely an Americanized change from Sztabinska). She married Ben Freeberger (Frie or Freiberger) from Russia (at the timer) now Poland. I'm not fure if this helps, but I hope so.
Fran Frieberger Jackson
St Louis MO

A short article I wrote on Plymouth's Jews #unitedkingdom



Hi guys, 

Hope you're all keeping well. 

I've written a short piece on my ancestors from Plymouth. It may be of interest for anyone with heritage in the South-West of England. 

Here is a link: 

Best wishes, 


Re: German Citizenship under Article 116 #germany

Ben Kempner

The German Consulate in Los Angeles told me to expect a 2 year wait after submission of all the required documentation. It's now been 25 months and I'm still waiting, but I suspect Covid slowed everything down.

Moses & Rebecca Nathan approx. 1792 #unitedkingdom

Ronald Alex Nathan

Earliest Direct Ancestor is Moses Nathan (1792-Jan. 1854).
Born in Whitechapel, London, England
Married to Rebecca (last name?), (Calculated 1792-1860)
They had Lewis Nathan (only 1 child?), who married Hannah (Cohen?) on Aug.
15, 1838 at 3 Cobb's Yard, London, England
1841 Census has Rebecca and Moses living with their son and daughter-in-law
at Cobb's Yard, Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, London, England
How do I find out more about Moses and Rebecca?
Respectfully, Ron A. Nathan

Re: ViewMate translation request – One Name in Old German Script #germany #general

Ralph Baer

I may add, that Moses Salomon's wife's first name was most likely not "Betty"(compare the first capital letter with the last name Benjamin), the end to me looks more likesomething like ".ettig", sorry not to be of more help.
It's "Bettÿ", Using different forms of the same letter in a record is sometimes used for emphasis. The entire name "Benjamin" is in a modern form in order to emphasize it. We would now use italics for that purpose.
Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC

tracing American relatives #usa


Was there ever an organization that helped survivors establish contacts with American relatives after the war by publishing ads in newspapers across the USA? And, if so, would any of those records be available for research?
Thanking you in advance…
Ruth Fenichel Kornbluth

Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness #general

Ralph Baer

I have enjoyed this thread and connected posts about the accuracy of trees and information submitted to sites like Geni and Ancestry because the posts have mirrored my feelings. There is a high percentage of junk. In theory the junk should get weeded out by repeated edits like wrong information in Wikipedia -- but it doesn't work like that. On several occasions, I have become irritated after an exchange of emails with a poster who has grafted obviously wrong information, for example, parents already dead years before the birth have been added. Reading that others have similar thoughts has calmed me a bit. Ancestry has caveats to check the information, for example the suggestions that they have added to my tree.

I have attached a list in PDF form of my ancestral family names and towns including cases where brothers took different names. It's too long to add at the bottom of this message. Unless otherwise indicated, all locations are in present-day Germany.
Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC

Re: Surnames #names #germany

Ernst-Peter Winter

Hi Lin

you mentioned
*WOLF-*Munster, Darmstadt-Dieburg, Hessen, Germany
I'm living at Münster and was confronted for the first time
about 3 years ago with the genealogy of Jewish fellow
citizens. Although I have been researching for over 45
years, this was a completely new challenge, as completely
different sources had to be found and consulted.

I'm interested in all facts about jewish families in Münster.

At present I have information about Zilly Wolf, wife of
Abraham Falk, marriage on 06 JUL 1862 in Münster, daughter
of Meyer Wolf. Zilly Wolf is said to come from Lützelsachsen.

Regina (Reingen) Wolf, daughter of Samuel Wolf and Veilchen
(Vögelchen) NN was born on 10 OCT 1810 in Langen (Hessen)
and died on 02 SEP 1851 in Frankfurt. She married ABraham
Strauß on 25 MAY 1845 in Sprendlingen (Dreieich). In Münster
they have a daughter Rosina, born on 08 FEB 1846.

I am very pleased about an exchange.

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster (Hessen)

Brick Wall for Grandfather #warsaw #poland


I've had a BRICK WALL for over 10 years of active research. My grandfather, Isidor (Icek?) Bergman was born in Warsaw (maybe not?) in 1880 or 1882. According to his Ketuba and his SS documents, his father was Simon. His mother was Feige born Elbaum in 1837 in Lublin. (The family later changed the surname to Kierer.) She married a Dawid Boguslawski who died while she was pregnant with Samuel David Boguslawski, born 1863. I don't know when she married Bergman or anything about Simon Bergman. She emigrated to the U.S. in 1890 under the name of Czippe (Czippe is Hebrew for Feige) Bergmann, but alas her 8 year old son was not on the ship manifest. I have very many documents about her family from Lublin -- parents, grandparents, and siblings, but NOTHING about the Bergmans. I have used every available resource. Any clues? Attached are photos of Feige and Isidor and his half brother -- (Isidor on the left) -- taken around 1895.
Abby Barry Bergman
New York

Re: ViewMate translation request – One Name in Old German Script #germany #general


Hi Jeff,
your great-grangmother's first name was Rebecka and
her maiden name indeed was Samuel. It doesn't say where
she was from, but her last place of residence was the city of Kiel
on the Baltic Sea, approx. 120 K north from Altona (which is next to Hamburg)

I may add, that Moses Salomon's wife's first name was most likely not "Betty"
(compare the first capital letter with the last name Benjamin), the end to me looks more like
something like ".ettig", sorry not to be of more help.

