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Re: Migration from Galicia to Vienna and Germany #austria-czech #germany #general

Phil Schwarz
 

My great-grandfather (father's mother's father), Moritz Schwebel, born in 1864, migrated from Czortków, Galicia, to Vienna, in the 1880s or 1890s.  My grandfather (father's father), Samuel Schwarz, born in 1893, migrated from Grzymalów, Galicia to Vienna in the 1910s.
 
Phil Schwarz
SCHWARZ/SCHWARTZ, KATZ (Grzymalów, Galicia)
SCHWEBEL, KALLENBERG, KLEIN, SCHRAMM, WOLFMANN (Czortków, Galicia; Neulengbach and Vienna, Austria)
ADLER, FEITH (Koblenz, Germany)
ROSENTHAL, ELKAN, BLOCK (Wetzlar, Germany)
HEYMANN (Cologne, Germany; Amsterdam, Netherlands)
A product of a mixed marriage: my father was a Galizianer, my mother a Yekke :-).
 


Re: Hungarian labor brigades - first person narrations #russia #hungary #romania #ukraine

Ron Hoenig
 

My father Gabor Hoenig (1922-2015) was part of group of forced labor survivors who wrote a short collective history of the IX/1 Battalion of forced laborers. It's in Hungarian and is named after a pop song of 40s A vaci utca felragyog (Vaci Street lights up). Its author was Propper Jeno. Those who can read Hungarian would find it very useful. On the back there is the following (my very rough translation)

More than a third of us perished between the curve of the Don and the battlefield. From our many companies nobody or a few solitary witnesses survived.A great many of us perished in the mines at Bor or on the road. Huge numbers also died on the Western border or were deported to the German territories. Forty two percent of the  "lucky" company survived and fifty-eight percent died or disappeared in the last few weeks. We cherish the memory of our comrades who were unable to survive the murderous weeks of the Nyilas (Arrow Cross) regime, and the memories of the millions who were cruelly murdered by facsism. We trust the future of our memories to this chronicle. Letters don't die ...

Ron Hoenig
Adealide South Australia
HOENIG, BERKOVITS, RUTNER,  IZSAK


Viewmate translation request - Russian #russia #translation

Scott Fischthal
 


I've posted two vital records in Russian for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
 
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
 
Thank you very much for your help!
 
Scott Fischthal
Researching: KRONENBERG (Wyskow/Nasielsk/Zakroczym), PLOMIAK (Zakroczym), FISCHTHAL (Czortkow), SZUMACHER (Przasnysz), ARMLAND (Przasnysz), HOLZMAN (Wyszkow), GOSENPUD (Minsk), OXENKRUG (Minsk), REAMER (Baisogala/Seduva), BUCHMAN (Kopatkevichi)


Berlichingen #germany

ירוחם צבי קינסטליך
 



mybe someone knows from where did they come the berlichingen jew? 

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I am looking for an original documents  of my mother 's parents, even one document.they were lived in bilgoraj, in1941 they escaped to uzbekistan, there they died both of them.the hospital did give them to the children so also,we don't know their grave.

 

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Re: NJ help--METZENDORF-SOSSNER-FORMAN-JENNI-PRAISSMAN #general

preissman@...
 

Hello,
going thru data base and noticed Jennie (1898-1981) and Usher Praissman (1871-1950). Usher was my great grandfather’s brother David Preissman (1874-1959). We have done considerable research on this side of our tree and continue to find new discoveries.  How are you related to Usher/Otto Praissman?  R,
Daniel Preissman (preissman@...)

 


Re: From Which Viewpoint Are Cousins Named? #general #names

David Brostoff
 

On Jun 13, 2020, at 4:02 PM, carl.kaplan via groups.jewishgen.org <carl.kaplan=ymail.com@...> wrote:

Ancestry says she is my 2nd cousin, once removed (up a generation). That seems to be from her viewpoint. I then checked the great-granddaughter of my grandfather. This time Ancestry looked at it from my viewpoint, and labeled her my 1st cousin, once removed.
Others have answered your question, but just so I understand, where is Ancestry giving you this information?

David


Re: From Which Viewpoint Are Cousins Named? #general #names

Joyaa Antares
 

Sarah Meyer writes, “Count the generations back to the siblings on EACH side so if on your side it is 4 and on the other side it is 3, the smaller number is the cousin - in this case 3 and the positive difference is the removed (4-3)=1.  It does not matter whose number is smaller.  So in this example the relationship would be third cousins once removed (my underline).  If the numbers were 2 and 5, it would be second cousins 3 times removed.  

As I read Carl’s original post, if he counts back to the siblings as Sarah suggests (and would give the correct answer), then it is 3 on Carl’s side and 2 on the other.  As ancestry correctly stated, second cousins once removed (2C1R).

