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Re: Logistics of emigration from Pale of Settlement to America #lithuania #poland

Alyssa Freeman
 

     My grandmother, three of her sisters, and their parents walked from Odessa (now Ukraine) to Rotterdam (family name at the time FAVILYUKIS) around 1920 - a little passed the time you mentioned but probably very similar. They had false papers saying they were from Tiraspol (where my great-grandmother was from - maiden name DIKERMAN), which was in either Bessarabia or Romania at the time and not part of Russia (not quite the USSR yet and not part of Russia at the time, but there was a lot of infighting in Ukraine, at the time, and there were allied troops that had entered into Odessa to try and fight the Bolsheviks on behalf of the Tsar, and Poland was threatening from the west). The papers were very expensive. To the best of my knowledge, they avoided countries that were known to be hostile to Jews and probably took a southern route. It took them about a year. It's my understanding that they had help from HIAS and they sewed up all their money and their silver in their clothes so no one would see it and steal it. I don't know all the details, but I do know my great-grandfather was arrested for murder along the way and was released based solely on the testimony of my grandmother (who was 8 at the time). When they got to Rotterdam, my grandmother and her sisters got sick and ended up in the hospital. 
      I believe my great-grandfather knew English - or enough to get by. He had visited the US once before. They were processed through Ellis Island and my grandfather's brother has been in the US for a while so I think he's the one that came to greet them and helped them get set up in NY. The agent who spoke Russian to them to find out if they could read and write, etc, didn't speak to my grandmother who was small for her age. He thought she was about 6. She got very indignant and told her father, "Tell him I'm not a baby and I've been to school and I know how to read."
 
Alyssa Freeman
Henrico, VA


Re: Ottoman Jews during WW1 #general

Thierry.Samama@...
 

Cercle de Généalogie Juive (www.genealoj.org) has indexed thousands of pages of documents relating to Ottoman Jews in France during WW1 - those documents are held at the French Archives Diplomatiques. See https://www.genealoj.org/fr/taxonomy/term/202 - access requires membership.

Cheers,

Thierry Samama


Re: Male given name Shira #general #names

Phillip Minden
 

Shura is a common form of Alexander in Russian, and u merges into i in most of Eastern Yiddish. No connection to the modern name Shira = song, just a coincidence. 

Phillip Minden 


Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Jeanette Hurwitz
 

Husbands grandfather told a tale of not wanting to go into the army in Poland so he ate a whole bunch of bananas and it distended his stomach so much he looked deformed and they wouldn't take him. I wonder how a poor jew got a bunch of bananas in the early1900's.

Another tale of the same grandfather, Soloman Rofer, is that he stowed away on a ship to come to America. When he didn't have documents at Ellis Island they were going to send him back but he begged them not to. So they said he could stay in the US and would have to go to Canada or Mexico. He asked what the weather was like and chose Mexico.

What we know for sure was his family was murdered by the Nazis and he wouldn't talk about them. 


Seeking Researcher In Romania for Votkana, Bucharest, Barlad and Lasi #romania

sandycnadler@...
 

My Great Great Grandfather and Grandmother are Abraham Rosenzweig and Rebecca Solomon.  Rebecca's Naturalization Records reflect that they were born in Votkana on May 16, 1850 and December 15, 1860, respectively.  They were married in Votkana in 1876.  Their children are Clara (1876), Joseph (1880), Morris (1882), Benjamin (1886), Ethel (1886) and Charles (1888).  Records show that they lived in Bucharest, Barlad, lasi and possibly Neamt.  Thank you for any help.

Sandy Nadler
Honolulu, Hawaii
sandycnadler@...


IAJGS 2020 Conference Announcement

Chuck Weinstein
 

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS)
announces its 40th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy will
be a virtual conference for the first time, held Aug. 10-13, 2020.
"Given COVID-19, we are unable to hold our usual in-person conference,
but are excited with the possibilities in continuing to offer our
broad array of presentations and meetings on a virtual platform to our
diverse audiences worldwide, from first-timers to conference veterans,"
said Robinn Magid, conference chair.

Brainstorming and Connectivity will be the focus of four days of live,
streamed sessions on broad topics presented as plenary sessions, panels
and webinars. Meeting rooms will be provided for Special Interest
Groups (SIGs) and Birds-of-a-Feather (BOFs) to help gather our
worldwide audience. The Pre-Recorded Video Archive available to
conference registrants for up to 60 days after the virtual conference
will offer an even wider range of specialized presentations beyond the
scheduled, live sessions.

Early Bird Registration is now open June 21 through July 5 on the
Conference website at www.iajgs2020.org .

Conference Chair is Robinn Magid, a retired management consultant from
Berkeley, California, who has 30 years of experience in Jewish
genealogy research. She was also the chair of the 2018 conference in
Warsaw, Poland. Robinn is a frequent speaker at the IAJGS conferences
and various American Jewish Genealogical Societies.