Best regards
Josh Waiblinger

Re: polite, correct word for genealogy purposes? #general


As a spouse in a same-sex marriage, I suggest spouse as a valuable term for any people in a marriage, regardless of gender(s).  When we got married, the celebrant congratulated us as now being " husband and husband."  

The difficulty with "partner"  is that is is ambiguous on whether it is a familial term or a business term.  Even after being married for 12 years and in a domestic partnership for almost 20 years, people newly met and told that we are partners still assume my spouse and I are in business together.

Also, we are married AND domestic partners - two different statuses, entered into at different times, and still both applicable.  At one time, before national marriage equality, being domestic partners could provide rights in states that didn't yet affirm same-sex marriage.

Thanks for thinking about all this.

San Francisco, CA

Re: Mexican Vital Records relative from Poland #latinamerica

The Becker's Email

Ancestry World subscription has a number of documents in addition to the birth record:  death record for Max, several border crossings from Mexico into the US, US naturalization papers (original) for Juan.  Once public libraries reopen, many have library subscriptions to Ancestry and you should be able to access free.

birth of Juan (m) and Raquel (f) twins b. 10 Oct. 1923  in Mexico City.  Birth registered in 1926.  Father Max Greenberg and mother Maria Allerhard.  It's a very long entry in Spanish and my Spanish is rusty.
death of Max Greenberg:  age 70, died 1936. wife Maria Alerhard.  Parent Nojiun and Basia.

On two different El Paso border crossing in 1933 Max is listed as b.c. 1876 Vlodorka/Valenda, Poland.  Wife Maria.  

In all of these records there's more to translate.  There are also more El Paso border crossings.

There's a 1944 declaration of intent for John Allegant Greenberg (Juan Greenberg) in the Western District of Texas.  He was born 10 Oct. 1923 Mexico and emigrated in 1939.

Border crossing at El Paso 1934 for Raquel.  going to cousin Jake Ellegant in Chicago.  Looks like a temporary visa.

Johanna Becker
Newport, RI

Re: passenger manifest missing/not indexed? #general

Marion Werle

Immigration recollections are not always correct. For some reason (I haven't conducted a scientific survey, however!) people seem to remember the ship name more often than the precise date. If you search by month/year and ship name (don't use a name in your search), you will get a list of manifests from the approximate time period. You may need to search the manifests manually, and you may need to expand the time period. Also, Julius Silver may have arrived under the surname Zilber, and Julius may have been something else as well. You need to be very creative when searching for passenger lists. My comments reflect doing searches on Ancestry.

And for the record, I have never found my maternal grandmother's ship manifest after 25 years of searching. She was always boasting that she didn't have to travel in steerage, and Marian Smith (formerly of USCIS) said that non-steerage passengers didn't always appear on passenger manifests during some time periods.

Marion Werle
Los Angeles, CA

Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus


My grandfather told my mother (before she emigrated to Canada, 1956) that we had family in Boston and that one member was even a rabbi. Once we arrived in Canada, she tried to find him but had no luck. She died in 1988. Fast forward to 2014. I emailed a distant cousin whether he knew anything about the family in Boston. Sure enough, the cousin knew about them and even had their email addresses. We went to Boston, visited with the family (grandchildren of the rabbi) and I copied photos of him and his sons. Rabbi Rafael Landau (1877-1955) was my grandfather's first cousin. By the time my mother searched for him, he was long dead.
Ruth Chernia
Toronto, Canada
searching for
TSCHERNIA of Copenhagen, Denmark, & Genichesk, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
SHLAMOWITZ/SZLAMOWICZ/BIRENCWEIG of London, England; Lodz & Jezow, Poland
SEIDLER/ZAJDLER/LANDAU of Lodz & Sulejow, Poland
ROSENFELD of Raków, Kielce, Poland
SHKOLNIK/TICK[ER] of Ladyzhyn & Bershad, Vinnytsia, Ukraine

Surnames #names #germany

Lin Herz

HI Everyone,
I hope you all are safe and well.
I'd like to list my family surnames as I have not done this in a while to see if anyone is researching the same names. I'm not sure if the format I'm using is all right for our new message list format. I'm hoping someone will see a name that is among their family surnames.
I have the surname and then where in Germany they are from. 

