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Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

David Lewin
 

At 11:41 11/06/2020, Jill Whitehead via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I am seeking an English equivalent of the first name Shapsei who was
the father of Samuel Servian who was a cousin of my grandfather who
was also called Samuel Servian (ne Serwianski). Shapsei and his son
were born in Kovno in Lithuania, whereas my Servians came from
nearby Sejny in Suwalki Gubernia in NE Poland. I have come across
Samuel as being a translation of Shapsei, but this seems unlikely as
his son was called Samuel. Certain names are repeated in the
Servian/Serwianski family (e.g. Mordecai/Max, Josiel/Joseph,
Baruch/Barnet, Abraham/Albert, Jacob/Julius) but Shapsei is not one
of them - could this be a pet name for another name?

There are several Samuel Servian/Server/Serviansky's (all cousins)
in the same generation who lived in variously Liverpool, UK;
Middlesbrough, UK (a rabbinical line who came from Vistytis in
Lithuania which used to be in Suwalki Gubernia until 1919), Chicago,
Pittsburgh, California, Grand Rapids, Toronto and New York. Most
have two first names. My grandfather was Samuel Salmon (Solomon),
and his Liverpool cousin was Samuel Henry (presumably after
Hirsch?). Therefore it is possible Shapsei is one part of a two part name.

I would be interested to hear if anyone else has a Shapsei in their
family and what the English version of the name was most likely to be.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK
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The Hebrew name is Shbtai - derives from Shabbat

David Lewin
London


PRERO family #names

Neil Rosenstein
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Rabbi Elisha #PRERO who
married Miriam, daughter of Arthur #DORDEK of Chicago and had six
children - Netanel Prero, Eliyahu Prero, Issachar Dov Prero, Moshe
Prero, Yehuda Prero and Avigail.
Miriam's mother was Sally (Sheindel Devora), daughter of Rabbi
Eliyahu Haim #BERGER a descendant of Rabbi Shmuel #KLEIN known as
Shmelke Selisher.


Re: Help with handwriting on JRI Birth Certificate #translation

Ernst-Peter Winter
 

Hello,

...  I can make out the first
name of her father, Hersch,  but I cannot read his surname
so do I

or make out the name of her mother.
Her mothers name is Jachet Kitler

Ernst-Peter Winter, Münster (Hessen)


Departure from the U.S. #general

Crivorot, Sergio
 

My grandfather emigrated from Opatow, Poland (Russia at that time) to Brazil in 1914. We knew that he had arrived at the very beginning of the First World War. recently I got some documents and a copy of passengers manifest of the vessel that brought him to Brazil, in August 1914.

To my surprise, he came on the British vessel Vauban that sailed from New York approximately on July 25, 1914. Other members of the family that came in other dates all sailed from some European port. So I am wondering about a few things that maybe you would like to speculate or answer affirmatively for me:
  • Was this a usual route - sailing from Europe to the US and then to South America ? Sounds expensive for a third class passenger
  •  
  • Would have he lived in the US for a while ? Did he need a visa to arrive to the US in 1914 from Russian Poland ? Maybe this was just a case of immediate connection (the boat sailed Europe - NY - Rio) and he didn't even leave the boat
  •  
  • What is the best way to find traces of his stay in or transit through NY ? I have always read several of you discussing US arrivals, but I never paid much attention as it didn't relate to my family history, but now I am curious about what happened
  
Any speculation is welcome.

Sergio Crivorot

researching
Opatow, Poland - WROCLAVSKI, WAJC/WAJS
Opole, Poland - ZYLBERSTAJN, SILBERMAN
Moldova - KRIVOROT, LIPOVETSKY, YANKELEVICH


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

Sally Bruckheimer
 

Shapsei, Szabsie often in Polish, is a nickname for Shabatai, like Shabatai Zvi. Nothing special about it, other than that.
 
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Name of Mendelson #names

Alan Tapper
 

Sarah Greenberg,
I have not been researching that spelling but of that of MENDELEWICZ, MENDELOVICH and MENDELEWITZ in Belarus. They all mean the same: son of Mendel. The family has roots in Belarus that supposedly go back to 1650. Perhaps we should talk

Alan Tapper
Sabaalan@...


Re: Why the name "Sylvester"? #names

Jane Foss
 

It may be a variant of Saul or Sol, according to the research I've done..the general meaning of the name refers to forests, and is found in the state's name, PennSYlVANIA, which had lots of forests...janefoss
 
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jane


Re: Mount Judah cemetery, Mount Sinai plot #usa #general

A. E. Jordan
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Reische <a.reische@...>
to see if the Plot was allocated to a
specific lamdsmannschaft but they have only information linking the Plot
to Mount Sinai Synagogue


Unfortunately no time frame is mentioned but in the 1930s there was a survey of sorts done of all the religious institutions and it is now on microfilm at the NYC City Hall Library .... same building at the Archives but different room in the back of the first floor,

I have not done too much work with the file but when I tried one of the staff in the room helped.  On their computer they had a finding aid with permitted them to search by name and then they can ID the reel and file number.  Some of the surveys were multiple pages with the history of the organization and some were one page and very basic.

Also I believe it is possibly to look at the original incorporation papers to see how they described the organization.  The burial societies, if they were incorporated, worked like an insurance company with that level of regulation by the state so there's a paper trail.  I think the same is true if it was an established shul versus something that operated out of someone's basement or such. 

But all of that will only tell you about the organization.  Some had fairly strict rules about maintaining their geographic heritage or such but a lot of them took in outsiders so to speak.  Relatives by marriage or even friends seemed to be able to buy plots. Personally I have family by marriage in a Warsaw plot who had no known connection to Warsaw or even Poland.  The man killed himself and the distraught wife might have turned to a friend or something to help make the arrangements for his burial or since most burial societies shunned a suicide they might have had to hunt around to find one that did not know him or did not care that he killed himself. 

Long way of saying you can find information on the organizations but that does not certainly confirm the personal information.

Allan Jordan


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

Chuck Weinstein
 

My great great grandfather was known in Romania as Shapsie, but when he came to America (1889), he Americanized it to Saul.  His Hebrew name was Shabtai (or Shabsai in Ashkenazic pronunciation).

Chuk Weinstein
Bellport, NY
chuck1@...


Re: synagogue memorial plaques #JewishGenUpdates

Max Heffler
 

Nolan Altman

Memorial Plaques Database Coordinator

NAltman@...



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To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: [JewishGen.org] synagogue memorial plaques #JewishGenUpdates
 
My religious school students copied the names and dates on the memorial plaques in the synagogue.  I remember that there is a push to record this information somewhere.  Can somebody tell me what group collects that information and how I should send the data to them.

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Re: Spanish translation help requested #translation

Crivorot, Sergio
 

 

 

Finally somebody posts a document that I can help with ! Unfortunately I can’t help with the place called Vakum, but the rest is as follows:

 

·       November 15, 1938 – town of San Luis de Potosi

·       Miguel Levinoff, married, coppersmith, 27 years old, from Vakum, Russia, resident at calle de Guajardo 37 (or something similar)

·       Birth on November 4 of a girl, Margarita Levinoff

·       Mother Aida Bosques, 17 years old, from Cuba,

·       The baby is a granddaughter of Jorge Levinoff and Ana Kuik (?) , deceased and of Juan Bosques (40 years old) and Ana Bosques , 35

·       Witnesses Moises Rodriguez and Guillermo de La Vega, single, adults, not relatives of the family


Re: Spanish translation help requested #translation

gdardik@...
 

Hi Leya,

This is the birth certificate registration for Margarita Levinoff, born on Nov 4, 1938 in San Luis Potosi, Mexico, to Miguel Levinoff, 27, originally from Vakum (?), Russia and his wife, Aida Bosques, originally from Cuba, married, 17 years old. 
Miguel's parents, both deceased, were Jorge Levinoff and Ana Kuik.
(On the left side, is written Miguel's immigration file number: 82113.
Miguel & Aida's address was: Calle de Guajardo 37, if I can understand correctly the handwriting.
Not a literally translation, but the main points.
I hope it helps you in your research.
Regards.
Gabriel Dardik 
Weston, FL
Researching 
DARDIK & STISMAN (Soroka & Vertujieni, Bessarabia)
LIBERMAN (Trochenbrod, Sofievka, Lutsk -Ukraine)
Strazgorodsky (Ukraine)


Re: Mount Judah cemetery, Mount Sinai plot #usa #general

dasw5@...
 

Census records show Louis is from Austria.  Citizenship application indicates from Germany - although records indicate Mamie was from Germany.

Suggestions - try to get actual Death Certificate

                        Did Louis have siblings? Did his parents come to US?  You can try searching records for those relatives - passenger manifests, marriage & death certificates. Marriage certificates give place of birth information, citizenship records

Hope this helps

                        


Re: Spanish translation help requested #translation

cesar465y@...
 

Hi,
The basic facts are:
Birth record of Margarita Luvinoff (04/11/1938) in the city of San Luis Potosí.
Father: Miguel Luvinoff, 27 years old from Vakum, Russia. Miguel is son of Jorge Lubinoff and Ana Kwik, both perished?
Mother: Aída Bosques, 17 years old from Cuba. Aída is daughter of Juan Bosques (40 years old) and Ana Bosques (37 years old).
Margarita' parents were married.
The record is dated 15/11/1938.

Cesar Yeudkin
Israel


Re: Searching for Ann Muriel PINKUS , Daily City, California #usa

Prim50@...
 

I also am researching Pinkus ancestry. Grandfather Harry (Pinchos)  Pinkus born possibly in Sochachev Poland (near Warsaw) about 1888 and immigrated to US in 1912.. Brother Maier Pinkus was given as contact for a sister Esther Pinkus who immigrated to US in 1923. Father;s name was Wolf/Zev Pinkus. I know nothing about the family prior to immigration or what happened to Maier. Harry Pinkus married Helen Flam from Warsaw in US. Also looking for information on Flam's.


ViewMate Translation-Russian Yurik family #ukraine #translation

etishman@...
 

Hello all

I am looking for a translation from Russian from the 1850 and 1858 censuses about the Yurik family in Talne. The ViewMate numbers are 82220 and 82221.

Thank you in advance,

Eric Tishman


synagogue memorial plaques #JewishGenUpdates

itsdikka@...
 

My religious school students copied the names and dates on the memorial plaques in the synagogue.  I remember that there is a push to record this information somewhere.  Can somebody tell me what group collects that information and how I should send the data to them.


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

Adam Turner
 

Shapsei (Shopsy, Shepsel, etc.) is a Yiddish form of the Hebrew name Shabbatai.

I have at least four Shabbatai/Shepsels on my tree. The generation they were born in probably influenced the names they went by in English.

The two born before 1880 both went by the name Samuel or Sam.
Another, born in 1903, was a Sidney.
The fourth was born in 1929 and at various times went by the names Salven, Selwyn, or Shep.


Re: The male name Shapsei #names #lithuania

David Gordon
 

My father's Hebrew name was Shapsei, or Shopsy (after a great-grandfather named Shabbetai).  His given name was Charles but for almost his whole life he went by Shep.
 
David Gordon
Evanston, IL (USA)


Re: Why the name "Sylvester"? #names

BRENERDA@...
 

I can't tell you way but Sylvester in  my Levy family dates back to the early 1800 with a family from Koschmin, Pleschen, Posen, Prussia . Now, I believe is Kroroszyn, Powiat krotoszyfiski, Welkoposkie, Poland.  The Hebrew on the tombstone states birth at "Kashfein". It is Sylvester Louis Levy 1808 circa-1868 who is buried in Memphis. He, wife and 4 children arrived in NYC in 1857. Slyvester was used in three generations of his two sons. Its use died out with the last male in each brother's line.

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