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Re: From Which Viewpoint Are Cousins Named? #general #names

Joyaa Antares
 

Sarah Meyer writes, “Count the generations back to the siblings on EACH side so if on your side it is 4 and on the other side it is 3, the smaller number is the cousin - in this case 3 and the positive difference is the removed (4-3)=1.  It does not matter whose number is smaller.  So in this example the relationship would be third cousins once removed (my underline).  If the numbers were 2 and 5, it would be second cousins 3 times removed.  

As I read Carl’s original post, if he counts back to the siblings as Sarah suggests (and would give the correct answer), then it is 3 on Carl’s side and 2 on the other.  As ancestry correctly stated, second cousins once removed (2C1R).

Joyaa ANTARES
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia


Translation request - Polish to English #translation #poland

Elizabeth Jackson
 

I am hoping someone can translate #35 at the top left of this document for me.  It is a record for a Wolf Hirsch Ingberg.

Thanks in advance.

Elizabeth Jackson

Researching:. Ingberg, Klepfisz, Goldflam, Ruda, Mandel, Ajzensprung


Chernigov Family Lists Uploaded to JewishGen Website #ukraine #translation

Beth Galleto
 

Dear fellow researchers,

 

I am happy to report that data from family lists (tax censuses) for the Glukhov, Starodub, and Mglin uezds (districts) in 1882 -- translated and transcribed as part of the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project -- has been uploaded to the JewishGen website.

 

The lists are classified under the heading "Ukraine Revision Lists". (Strictly speaking these are not revision lists, but the information in them is similar enough that they fit into this classification.) Once you have linked to the database, the far right column labels the publication type as family lists.

 

You can find these lists by searching the JewishGen Unified Search for a particular surname that you believe came from the area in or near the Glukhov, Starodub, or Mglin uezds. Information you will find in the lists, in addition to a person's name, father's name, family relationship, gender, and age, may include where the family is registered, how long they have lived in their current location, their passport number, whether they own land or rent, and the head of family's occupation. The database includes the FHL film number and the image number. So far all translations under this project have come from film number 1222346, but the project includes five other films that will eventually be added. The films have been scanned and can be viewed on the FamilySearch website.

 

Thank you to all who made donations to advance the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project. The project still has a long way to go to completion, but this is a very good start.

 

Beth Galleto

Project Leader

 

 


Orange County CA JGS 6 Months of Meetings Corrections #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Michelle Sandler
 

The July and August meetings start at 10:00 am Pacific Time not 10:30 am.
 
Michelle Sandler
Vice President of Programming OCJGS
Westminster California


Re: From Which Viewpoint Are Cousins Named? #general #names

Sarah L Meyer
 

Count the generations back to the siblings on EACH side so if on your side it is 4 and on the other side it is 3, the smaller number is the cousin - in this case 3 and the positive difference is the removed (4-3)=1.  It does not matter whose number is smaller.  So in this example the relationship would be third cousins once removed.  If the numbers were 2 and 5, it would be second cousins 3 times removed.


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:30 PM, <carl.kaplan@...> wrote:
I have never found an answer for which viewpoint is used to determine a connection to a cousin. I recently discovered the great-granddaughter of my great-great-grandfather. From my standpoint I would think she would be my 3rd cousin, once removed. However, Ancestry says she is my 2nd cousin, once removed (up a generation). That seems to be from her viewpoint. I then checked the great-granddaughter of my grandfather. This time Ancestry looked at it from my viewpoint, and labeled her my 1st cousin, once removed. (down a generation). Can someone clarify, as I have always wondered. Thanks.

Carl Kaplan
Kaplan, Edelsen (Minsk)
Steinberg (Lviv)
Hoffert, Bienenstock (Kolbuzowa)

 
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Migration from Galicia to Vienna and Germany #austria-czech #germany #general

Joseph Walder
 

I'm aware of some WALDER ancestors who migrated from Lvov in Galicia
to either Vienna or to German cities (Berlin, Leipzig, and others) in
the latter half of the 19th century. Are there any databases that
document such migration? I admit to ignorance about whether people in
Galicia needed permission to relocate within the Austrian empire.
Neither do I know whether there are any German records that bear on
migration from Galicia to the German states (or to unified Germany
after 1870). Any suggestions much appreciated. German-language sources
are not a problem.

Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon, USA
jscottwalder@...


Orange County CA JGS Next 6 Months of Meetings now available for Signing Up #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Michelle Sandler
 

Dear Jewish Genealogical Community:
 
The OCJGS has updated its website.  The website www.ocjgs.org now goes all the way out to November 2020 with links to register for each month.
 
June 28th 1:30 pm Pacific Time - Christine Cohen - Ports of Immigration.
 