Sincerely and best wishes,
Lin Herz

BUEHLER  - Noerdlingen/Kleinerdlingen/Donau-Ries, Bavaria, Germany; 

                         Schopfloch, Germany  

(our Buehlers may have originated and Schweizers and supposedly the schweizers (before permanent last names) came from a name named Salomon Weil- who may or may not have been from Switzerland)

SANDAL /LAUCHHEIMER (this is before permanent last names. The permanent last name was Lauchheimer- from Kleinerdlingen

ROSENBERGERr- Oberdorf-Bopfingen, Ostalbkreis, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

OETTINGER-Öttinger-  Mönchsroth, Ansbach, Bavaria, Germany;  Oberdorf-Bopfingen, Ostalbkreis, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

ADLER Markelsheim, Baden-Württemberg, Germany; aka Markelsheim, Main-Tauber-Kreis, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany

ADLER- Eberstädt, Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg,  Germany

ROTHSCHILD-Eberstädt, Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg,  Germany

                       Davenport, Iowa


SELIGMANN- Crailsheim, Schwabisch Hall, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

KAUFMANN  -y Eberstadt, Heilbronn, Baden-Wurttemberg
WOLF- Munster, Darmstadt-Dieburg, Hessen, Germany


LEVI-       Markt Berolzheim, Weissenburg-Gunzenhausen, Bayern, Bavaria, Germany;    

           Waldorf, Bornheim, Rhein-Sieg-Kreis, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany;

           Heimerzheim, Rhein-Sieg-Kreis, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

            Ollheim, Rhein-Sieg-Kreis, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (Swisttal near Bonn


SCHWEIZER- / SCHWEITZER-  Dernau, Ahrweiler, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany

HERZ         Markt Berolzheim aka Berolzheim, Weissenburg-Gunzenhausen, Bayern, Bavaria, Germany

AFFHAUSER  Ichenhausen, Günzburg, Bavaria  ,    Berolzheim, Weissenburg-Gunzenhausen, Bayern, Bavaria, Germany

SCHOENWALTER- Berolzheim, Weissenburg-Gunzenhausen, Bayern, Bavaria, Germany

HEYMAN-    Westum, Sinzig, Ahrweiler, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany; 

                   Remagen, Germany

SCHWEIZER (Kleinerdlingen, Donau-Ries, Bayern, Germany) SCHWEIZER (Schopfloch, Ansbach, Bayern, Germany) Schweizer


OTTENTENHEIMER / FREUDENTHALER -Heinsheim, Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

JESSELSOHN/ JESELSOHN/ - Neckarbishofsheim

HERZ - Nümbrecht, Oberbergischer Kreis, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany;   earlier in time from:

            Schwarzenau, Kitzingen, Bayern, Germany

note: before the Herzes had a permanent last name, my ggg grandfather’s name was Herz Baer. (Baer is a patronymic) He was born in Schwarzenau (not Bad 

Berleberg) His father’s name was Baer Cohn, but again, Cohn was not a last name.


SALOMON- Schwarzenau, Bad Berleburg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, NRW

REINHEIMER - Beerfelden, Odenwaldkreis, Hessen, Germany
                           Georgenhausen, Reinheim, Darmstadt-Dieburg, Hesse

SIMON- Beerfelden, HESSE

HUMBERGKlein Reken, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany

 (HAMBERG-   (I just found a "new" branch of HUMBERGS who changed their surname to HAMBERG upon coming to America)  Philadelphia, PA

     related to me and it turns out the name was previously Humberg in Germany)

Leyser- Schwarzenau, Schwarzenau, Bad Berleburg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, NRW

Anschel- Rheine, Steinfurt, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany

Samson- died in Klein Reken

Isaak ? may have lived in Klein Reken

Schwarz- Raesfeld, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
                 Arnhem, Netherlands
Gans-   Winterswijk, Netherlands

Blom - Winterswijk, Netherlands,   Baltimore, Maryland

Elkan/Elcan/Alcan/Alkan/ Elkaan- Raesfeld, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany

Abraham Moises (1766-1861)  (did not have a last name, but his son took the last name Schwarz)- Schwabach, Bayern, Germany

Jost - Raesfeld, Borken, Nordrhein-Westfalen

Jost Israel- no last name- Raesfeld

Michels- Raesfeld


Simon- Georgenhausen, Reinheim, Darmstadt-Dieberg, Hesse, Germany


Herz -Wiesbaden, Hessen, Deutschland



Partial Manifest Located, How to locate remaining section #unitedkingdom #general


Hello. I have located what I believe to be a partial manifest for the SS Paris, sailing from NY to Plymouth, arriving August 8th, 1929.  I located the manifest on Ancestry, UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960, Plymouth, England, 1929 August. 

My grandparents, Charles and Dorothy Weingarten,  took this ship and I can not find their names. Any suggestions? I think I page might be missing. 

Thank you in advance for any advice

Deborah Moscou Annex

Re: Friedmann restaurant in Baden Bei Wien 1900-1915? #austria-czech #hungary

Sherri Bobish

Emma may want to try searching for her family and their restaurant in old city directories.  This site is free, and has a large database of Eastern European directories from the past.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

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