Re: Trouble identifying city / town on ship manifest #austria-czech

David Shapiro

Before WWI many people from Galicia said they were from Austria. Consider the town of Rybotycze which is now in Poland.

David Shapiro

Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness #general

Martyn Woolf

None of the Genealogy sites check facts and even if one sends them corrections with all relevant sources, nothing is ever changed. Much of the rubbish emanating from these sites is due to transcribing errors.
One little tip that I use that others may find useful. In my tree/trees I use Upper Case  for every surname that I have sourced and am confident about.  Every other name remains suspect and in lower case, until I am happy and can show sources.
Happy hunting

Martyn Woolf

Re: Moses & Rebecca Nathan approx. 1792 #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf

Further to my earlier message. I have found Moshe ben Natan married to Rivka bat Yehuda Leib at the New Synagogue (then in Leadenhall Street) on 3 March 1816. No family names for either bride or groom were recorded.

Best regards

Martyn Woolf

Re: Moses & Rebecca Nathan approx. 1792 #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf

Lewis Nathan married Hannah Cohen (daughter of Moses Cohen) at the New Synagogue on 15 Aug 1838. They lived at 3 Cobbs Yard. Both gave the same address but this was very usual as it saved a little on the registration fee for the marriage. It did not necessarily mean they were living together before the marriage but it didn't mean they weren't! The New synagogue moved in 1838 to Great St. Helen's Street.  
I cannot  trace a marriage of Moses and Rebecca but I will keep it on my list of things to look at and let you know if I find out any more.


Martyn Woolf

Re: polite, correct word for genealogy purposes? #general

Trudy Barch

Thank you everyone for your responses.   The majority of the responses said Partners.    Some said Domestic Partners not to be confused with a business partner.   Thanks again for your opinions.   Trudy Barch,   FL
Stay safe and healthy everyone.

Re: Seeking genealogical resources for Milicz (Militsch) SW Poland #poland

Rodney Eisfelder

The CAHJP (Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People) in Jerusalem has 37 files from the archives of the Jewish community of Militsch (Milicz). However, as far as I can tell from the inventory, BM&D records are not included. I think there are membership lists included in some of the files.
and search for Militsch

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia

Re: Project Gutenberg Blocked By ISPs in Italy #announcements #general

xan madera

hi ,this page ist blocked from germany:
jan braunholz - frankurt/m

Re: US Naturalization Papers from the Supreme Court #usa #general


Thanks for all this information. Pardon me for asking but how did you find it?

I went to the National Archives website and while I found the search feature, l cannot get the precise files that were found.

I'd just like to know for future searches.

Thanks again.
Daniela Sciaky

Re: Seeking copy of "Annals of the Family Shure" compiled or published by David MANDELBAUM, Bnei Brak, c.1997-8 #ukraine #general


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Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness #general

I agree with most of the replies to this string that very often the data collected by commercial genealogical companies is useless. Therefore, I have not bothered to be a member of any of these companies. My experience regarding my own collection of genealogical data (based mostly on official documents) is rather irritating. My data has been leaked to two such companies without my permission, and one of them is keeping sending me (via a family member) "new matchings" or "supplements" which most of the time can be characterized as rubbish. I would advise anybody interested in collecting reliable genealogical data to treat with the utmost suspicion anything these commercial companies are responsible for.


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Project Gutenberg Blocked By ISPs in Italy #announcements #general

Jan Meisels Allen





Project Gutenberg is the world’s oldest digital library. It has been blocked by ISPs in Italy under the orders of the Court of Rome. The platform, which focuses on public domain books, appears to have been erroneously labeled a pirate site in an action targeting 28 domains and several Telegram channels.  The site has been rendered inaccessible by ISPs in Italy under the instructions of the Public Prosecutor at the Court of Rome.


The seizure/blocking notice states that all of the targeted domains “distributed, transmitted and disseminated in pdf format, magazines, newspapers and books (property protected by copyright) after having illegally acquired numerous computer files with their content, communicating them to the public, [and] entering them into a system of communication networks.”


The order from the Court of Rome was also sent to Google, a copy of which was acquired by TorrentFreak from the Lumen Database. The sender was Reccia Giovanni who is listed as a commander with the  Guardia di Finanza,(GdF) the Italian police unit tasked with financial crimes. is 15th on the list of allegedly infringing sites.  According to its transparency report, Google has received requests to have 1,110 URLs from deleted from its search results. The company took “no action” for 85.9% and marked the remaining 14.1% as duplicate requests, for which it also did nothing.


Project Gutenberg was founded in 1971 includes 62,000 books  with a focus on titles that entered the public domain after their copyrights expired.  Everything from Project Gutenberg is completely without cost to readers  in the United States because most are not protected by U.S. copyright law, usually because their copyrights have expired. They may not be free of copyright in other countries. It is best for readers to check copyright terms of their countries before downloading or redistributing their eBooks. They also have a number of copyrighted titles, for which the copyright holder has given permission for unlimited non-commercial worldwide use.  Project Gutenberg eBooks require no special apps to read, just the regular Web browsers or eBook readers that are included with computers and mobile devices


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Re: tracing American relatives #usa

David Lewin

At 20:53 08/06/2020, Ruth Kornbluth wrote:
Was there ever an organization that helped survivors establish contacts with American relatives after the war by publishing ads in newspapers across the USA? And, if so, would any of those records be available for research?
Thanking you in advance…
Ruth Fenichel Kornbluth

There was the magazine "AUFBAU" published in the USA and UK  - now archived at the Leo Baeck Institute

There was also the "Union - Blaetter der Emigration"  in South Africa which is archived in Micro-film format in many libraries (mostly in Germany, I do not know about elsewhere) and which I have digitized.  That is still in my computer and searching for a public home.