July 26th 10:30 am Pacific Time - Alex Krakovsky - Ukrainian Jewish Genealogy
 
August 23rd 10:30 am Pacific Time - Yuri Dorn -  Belarus Jewish Genealogy
 
September 13th 1:30 pm Pacific TIme - Stanley Diamond - JRI Poland, Polish Jewish Genealogy
 
October 25th 1:30 pm Pacific Time - Lara Diamond - Topic TBD
 
November 22nd 1:30 pm Pacific Time - Judy Baston - Lithuanian Jewish Genealogy
 
OCJGS members are free to attend with registration. All others please pay $5.00 per meeting to help cover expenses.  Registration is on our website www.ocjgs.org . Membership is also on our website and dues are $25.00 per year or $35.00 per year for a family.
 
Michelle Sandler
Westminster California
President OCJGS
Vice President of Programming OCJGS
Librarian OCJGS 


Need help translating from Yiddish #photographs #translation

tglickman@...
 

I need help translating a letter . It is posted on Viewmate
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82441 and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82442

Thank you.
Toby Glickman
tglickman@...


Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #poland #russia #translation

Greg Tuckman
 

Hello everyone,
I've posted 5 vital records in Russian for which I need a translation or extraction of data. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

Marriage Record of Abram Icek WAJSBLECH and Sura Erla KON:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82505&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca999ef351a2d4b34cc8708d810aaca2b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277673002403926&amp;sdata=X%2FZ5seAsZuzCTqKt%2BP6bq2%2F%2B5mvSgLSnEFNJbplSDog%3D&amp;reserved=0

Birth Record of Abram Icek WAJSBLECH:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82503&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C14861218aa374206310008d810aac210%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277672866339015&amp;sdata=a8U5FhbIQBdTwp3Fy2qFGbXLefZgQURGngGrR%2Fj5qVQ%3D&amp;reserved=0

Death Record of Wita Bina WAJSBLECH:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82502&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C4907f7f32c374f4ecce408d810aabe9b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277672807436571&amp;sdata=bQXp48linTH3OlYTV5ZIF87ooUQTH2tLMmeGnuEMamA%3D&amp;reserved=0

Death Record of Hersz WAJSBLECH:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82499&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C8512552bae5a408ae0ea08d810aab09e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277672572572469&amp;sdata=alZFxz8r2oOW%2FkUuJ2hT3p7O8SLZ1pq3pFqKwzbRuG8%3D&amp;reserved=0

Marriage Record of Hersz WAJSBLECH to Wita Bina ZEMLER:  https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM82498&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C34b35b86afdb4a269d4708d810aaab76%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637277672493740301&amp;sdata=MPoE4AvQnW1eB5Mfqjb7%2BYOPLU97rO9HgaPfd32%2FeLQ%3D&amp;reserved=0
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Greg Tuckman
Phoenix, Arizona  USA


ViewMate Translation Request -French #translation

Fred Half
 

I've posted a vital record in French for which I need a translation. Full translation of the upper image (No. 69) especially names and relationships. I know the date of death of the person (Isaac BODENHEIMER). It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82400

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
 
Fred

Fred Half
Palo Alto, CA USA
fredhalf@...


Re: From Which Viewpoint Are Cousins Named? #general #names

Christine Hills
 

I use this simple way to remember:
First cousins share Grandparents
Second cousins share Great Grandparents
Third cousins share Great Great Grand parents
Fourth cousins share 3x Great Grand parents etc.
For times removed count the generations from the above
e.g. My father's first cousin is my first cousin once removed
His second cousin is my second cousin once removed
My Grandfathers first cousin is my first cousin twice removed etc.

Christine Hills Dublin Ireland tinasusanamy@...


Re: Other names for Yitzchak? #names

Phyllis Berenson
 

A great resource for given names is/are the Given Names Data Bases on JewishGen:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/
My maternal grandfather was Itzchok, known in the US as Isaac, Izzy and sometimes as Isadore.
Phyllis Gold Berenson
San Francisco and Sonoma, California
Researching: BERENSON (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Shargorod, Ukraine), MILMAN (Briceni Moldova) , FINKELSTEIN (Zamosc, Poland), GOLDFARB (Pavlivka,Ukraine, Poland) MELAMED Lukiv, Ukraine, Poland), GOLDGEIN (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Moldova)


Re: Munz (Munz) Hatschek, Csapkovitz #hungary

esteban.reti@...
 

Well done, George. You are going a great job. I use to follow you. All your information can be used to my own Wertheimer family tree. Be well.


Re: Moses Hyam or Hyam Moses - name reversal in early 19th century #unitedkingdom

Diane Jacobs
 

Just to add some humor to this subject.
I have a great uncle Samuel Aaron
Singman who was born Aaron Samuel. His family told me he changed  it in the US, because he didn't want his initials to be ASS.

Diane Jacobs 



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From: jlevy2008@...
Date: 6/14/20 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Moses Hyam or Hyam Moses - name reversal in early 19th century #unitedkingdom

Thank you, Bob.

You have confirmed what I suppose I already suspected. People did reverse their secular given and family names. But it's great to hear some concrete examples.

I once knew a guy in the UK with the surname MORRIS. His grandfather or great-father appeared in secular records as Breslauer MORRIS. That was a pretty obvious case of name reversal. It did not take long to find the record of the adoption of the surname BRESLAUER by a man called Moritz.

Justin Levy
Dubai, UAE
--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Recent Record Updates #JewishGenUpdates

Susan&David
 

You cannot see a  list of all the entries in a database and scroll through it. 
You can search for a name or a place or other (depends on the content of the database) using:
 (1)    The Unified Search.  This will bring up a table showing  the many places within Jewishgen where your entry appears. Click  to see it.
 (2)     Some databases are searchable from a lower level than the Unified Search.  At the bottom of the description page for each database is a click button telling you the level from which the search can be made.  The two you mention can only be searched from the Unified Search level.  You can find them on the Holocaust Database page by doing a search via Ctrl F.    

If you have an interest that goes beyond curiosity you might contact the person who compiled and submitted the database to Jewishgen.

David Rosen
Boston, MA


On 6/14/2020 10:43 AM, avivahpinski@... via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
Thank you to Avraham Groll you and all the volunteers for all the recent record updates.  I have tried to access the individual categories that you have listed and keep winding up in the "Jewishgen Unified Search."   For example, if I wanted to review the list Reichsvereinigung der Juden in Deutschland (RvD) Card File
or  JCA: Candidates for Colonization  is there any way that I can access that particular list?  Is it on the list of databases?  Am I missing something?

Thank you
Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia
 

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Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


Greenberg ancestors #names #romania

sacredsisters1977@...
 

Hi All
I am seeking information on my Greenberg ancestry. A sister to my great grandfather was a Henia/Hana Greenberg who married a Hersh Ber. They were from Hertza dorohoi Romania. I am not sure how many children they had, for I only have names of three. One died in infancy. So I am interested to know the fate of Henia and her children Moise, and Dughe. I have just did a search on ancestry website and it looks like Dughe Ber was displaced at some point but then migrated to Montreal Canada with his wife Freda and son Avram. I would love to find out more and get in touch with any descendants. Mouse was born December 1904 and Dughe born November 1907. The son Avram was born in Bacau, Romania July 1940. Please contact me with any information.
Sarah Greenberg(USA)
sacredsisters1977@... 


Re: Family connection found - coincidences #general

Shelley Mitchell
 

I believe many coincidences we find today are often the result of siblings either just going their own way or families falling out. I’ve discovered people from the same town living near each other but that information was lost to the next generation. My grandfather’s brother chose his own variation of Michalovsky and moved South. There they lived near people with the same last last name. They joked about being related. If not for my genealogy work, they never would have known that they were very close relations. It’s a small world indeed.
--
Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.


Re: We Are Here! Join us on June 14@2PM ET for a very special program #JewishGenUpdates #events

Susan H. Sachs
 

It was magnificent!!  Will it also be available on the JewishGen web site for later viewing - or the web site of any of the other participating organizations?  If so I want to send the link to my kids to view it.
Thanks in advance -


Re: Surname TAJWIJ #names

Carole Shaw
 

Re the surname TAWIL as a possibility: there is a Rabbi Jonathan Tawil in London whom you can find online.  He is of Sephardic origin.

 

Carole Shaw, London UK
SCHNEIDER: Kamanets Podolsk, Ukraine & Libava/ Libau/Liepaja, Latvia
KLUGMAN, GOLDSCHMID (plus variations), BRAUER: Libava/Libau/Liepaja, Latvia & Johannesburg
ROSENTHAL, ZUSCHNEIDER/CUSZNAJDER: Lublin, Poland
GREENBERG, BRZOZA/BJOZHA, SOBERSKI: Lomza/Nowogrod, Poland
SAMSON, BLIK: Amsterdam, Zandvoort, Holland

WOLFSBERGEN, BOSMAN: Holland

ZANDGRUNDT (plus variations), SANDGROUND: Warsaw, London and beyond

JACOBOVITCH/JACKSON: Staszow, Poland & London

KOSKOVITCH/KENTON: Staszow, Poland & London

 


Re: We Are Here! Join us on June 14@2PM ET for a very special program #JewishGenUpdates #events

Susan H. Sachs
 

Thank you for announcing this very special performance!!

Will it be available for viewing on your website or another?  I would so want my children to be able to see it -

Thankyou in advance for your response,

Susan H. Sachs

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 8:04 AM Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:
**WE ARE HERE!**
JOIN US TOMORROW - JUNE 14@2PM ET - FOR THIS IMPORTANT EVENT
 
JewishGen.org is proud to partner with 60 other museums and cultural institutions around the world for:
 
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Sunday, June 14 @ 2:00 PM ET.
 
Featuring award-winning media personalities Whoopi Goldberg, Dr. Ruth Westheimer, Adrien Brody, Mayim Bialik, Jackie Hoffman, and Tiffany Haddish, world-renowned singers and musicians Renee Fleming, Lea Salonga, Steven Skybell, Joyce DiDonato, and Lang Lang, and other public figures from all walks of life, the free 90-minute program will commemorate the recent anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and project a message of hope amidst the crises we face.
 
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