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JGS Toronto invitation to a series of free MyHeritage genealogical webinars
#events
#announcements
Jerry Scherer
JGS Toronto invitation to a series of free MyHeritage genealogical webinars
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto is proud to present MyHeritage Genealogy Expert, Daniel Horowitz, in a series of free genealogical webinars on Thursdays @ 10 am. On June 18th: MyHeritage's Unique Technologies to Research Your Family, with Daniel Horowitz To register for this and other MyHeritage webinars, go to https://1drv.ms/w/s!Aj0KbYtxFZQsg7p02wIzT9ap35faiw?e=mKjFgG
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Re: Recent Record Updates
#JewishGenUpdates
grandmanah
You guys are amazing, thanks for all of the volunteer work you do, Deborah Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Avraham Groll <agroll@...> Date: 6/13/20 8:58 PM (GMT-07:00) To: main@... Subject: [Special] [JewishGen.org] Recent Record Updates #JewishGenUpdates Dear JewishGen Community,
Holocaust:
We are pleased to report the following records which have been added to our collection since May 21.
We thank our donors and the many volunteers who contributed their time to the completion of these projects. Please stay tuned for additional updates. If you have collections of data you would like to submit for inclusion on JewishGen, please contact support@.... Avraham Groll Executive Director JewishGen.org
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Recent Record Updates
#JewishGenUpdates
Avraham Groll
Dear JewishGen Community,
Holocaust:
We are pleased to report the following records which have been added to our collection since May 21.
We thank our donors and the many volunteers who contributed their time to the completion of these projects. Please stay tuned for additional updates. If you have collections of data you would like to submit for inclusion on JewishGen, please contact support@.... Avraham Groll Executive Director JewishGen.org
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Re: Sourcing Photos
#general
#photographs
Personally I don't trust metadata. I name the file to reflect contents: Date in YYYY-MM-DD followed by the names of people in the picture or a descriptive word or two. If I don't know the year, I'll put my best guess followed by "ca" for circa, e.g. 1956 ca. I can search in Windows file explorer easily. And it's fully transportable between programs and platforms. A file name is a file name.
To comment on adding text to the front of the picture, I'd say it's a matter of the purpose of the file. On the rare occasion I've done it, I've kept a clean copy of the picture as well. Storage is cheap! You can buy a 2TB external drive for $65. Don't worry about duplicates.
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Family connection found
#poland
I know this list is usually used to ask for help or announce new programs or resources. But I've just had a such a remarkable experience where a rapid series of coincidences resulted in an unexpected find and wanted to share it.
I'm not that familiar with JewishGen's resources and haven't made much use of them. For that reason, I took their introduction class earlier this week. I do have an account and I'm registered with Family Finder as a researcher for two branches of my family tree. I haven't had much luck locating other's searching my families – there being only one other, who passed away in 2002. During last week's class I was rechecking these entries and made a note of his name to follow up in case there was a tree remaining on Ancestry. I also learned that it was possible to search Family Finder by location without a family name. When I tried that, I browsed the resulting list and noticed an unusual family name that happened to belong to my old high school friend David. I sent David a note, telling him about my discovery and asking if his family had come from Suchowola. He responded that, yes, they had ... and, in fact, two other high school classmates, Debbie and Kerry, also had family from that town. Sadly, Debbie had died last April, but Kerry and David had both done research into Suchowola and Kerry had toured the town with a video camera a few years back. In my high school days, not only was I not interested in my family history, but our family connection to Suchowola wasn't discovered until I i was in graduate school, when I taped my grandfather recounting his family's story. Still it was a bit of a blow to realize now, 50 years after-the-fact, that I'd missed the opportunity to connect with my school friends over shared family history, especially now that one had passed away. That same day, I followed up the lead using the name of researcher who'd passed away. He was the husband of one of my father's cousins, and it turned out that their youngest daughter had recently launched a family tree on Ancestry using her father's notes. I sent her a message explaining our relationship and asking if we could exchange information. Our grandfathers were brothers, two of eight children, who dispersed between Memphis, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, and the next generation was even more far-flung. The cousin I contacted was part of the Pittsburgh branch, none of whom I'd ever met. I received a very enthusiastic answer from her and her two older sisters and we've shared each others trees and begun to exchange notes about more opaque parts of our family trees. The following morning I received a long note from one of the older sisters who had more firsthand experience of the family. Among the memories she shared, such as having dinner with my grandfather and visiting with family in