David Lewin

Search & Unite attempt to help locate people who, despite the passage of so many years since World War II, may still exist "out there".
We also assist in the process of re-possession of property in the Czech Republic and Israel.
See our Web pages at and at

Re: Moses & Rebecca Nathan approx. 1792 #unitedkingdom


Hello Ron,

The marriage of Lewis and Hannah was recorded in the marriage register of the New Synagogue. According to census records, Lewis was born in 1815/16 in Christchurch, Spitalfields.

I have a spreadsheet version of the NS marriage records which can be easier to use than the database on SynagogueScribes. Both contain the same information.

I have come across the following record from 1816:  Moshe ben Nathan married Rebqeh bat Yehuda-Leib (ref. NSM 574). There are no other details, not even a specific date.

This marriage would certainly appear to be that of Lewis's parents. He was named after his mother's father (Yehuda-Leib) and he named his first son Nathan (b. 1841) after his paternal grandfather. 


Justin Levy

Re: tracing American relatives #usa


The New York Times carried these kinds of personal ads up through the 1960s or 1970s.  Sometimes they appeared at the bottom of the front page of the first section, in very small font.

Marc M. Cohen, Los Gatos, California, USA

BARAK/CANTORCZY: Khotin, Bessarabia; Strorozhinets, Bukovina, Ukraine
CHOMITZ/HAMETZ: Ionina (Janina), Greece; Ignatovka, Ukraine; Kiev Gubernia, Ukraine
COHEN: Dinovitsi (Dunayevtsy) Ukraine; Roman/Tirgu Frumos, Romania
KORNITZKY: Kiev Gubernia, Stepnitz/Stepantsy, Ukraine
RÎBNER: Storozhinetz, Costesti (Costyntsi), Drachinets, Cabesti, Bukovina, Ukraine
ROSENBERG: Tirgu Frumos, Roman, Romania; ISRAEL
WEININGER: Cabesti, Costesti, Drachinets, Czernowitz, Bukovina, Ukraine

Re: 1-page Translation of Testimony by Dr. Robert Meidler from German to English #holocaust #translation

Friedrich L.

Good morning from Germany,
I would love to translate the text for you but I don't find it anymore. Did you already find help?
Best regards!

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Re: tracing American relatives #usa

Kenneth Ryesky

If I recall correctly, the Jewish Exponent in Philadelphia similarly carried such "seeking relatives" advertisements.

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Seeking genealogical resources for Milicz (Militsch) SW Poland #poland

Moses Jefferson

Hi Genners!

I recently posted a request for help locating a town mentioned in a Poznan census (see here). It turns out to be Milicz (or Militsch in German), in the lower Silesian region. Here’s a brief history concerning its Jewish inhabitants (from

At first, the Jewish population inhabiting Milicz was very small. There were 5–10 Jewish families living in Milicz in the years 1794–1812, that is a total of no more than 50 people. The local Jewish community was established in the early 19th century; a small synagogue was erected in the town in 1820. A cemetery was opened around the same period. The statute of the Jewish community of Milicz dates back to 1860; at the time, the community was the most populous. In 1848, it had 105 members, while in 1864 – as many as 197. The number of Jewish inhabitants of Milicz started to dwindle in 1871, falling from 64 in 1871 to 46 in 1937. The trend was temporarily reversed at the turn of 1925, when as many as 91 Jews lived in the town.
As one can see, the community was indeed a young one with most of it’s inhabitants emigrating from other towns nearby or traders (Militsch was located near a frequent trading route).

However, I’m struggling to find any existing Jewish records from the town. In a book by Bloch Fritz (pub. Breslau 1926), he mentions various records both from the Kahal and civil records which (supposedly) are located at the Gesamtarchiv dear Deutschen Juden zu Berlin. If any of these still survive? Who knows.

I would appreciate to learn if records from this community exist, since I cannot even find vital Jewish records. We’re BM&D perhaps registered elsewhere? We’re they destroyed during the war?
Additionally, I learned of the existence of a Jewish Cemetery. I would very much like to know if the cemetery has been photographed or mapped by anyone in the past, given the ongoing international situation which refrains me from travelling there in person.

Best, Moses Jefferson
London, UK

Re: An Old Song - Possibly Russian, possibly Yiddish #general


Oh yes!  In Israel/ Hebrew, the rooster says 'Kukuriku' as an American rooster crows 'cock-a-doodle-do'.
Shirley Ginzburg
seeking SHLUGER/SCHLAGER from Shepetovka area Ukraine;  descendants from town of DUBNO, Ukraine;  DAMATOVSKY/DEMATOFF from Mir area of Belarus.

Re: ViewMate translation request – One Name in Old German Script #germany #general

Ernst-Peter Winter

Hi Josh,

I may add, that Moses Salomon's wife's first name was most
likely not "Betty"
(compare the first capital letter with the last name
Benjamin), the end to me looks more like
something like ".ettig", sorry not to be of more help.
The first name is definitely Betty (y with dots: Bettÿ).
It's a mixed text from old German with Latin script.
Surnames and also place names are written in Latin script -
compare Rendsburg or Sanct Pauli.

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster (Hessen)

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