Joyaa ANTARES
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia


Translation request - Polish to English #translation #poland

Elizabeth Jackson
 

I am hoping someone can translate #35 at the top left of this document for me.  It is a record for a Wolf Hirsch Ingberg.

Thanks in advance.

Elizabeth Jackson

Researching:. Ingberg, Klepfisz, Goldflam, Ruda, Mandel, Ajzensprung


Chernigov Family Lists Uploaded to JewishGen Website #ukraine #translation

Beth Galleto
 

Dear fellow researchers,

 

I am happy to report that data from family lists (tax censuses) for the Glukhov, Starodub, and Mglin uezds (districts) in 1882 -- translated and transcribed as part of the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project -- has been uploaded to the JewishGen website.

 

The lists are classified under the heading "Ukraine Revision Lists". (Strictly speaking these are not revision lists, but the information in them is similar enough that they fit into this classification.) Once you have linked to the database, the far right column labels the publication type as family lists.

 

You can find these lists by searching the JewishGen Unified Search for a particular surname that you believe came from the area in or near the Glukhov, Starodub, or Mglin uezds. Information you will find in the lists, in addition to a person's name, father's name, family relationship, gender, and age, may include where the family is registered, how long they have lived in their current location, their passport number, whether they own land or rent, and the head of family's occupation. The database includes the FHL film number and the image number. So far all translations under this project have come from film number 1222346, but the project includes five other films that will eventually be added. The films have been scanned and can be viewed on the FamilySearch website.

 

Thank you to all who made donations to advance the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project. The project still has a long way to go to completion, but this is a very good start.

 

Beth Galleto

Project Leader

 

 


Orange County CA JGS 6 Months of Meetings Corrections #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Michelle Sandler
 

The July and August meetings start at 10:00 am Pacific Time not 10:30 am.
 
Michelle Sandler
Vice President of Programming OCJGS
Westminster California


Re: From Which Viewpoint Are Cousins Named? #general #names

Sarah L Meyer
 

Count the generations back to the siblings on EACH side so if on your side it is 4 and on the other side it is 3, the smaller number is the cousin - in this case 3 and the positive difference is the removed (4-3)=1.  It does not matter whose number is smaller.  So in this example the relationship would be third cousins once removed.  If the numbers were 2 and 5, it would be second cousins 3 times removed.


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:30 PM, <carl.kaplan@...> wrote:
I have never found an answer for which viewpoint is used to determine a connection to a cousin. I recently discovered the great-granddaughter of my great-great-grandfather. From my standpoint I would think she would be my 3rd cousin, once removed. However, Ancestry says she is my 2nd cousin, once removed (up a generation). That seems to be from her viewpoint. I then checked the great-granddaughter of my grandfather. This time Ancestry looked at it from my viewpoint, and labeled her my 1st cousin, once removed. (down a generation). Can someone clarify, as I have always wondered. Thanks.

Carl Kaplan
Kaplan, Edelsen (Minsk)
Steinberg (Lviv)
Hoffert, Bienenstock (Kolbuzowa)

 
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Migration from Galicia to Vienna and Germany #austria-czech #germany #general

Joseph Walder
 

I'm aware of some WALDER ancestors who migrated from Lvov in Galicia
to either Vienna or to German cities (Berlin, Leipzig, and others) in
the latter half of the 19th century. Are there any databases that
document such migration? I admit to ignorance about whether people in
Galicia needed permission to relocate within the Austrian empire.
Neither do I know whether there are any German records that bear on
migration from Galicia to the German states (or to unified Germany
after 1870). Any suggestions much appreciated. German-language sources
are not a problem.

Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon, USA
jscottwalder@...


Orange County CA JGS Next 6 Months of Meetings now available for Signing Up #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Michelle Sandler
 

Dear Jewish Genealogical Community:
 
The OCJGS has updated its website.  The website www.ocjgs.org now goes all the way out to November 2020 with links to register for each month.
 
June 28th 1:30 pm Pacific Time - Christine Cohen - Ports of Immigration.
 
July 26th 10:30 am Pacific Time - Alex Krakovsky - Ukrainian Jewish Genealogy
 
August 23rd 10:30 am Pacific Time - Yuri Dorn -  Belarus Jewish Genealogy
 
September 13th 1:30 pm Pacific TIme - Stanley Diamond - JRI Poland, Polish Jewish Genealogy
 
October 25th 1:30 pm Pacific Time - Lara Diamond - Topic TBD
 
November 22nd 1:30 pm Pacific Time - Judy Baston - Lithuanian Jewish Genealogy
 
OCJGS members are free to attend with registration. All others please pay $5.00 per meeting to help cover expenses.  Registration is on our website www.ocjgs.org . Membership is also on our website and dues are $25.00 per year or $35.00 per year for a family.
 