The Conference is hosted by IAJGS, an umbrella organization of more
than 90 Jewish genealogical organizations worldwide. The IAJGS
coordinates and organizes activities such as its annual International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy and provides a unified voice as the
spokesperson on behalf of its members. Ken Bravo of South Euclid,
Ohio, is IAJGS president.

The IAJGS's vision is of a worldwide network of Jewish genealogical
research organizations and partners working together as one coherent,
effective and respected community, enabling people to succeed in
researching Jewish ancestry and heritage. Find the IAJGS at:
www.iajgs.org and like us on Facebook at
http://www.facebook.com/iajgsjewishgenealogy .

Chuck Weinstein
Communications Chair
40th Annual IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy (and first Virtual Conference)
Chuck1@...


Re: Harry Chernicoff home town #latvia #courland

Sherri Bobish
 


Hi Mark,

Might be Ventspils, Latvia.

Alternate names: Ventspils [Latv], Windau [Ger], Vindava [Rus], Vindoi [Yid], Windawa [Pol], Ventspilis [Lith], Vindavi [Est], Wentspils, Vindau

Region: Courland

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-3214120

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ


ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation #warsaw #yiddish #usa

Bill Lash
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

Document is from the Polish Archives. On back of the document it is written "Akt woolzenia nv 102 from 1848 /Leszcz, Abram/ from the bozmieziem region of Ostrow Maz. Some spelling may be incorrect do to transcription errors.

I would like the entire document translated with full name and date. Also confirm if it is a birth certificate and if they have the exact name of the town.
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
--
Bill Lash
bill.lash73@...
Southern California, USA


Re: Male given name Shira #general #names

Sally Bruckheimer
 

In Polish, nou nd often end in -a in the nominative case. Israel's does not mean son of Israel, it means Izrael. Mal e and female names both end in -a. Israelowicz means son of Israe l.

My tablet seems not to know much today.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton. NJ


Re: Logistics of emigration from Pale of Settlement to America #lithuania #poland

Mark Halpern
 

Read the "Background" of this part of the JewishGen USA database https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm donated to JewishGen by the Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia. This will answer some of your questions.

Mark Halpern
JGASGP 

 

On 2020-06-19 5:50 pm, elkus@... wrote:

My paternal great-grandparents all came from Suwalki Gubernia, now split between Poland and Lithuania.  I'm interested in reading about how during the 1885-1900 period (a) relatives in the US sent money and tickets to those wanting to come to USA  (b) how they traveled to the ports given that for many Jews, travel was restricted, (c) what documentation was required to cross borders and to board the ship, (d) how easy it was to falsify surnames or change surnames during the process, (e) how they navigated from entry (usually New York) to final destination without speaking English or knowing how things work in the US.  Would greatly appreciate seeing links to articles on these topics. Thanks.


Re: LOOKING FOR FRENCH FAMILY FROM POLAND #france #poland

Joel Ives
 

There are hundreds of people listed on the French genealogical data base for the name “GRAND.” You need to spend some time to see if you can find a match and, may have to get a subscription to view actual documents.

 

https://en.filae.com/

 

Joel Ives

Fair Lawn, New Jersey USA

 

Searching:  ZANKEL, Bohorodczany, Austria Hungary


Continuous Residency Requirement #usa #general

jel
 

In Dec. 1894, an immigramt disembarked in NY, from Russia via Liverpool. Sometime before 1897. he returned to Russia. I don't know how long he was there, but in 1897 he returned, this time "immigrating for the first time" to Boston. He immediately returned to to New York and filed his Declaration of Intention (First Papers) to seek citizenship. In this document, he gave the 1894 immigration date as his first entry, and provided the ship name. My question is why he would say, at the second entry, that this was his first entry to the U.S. My guess is that he may have thought that his length of time out of the U.S. would have negated his first entry date and that the residency requirement clock would be reset.

Does anyone know what was the continuous residency requirement in 1897?

Thanks,
J. E Lipmanson


Re: Gittle ABRAMOWITZ-New Haven, Ct. 19th century #belarus #usa #general

jbonline1111@...
 

Yoni Ben-Ari, I know you have been searching this family for a long time, because I took special note when I lived in the New Haven area.  I wonder if you were able to search marriage certificates in the area.  I lived in CT for many years.  The silver trade, if you mean manufacturing, was based in Meriden and Wallingford, CT, at that time.  These are adjoining towns about halfway between Hartford and New Haven.  I suggest considering that your ancestor lived in New Haven County rather than the city of New Haven. Unless there was great trolley or train service back then, it's likely that she lived near her work.  Both towns are in New Haven County.  There is currently train service from New Haven to Hartford that stops in both Wallingford and Meriden, so I suspect trains ran between them even over 100 years ago.  Furthermore, the train depot in Wallingford is within walking distance of where the silver company was.  I can't recall if that is true in Meriden, but there were no doubt streetcars at that time.  I hope this opens up some new avenues of investigation. I am replying to the group in case this will help anyone else.
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


IAJGS Conference Announcement #jgs-iajgs #education #events #announcements

Chuck Weinstein
 

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) announces its 40th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy will be a virtual conference for the first time, held Aug. 10-13, 2020.


“Given COVID-19, we are unable to hold our usual in-person conference, but are excited with the possibilities in continuing to offer our broad array of presentations and meetings on a virtual platform to our diverse audiences worldwide, from first-timers to conference veterans,” said Robinn Magid, conference chair.


Brainstorming and Connectivity will be the focus of four days of live, streamed sessions on broad topics presented as plenary sessions, panels and webinars.  Meeting rooms will be provided for Special Interest Groups (SIGs) and Birds-of-a-Feather (BOFs) to help gather our worldwide audience.  The Pre-Recorded Video Archive available to conference registrants for up to 60 days after the virtual conference will offer an even wider range of specialized presentations beyond the scheduled, live sessions.

Early Bird Registration is now open June 21 through July 5 on the Conference website at www.iajgs2020.org.


Conference Chair is Robinn Magid, a retired management consultant from Berkeley, California, who has 30 years of experience in Jewish genealogy research.  She was also the chair of the 2018 conference in Warsaw, Poland.  Robinn is a frequent speaker at the IAJGS conferences and various American Jewish Genealogical Societies.


The Conference is hosted by IAJGS, an umbrella organization of more than 90 Jewish genealogical organizations worldwide.  The IAJGS coordinates and organizes activities such as its annual International Conference on Jewish Genealogy and provides a unified voice as the spokesperson on behalf of its members. Ken Bravo of South Euclid, Ohio, is IAJGS president.


The IAJGS’s vision is of a worldwide network of Jewish genealogical research organizations and partners working together as one coherent, effective and respected community, enabling people to succeed in researching Jewish ancestry and heritage. Find the IAJGS at:
www.iajgs.org and like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/iajgsjewishgenealogy.

Chuck Weinstein
Communications Chair
40th Annual IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy (and 1st Virtual Conference)
chuck1@...


Logistics of emigration from Pale of Settlement to America #lithuania #poland

elkus@...
 

My paternal great-grandparents all came from Suwalki Gubernia, now split between Poland and Lithuania.  I'm interested in reading about how during the 1885-1900 period (a) relatives in the US sent money and tickets to those wanting to come to USA  (b) how they traveled to the ports given that for many Jews, travel was restricted, (c) what documentation was required to cross borders and to board the ship, (d) how easy it was to falsify surnames or change surnames during the process, (e) how they navigated from entry (usually New York) to final destination without speaking English or knowing how things work in the US.  Would greatly appreciate seeing links to articles on these topics. Thanks.


Re: Descendants of Dutch Jews. Any interest? #general

fredelfruhman
 

While I am not descended from Dutch Jews, one of my (German) aunts married a Dutchman and they lived in Amsterdam, from where they and their young child were deported to Westerbork and killed in Sobibor. 

As the family name is Cohen, it has not been particularly easy to find the family, although I ultimately had some success.  Today, based on the information in a new post, I learned of the multiple records available through the Dutch archives and have begun to plow through, although many are only in Dutch.

This is what I know about my uncle.  His name was Herman COHEN, born in Arnhem in 1908.  His father was Louis Simon COHEN, son of Simon Jacob COHEN and Sijtje SONDERVAN.  His mother was Louise DESSAU, daughter of Hermann DESSAU and Bertha KALISCHER.

If anyone has information about these families, please reply privately.

I have also learned that there is a "Jokos" file on my uncle and aunt's family, which I would like to pursue, but do not know how.  The file is said to reveal that a claim was lodged for compensation of valuables surrendered to the Lippmann-Rosenthal looting bank (there is a claim number).  I am hoping that learning who filed this claim may leas me to surviving relatives of my uncle's, but have no clue as to how to proceed with this investigation. 

A public reply to this part of my request might be helpful to others.

Thank you.
--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Rodrig Family from Bulgaria #general

juan.rodriguez861@...
 

 

Hello, Dear, I am trying to find more information about the Haim Rodrig-Galdetti Family from Bulgaria (aprox. 1830-1850), how many children did they have? One or two children immigrated first to Istanbul. In at the beginning of the 20th century a grandson named Haim  emigrated near to 1930 to Israel. Where could I find more information about this family?  Thank You  Juan

 
 


Harry Chernicoff home town #latvia #courland

smthted@...
 


This appears to be Windava (Russian), formerly Windau (German), now Ventspils, a port in Courland.

Ted Smith
Reston, VA


Re: Male given name Shira #general #names

Shelley Mitchell
 

One of the survivors of my family’s town was named Israela. I thought it was a woman. It meant son of Israel.
Maybe similar to your. Son of Shir?
--
Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.


Re: Harry Chernicoff home town #latvia #courland

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"from somewhere around Courland/Kurland as he's buried in one of the Kurland plots at Mount Zion Cemetery in Maspeth Queens"

Sometimes burial societies sold plots to 'anybody', so he may have been from there, and maybe not. One of my cousins is buried in the burial plot of a society for a place nowhere near where he came from. They must have been selling at a good plot when he died.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