Israel, she mentioned that our cousin Debbie had died in April. Yes, the same Debbie from my high school class, the same one whose connection to Suchowola I'd learned of the only day before, was my second cousin. Debbie was the granddaughter of my grandfather's youngest sister Freda. And I had no idea until these two threads same together, coincidentally, within a period of 24 hours. You may be asking, "What the hell is wrong with this family? How could cousins living in the same town and going to the same school not know they were related?" Well. I'm asking that same question. For reasons I've yet to uncover, I never met my grandfather's sister Freda or any of her family. In fact, I met only one of my grandfather's siblings, and then only once and only by accident, even though it would have been quite possible. And I haven't met anyone from the following generations. My genealogical research didn't help. I'd reached as far as Debbie's mother, that she had married and had two daughters, but not filled in their names. (Ancestry still can't locate any vital records for Debbie, even after I manually entered her name into the record.). But it wasn't just me. When I first heard about the classmates connected to Suchowola (before the more surprising revelation), I sent a note to two of my older first cousins with David, Kerry, and Debbie's names, asking if they were aware of any family connection. None. It's one of the most baffling and frustrating aspects of my family's story, that the connections turned out to be so fragile: that my grandfather would constantly recite the family tree – "my brother..." "my sister's kids ..." – but never brought us together; that I could go to school for four years with a cousin and never know we were related. Here I am poring over Polish records from the 19th century looking for links to people I can never know, and yet I have living family, some quite nearby, I may never know. Lee Jaffe JAFFE - Suchowola STEINSAPIR - SAPIR - STEIN - Bialystok JOROFF - KOSHKIN - Shchors/Snovks SCHWARTZ - Perth Amboy
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I have never found an answer for which viewpoint is used to determine a connection to a cousin. I recently discovered the great-granddaughter of my great-great-grandfather. From my standpoint I would think she would be my 3rd cousin, once removed. However, Ancestry says she is my 2nd cousin, once removed (up a generation). That seems to be from her viewpoint. I then checked the great-granddaughter of my grandfather. This time Ancestry looked at it from my viewpoint, and labeled her my 1st cousin, once removed. (down a generation). Can someone clarify, as I have always wondered. Thanks.
Carl Kaplan Kaplan, Edelsen (Minsk) Steinberg (Lviv) Hoffert, Bienenstock (Kolbuzowa)
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Re: Translate Yiddish Grave
#photographs
#translation
#yiddish
kassells@...
Hi Tammy,
There is just one correction from the excellent translation by Joseph Ash. The name of the father of the deceased person is Menachem Arieh. Arieh is a middle name and not an abbreviation of "land of Israel" Best regards Laurent Kassel Moreshet, Israel
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Re: Name of Mendelson
#names
sacredsisters1977@...
Hi All
So as I stated in my previous post I have researched this line for years and have it going back to the 1700's. As far as the records revealed my earliest ancestor is Shlomo Mendelson born about 1760. It is not known to me how many children he had. I only have names of two, Nochim born 1788, and Yankel born 1801. Each of them had children and so fourth the branches spread. I have well over 100 names and about 65 of them are a mystery fate unknown. So, I always seek to find connections to help me fill in the blanks. There are decendants out there, that I have been unable to make contact with as of yet but I know they are out there. Some of those maybe under the surname of Doctoroff, Woll/Wall, Allen, and Dumchin to name a few. So if anyone of you out there has any of these connections please contact me. I understand that over the course of history people moved around a lot due to numerous wars and dislike, but I am positive that my line stems solely from Mogilev/Shklove Belarus. Feel free to ask me questions. Sarah Greenberg(USA) sacredsisters1977@...
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Re: Other names for Yitzchak?
#names
Alyssa Freeman
Yitzchak is "Isaac" in Hebrew. Alyssa Freeman Henrico, VA
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Re: Har Nebo Cemetery in Phila
#photographs
#usa
This is a very sad cemetery in an urban neighborhood.
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ronni_kern@...
Based on the death certificate of her eldest son David Blistein, I have long assumed that one of my great grandmothers was named Esther Resnick (Blistein) . Recently I had an old Yiddish letter translated. It was written to my grandfather in either 1953 or 1959 from his cousin Nathan Resnick in the Bronx. Using the names of Nathan's wife and daughter in the letter, we were able to trace his brother and sister, also in New York and learn from manifests and death certificates, that their father's name was Abram Resnick, or Resnik or Reznik and that the family came from Pohost. Since both my grandparents came from the Slutsk area, this was no surprise but we would very much like to find some evidence that Abram Reznik was a sibling of Esther Resnick who died in childbirth in 1890. Any Resnicks from Pohost out there?
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Bob Friedman
These are two possibilities. I haven't read them myself so I can't say how useful they might be.
-- Bob Friedman Brooklyn, NY
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Pincus LISHINSKY/LECZINSKY/LISCHINSKY/LEGINSKI
#names
Felissa Lashley
I need some assistance in finding the passenger record to Ellis Island for my grandfather, Pincus LISHINSKY spelt a variety of ways. He said that he arrived on the SS St. Louis from Southampton to Ellis Island on January 23, 1905. One time, it was noted that he entered through Philadelphia. He would have been travelling alone I believe, age 28-30, a tailor, married from Gorodische, Cherkassy, Kiev, Russia. I have tried using the Steve Morse site but have not had any luck to date. I would appreciate any suggestions please. Thank you.
Felissa Lashley
Austin, Texas
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Re: Sourcing Photos
#general
#photographs
Dahn Cukier
First, I will say I am against changes to original images. In Windows there are many apps to add text. PAINT and IRFANVIEW both permit adding text. PAINT (and maybe IRFANVIEW) will permit stretching the photo and add text in the new area. Irfanview will permit notes to the metadata which is not shown on the photo. Linux. EXIFTOOL a CLI that permits adding metadata. NOTE: I do not change metadata except for orientation. I use an index file of all photos to be displayed and BK for documentation captured from computer screens. Documentation file names contain the name of the subject. The index file lets me document a wedding photo with 20 people per photo, and find it easily. Dani When you start to read readin, how do you know the fellow that wrote the readin, wrote the readin right? Festus Hagen Long Branch Saloon Dodge City, Kansas (Gunsmoke)
On Saturday, June 13, 2020, 07:34:09 PM GMT+3, susiekrumholz via groups.jewishgen.org <susiekrumholz=me.com@...> wrote: Do you mind sharing that app (and IOS or Windows or ?) that allows you to add labeling and comments at the bottom under the photo? I have not heard of this and need it badly!!!! Thanks for all of your comments!
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Elizabeth Jackson
Thank you to all who have responded to my post. This group is so wonderful at sharing information. All of your suggestions and insight have been most helpful.
I may never know for sure which Rabbi my grandfather visited, but I now have a better idea of why he would have made this trip. I only learned recently that the family was Chasidic. My mother had only said her family was Orthodox. However, her mother was a Klepfisz and that family had many members who were Rabbis. Does anyone know if there were any lists of who were members of specific religious sects? I know so little about my grandfather, I am searching for any means of learning more. Thanks again for everyone's help. Elizabeth Jackson
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Re: Translate Yiddish Grave
#photographs
#translation
#yiddish
Schonfeld.family@...
The translation:
Halevy A dear and honorable man young age mo"h (morenu harav our teacher the rabi- usually it doesn't mean he was a rabi) Shmaryah son of Moshe Ary(eh) n"y(nero yair - his candle will light means his fther was alive) Ribnik (Rivnik) died 2nd day of Passover year 5,685 May his soul be bound in the bond of life The death date 31 March 1926.
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Re: Town in Hungary KOMIDAT (UNGAR)
#hungary
Susan H. Sachs
Here is information on a town with a similar name in Hungarian:
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Uzhhorod/ Uzhhorod was called Ungvar in Hungarian, which covered most of its history of the past 100 years. Good luck -
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Re: Translate Yiddish Grave
#photographs
#translation
#yiddish
David Shapiro
Not "land of Israel", rather "Aryeh", i.e. the father's full name was 'Menachem Aryeh'. And "may his light shine" indicates that the father was still alive at the time.
David Shapiro Jerusalem
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Re: Records in the Lithuanian database
#lithuania
Joel Ratner
I have never had any knowledge of those records - someone in LitvakSIG who has access to the database may be able to help.
Joel Ratner
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Herbert (Naphtali) BACHARACH of Mansbach (Hessen) and Kiryat Bialik (Israel)
#germany
#israel
#holocaust
Ralph Baer
My closest relative who perished in the Holocaust was my mother’s father’s sister Hedwig BACHARACH née GUNZENHÄUSER (23 July 1884 Memmelsdorf in Unterfranken, Bayern – 1944 Auschwitz), married to Sally BACHARACH (14 October 1883 Mansbach, Hessen – 19 November 1944 Buchenwald).
They had three sons, all born in Mansbach. The second, Rudi, was killed in 1936 while studying farming in Germany, so that he could immigrate to Palestine. The youngest, Max, moved to Sweden, and I have been in contact with one of his children.
The oldest was Herbert. He moved to Israel, at the time Palestine, and was called there Naphtali. According to Pages of Testimony which he wrote for his parents and brother Rudi, he lived in Kiryat Bialik. He stopped contact with his brother in Sweden because the brother married a non-Jew from Germany. A mutual first cousin of my mother and him who lived in Haifa and is now dead, also did not know what became of Herbert (Naphtali) BACHARACH.
Is anyone familiar with him and can supply information as to whether he married, had descendants, etc.?
-- Ralph N. Baer RalphNBaer@... Washington, DC
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