Michelle Sandler
Westminster California
President OCJGS
Vice President of Programming OCJGS
Librarian OCJGS 


Need help translating from Yiddish #photographs #translation

tglickman@...
 

I need help translating a letter . It is posted on Viewmate
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82441 and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82442

Thank you.
Toby Glickman
tglickman@...


Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #poland #russia #translation

Greg Tuckman
 

Hello everyone,
I've posted 5 vital records in Russian for which I need a translation or extraction of data. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

Marriage Record of Abram Icek WAJSBLECH and Sura Erla KON:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82505&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca999ef351a2d4b34cc8708d810aaca2b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277673002403926&amp;sdata=X%2FZ5seAsZuzCTqKt%2BP6bq2%2F%2B5mvSgLSnEFNJbplSDog%3D&amp;reserved=0

Birth Record of Abram Icek WAJSBLECH:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82503&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C14861218aa374206310008d810aac210%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277672866339015&amp;sdata=a8U5FhbIQBdTwp3Fy2qFGbXLefZgQURGngGrR%2Fj5qVQ%3D&amp;reserved=0

Death Record of Wita Bina WAJSBLECH:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82502&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C4907f7f32c374f4ecce408d810aabe9b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277672807436571&amp;sdata=bQXp48linTH3OlYTV5ZIF87ooUQTH2tLMmeGnuEMamA%3D&amp;reserved=0

Death Record of Hersz WAJSBLECH:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82499&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C8512552bae5a408ae0ea08d810aab09e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277672572572469&amp;sdata=alZFxz8r2oOW%2FkUuJ2hT3p7O8SLZ1pq3pFqKwzbRuG8%3D&amp;reserved=0

Marriage Record of Hersz WAJSBLECH to Wita Bina ZEMLER:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82498&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C34b35b86afdb4a269d4708d810aaab76%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277672493740301&amp;sdata=MPoE4AvQnW1eB5Mfqjb7%2BYOPLU97rO9HgaPfd32%2FeLQ%3D&amp;reserved=0
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Greg Tuckman
Phoenix, Arizona  USA


ViewMate Translation Request -French #translation

Fred Half
 

I've posted a vital record in French for which I need a translation. Full translation of the upper image (No. 69) especially names and relationships. I know the date of death of the person (Isaac BODENHEIMER). It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82400

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
 
Fred

Fred Half
Palo Alto, CA USA
fredhalf@...


Re: From Which Viewpoint Are Cousins Named? #general #names

Christine Hills
 

I use this simple way to remember:
First cousins share Grandparents
Second cousins share Great Grandparents
Third cousins share Great Great Grand parents
Fourth cousins share 3x Great Grand parents etc.
For times removed count the generations from the above
e.g. My father's first cousin is my first cousin once removed
His second cousin is my second cousin once removed
My Grandfathers first cousin is my first cousin twice removed etc.

Christine Hills Dublin Ireland tinasusanamy@...


Re: Other names for Yitzchak? #names

Phyllis Berenson
 

A great resource for given names is/are the Given Names Data Bases on JewishGen:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/
My maternal grandfather was Itzchok, known in the US as Isaac, Izzy and sometimes as Isadore.
Phyllis Gold Berenson
San Francisco and Sonoma, California
Researching: BERENSON (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Shargorod, Ukraine), MILMAN (Briceni Moldova) , FINKELSTEIN (Zamosc, Poland), GOLDFARB (Pavlivka,Ukraine, Poland) MELAMED Lukiv, Ukraine, Poland), GOLDGEIN (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Moldova)


Re: Munz (Munz) Hatschek, Csapkovitz #hungary

esteban.reti@...
 

Well done, George. You are going a great job. I use to follow you. All your information can be used to my own Wertheimer family tree. Be well.


Re: Moses Hyam or Hyam Moses - name reversal in early 19th century #unitedkingdom

Diane Jacobs
 

Just to add some humor to this subject.
I have a great uncle Samuel Aaron
Singman who was born Aaron Samuel. His family told me he changed  it in the US, because he didn't want his initials to be ASS.

Diane Jacobs 



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From: jlevy2008@...
Date: 6/14/20 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Moses Hyam or Hyam Moses - name reversal in early 19th century #unitedkingdom

Thank you, Bob.

You have confirmed what I suppose I already suspected. People did reverse their secular given and family names. But it's great to hear some concrete examples.

I once knew a guy in the UK with the surname MORRIS. His grandfather or great-father appeared in secular records as Breslauer MORRIS. That was a pretty obvious case of name reversal. It did not take long to find the record of the adoption of the surname BRESLAUER by a man called Moritz.

Justin Levy
Dubai, UAE
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey