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Re: Stories my father told me #general

Sharon Taylor
 

My family came from Mariampol Galicia, just outside of Stanislawow. My favorite bedtime story, told in Yiddish, was about "Der Grosse Bear." I believe my mother learned the story from her mother or grandmother, and its similar to the tale of the Baba Yaga. One day, a mother leaves her children home while she goes to market. When she returns, the house is a shambles and all the children are gone. She grabs her sewing kit and heads into the forrest, following the enormous  footprints of a bear. She finds him sleeping beside a stream. She takes her scissors and cuts open the bear's belly and the children pop out. I always assumed that this story was common in that part of today's Ukraine. Is anyone familiar with this story or another similar tale?

Sharon Taylor
Philadelphia PA

Researching NEMETH, BLOCH (Mariampol and Stanislawow, Galicia)
WEISNER, FLEISIG (Kulikow and Lemberg, Galicia)
FISHER, RAPPAPORT (Raguva, Vilna, and Kovno, Lithuania)
Re: Descendants of Dutch Jews. Any interest? #general

Anne Nunez
 

Same last name... My father was a Nunez, his mother was a Cardozo. From Spain/Portugal then Livorno, Tunis, Paris then now, for some of us, the US.
I did see connections, marriages etc between Livorno and London/Amsterdam Sephardim in the 17th-18th century archives. 
My father did DNA analysis thru Family Tree DNA. Adam Brown of the Avotaynu DNA Project/Census project has helped my father thru his DNA analysis and analysis of other family members. Have you considered such analysis? It may give you some information on your family origin and relations with other sephardic families. My father did find a genetic match with a Christian minister in England, originally Enriquez/Valentin. 
Best regards,
Anne Marie Nunez
Alexandria, VA
Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

Todd Leavitt
 

My family name is "Levitsky", but Big Y DNA testing (haplogroup/terminal SNP R-YP6547) apparently does not qualify (per Meir HaLevi Gover) as consistent with the Levite genetic signature(s). So it goes....
Re: New York index to death records-finding pre 1865 death date #usa

A. E. Jordan
 




-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Pollak <JFPollak@...>
I recently found via Ancestry.com an entry for my third great grandfather, Gerson Heilbroner, in the 1862-1948 New York Index to Death Records. Heilbroner was mispelled Hhilbroner which was why I had not stumbled upon this before. This is definitely confirmed as my ggggrandfather as the entry mentioned his wife and daughter's name.
Questions:
1. Would the dates of the index indicate that he died 1862 and after-not before?
2. Would there be a next step in finding his actual death certificate/death date? I surmise that he died before May of 1865 because of naming patterns in the family.




Try checking over on FamilySearch. 

I think it is too early for a certificate so it is going to be a single line in the ledger books.    It would havee similar information to a death certificate but as I say be one line on a page and if I recall correctly they are by date not alphabetically.

Allan Jordan
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Re: The Boy Who Would Not Eat #general

m.solman@...
 

My grandmother Faiga Sobelewski grew up in the Czarist Russian city of Elisavetgrad (Ukraine, now with a different name) from 1893 to 1907. That year she immigrated with her widowed mother and siblings to Montreal.

There were various revolutionary upheavals as she was growing up at which times the flour mills were closed, and so there was no bread.  She told me when I young that she and her siblings frequently ate watermelon as a substitute for bread.  Even her old age, with the summer fruits available in Canada, she always preferred eating watermelon to bread.  I imagine there are others who may have heard similar stories from their grandparents.

Mel Solman
Toronto
New York index to death records-finding pre 1865 death date #usa

JFPollak@...
 

 
I recently found via Ancestry.com an entry for my third great grandfather, Gerson Heilbroner, in the 1862-1948 New York Index to Death Records. Heilbroner was mispelled Hhilbroner which was why I had not stumbled upon this before. This is definitely confirmed as my ggggrandfather as the entry mentioned his wife and daughter's name.
Questions:
1. Would the dates of the index indicate that he died 1862 and after-not before?
2. Would there be a next step in finding his actual death certificate/death date? I surmise that he died before May of 1865 because of naming patterns in the family.
 
Joan Pollak
Merion, Pennsylvania
 
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Re: Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"Correct spelling is Itzkovna" - In Russian, transliterated, maybe, but in Polish Ickowna was how it happened most of the time.

I have transcribed thousands of bmd for Polish towns, and Ickowna, and Ickowicz for men, were what occur.
Re: Searching for Shoikhet and Chausovsky families currently in Lithuania #lithuania

fjs@...
 

 You might wish to contact Simonas Gurevicius, the leader of the Vilnius Jewish Community.  He might be able to tell you if any of your family members are enlisted with the VJC.  I’m sure you will find him helpful and able to give advice.

Good luck,
Frank
Re: The Boy Who Would Not Eat #general

Jx. Gx.
 

Hello Reba Solomon.

Check out this link I found about Cannon Street in Lower Manhattan, NYC.

 https://forgotten-ny.com/2009/12/sheriff-bishop-crook/10-cannon-st/

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona
Re: Looking for information about my family from Yedenitz #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello Terry,  hello everybody who is interested in Bessarabia.

 

Here are several suggestions for Terry and also for everyone else who is researching their families.

 

  1. Our ancestors moved a lot in 19 century, that is why if you know that at some point they lived in Yedinetz, it does not mean that they did not come from close by or even not close town or village.  Do a broader search for that surname, and you may find your family somewhere else too.
  2. Do not use “Exact names”  (surname, first name)…  our ancestors changed their names, even it was forbidden at some point.
  3. We have some records for the Jewish cemetery in Yedinez, and in many other places in Bessarabia.  If you know where your great grandmother died, you can get some results from there.  Be aware that in 19 century or beginning of 20 century many gravestones do not have Surnames written…  use first name and father’s name instead.
  4. Do you know how the names (and surnames) were written in Russian?  That might be important… Instead of putting Mekler, Mackler, etc.  put an image with original Russian or Yiddish names (maybe from postcard, letter, etc.)
  5. I remember very well that in Miriam Weiner’s collection there were many records for people from Yedinez!  You should search that collection at Bessarabia website / Databases /Miriam Weiner’s collection.
  6. Also look into Business directory results of your search, and Voter’s list… you may find your family members there.
  7. I would suggest when you do a search analyze every line in the results window.

 

All the best,

 

Good luck to everybody with your research.

 

Yefim Kogan
Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Susan&David
 

Few Board of Special Inquiry hearing records survived.  There are 18 rolls of microfilm for Philadelphia, 1893- 1909.  You can look through this collection and get an idea of what hearings consisted of.
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/2892/

HIAS is still in operation: https://ajhs.org/ask-reference-question

I am not familiar with HIAS activities outside of the USA. I do know that HIAS could be notified when a client was to arrive and an agent would know to be there to greet him/her.   There is an interesting  record here:    (Go to image 1260 of 3127) 
FamilySearch Catalog: Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society card file I-96, 1882-1929 — FamilySearch.org
You will see that HIAS has an agent in Minsk, so it was likely that your family story is true.

David Rosen


On 6/21/2020 8:05 AM, beckyanderson53@... wrote:
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 09:57 PM, Susan&David wrote:
RE:  HIAS?HEBREW SHELTERING and IMMIGRANT AID SOCIETY of AMERICA, RECORD of SPECIAL INQUIRY CASE
My maternal grandfather had a three hearings prior to being admitted to the U.S.  I have tried to find records of the hearings, which are documented in the Ellis Island records, without success.  I am interested in how one finds the HIAS records.

Also, a previous reply stated that HIAS did not help people until they arrived in the U.S.   My paternal grandfather who left Odessa and was in in Constantinople for over 6 months in 1923, specifically states in the autobiography he handwrote in in 1960s that HIAS helped my family while they were in Constantinople.  Any thoughts on this? 

Thank you.
Rebecca Fogel Anderson
KIMLAT, MITNIK, FOGEL, TALNOPER, KRAHKMALNIKOV: Odessa, Russia
FINKELSTEIN,SILBERSTEIN: Serock, Poland
JAWETZ, VOGEL, GREENBAUM: Bukovina

Re: Seeking Researcher In Romania for Votkana, Bucharest, Barlad and Lasi #romania

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Re: Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

Efraim
 

Correct spelling is Itzkovna. This is a patronym and it means that her father's name was Itzik or Isaak in Russian spelling. Incidentally, my mom was Rozalia Isaakovna.
Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Alyssa Freeman
 

My grandmother and her family escaped Odessa around the same time yours did (1920) and walked across Europe. My mother told me that her mother told her HIAS helped them (BTW, my 2x great aunt who was from Tiraspol married either a SIlberstien or SIlverstein, depending on the records. This was probably around 1880. Her name was Chaya and his name was Melech).
 
Alyssa Freeman
Henrico, VA
FAVILYUKIS (the Odessa family); DIKERMAN, BOTNIK - Tiraspol/Bessarabia; KAPLINSKY, KAHAN - Belarus
KALLNER, FURMAN/FRIEMAN, LEVANISKY, GORDON, KOHN - Lithuania/Latvia; SUSSMAN - Galicia
1921 Czech Census for Subcarpathia Online #hungary #subcarpathia #hungary #subcarpathia

Lara Diamond
 

If you have family from what was Hungary pre-WWI, Czechoslovakia
between the wars, and is now Zakarpattya Oblast, Ukraine, the 1921
Czech census is online. I've found a ton of family--including my
great-great grandparents! Here are instructions about how to navigate
the site:

https://larasgenealogy.blogspot.com/2020/06/1921-czech-census-for-podkarpatska-rus.html

If someone wants to work with me to create a transcription project to
index the Jewish records out of here, please contact me off-list.

Lara Diamond
Baltimore, MD
Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Susan&David
 

While indexing the nine reels of LDS microfilms for the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Boston Arrival Card Database I came across a number of unusual and interesting examples.  This is the only one for a stowaway among the 24,000 cards.

https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/BostonHIAS.htm

David Rosen


On 6/21/2020 7:33 AM, Diane Jacobs wrote:
How was this record found?

Diane Jacobs 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Susan&David <rosens@...>
Date: 6/20/20 9:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #general

This is a record for a stowaway, arriving in Boston in 1915.  He was aided by the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society in a Special Inquiry case, as Yale Zussman decribes.

HEBREW SHELTERING and IMMIGRANT AID SOCIETY of AMERICA, RECORD of SPECIAL INQUIRY CASE 
Jacob Batkowsky  age 26,  dated May 10, 1915.
SS: U.S. Colier Porthemous, arrived 10/5/15.  Nativity: Lodz, Russ-Poland.  Social State: G.
Occupation:  Carpenter   $16		Stowed away
Dest. to:  Cousin D. Glasser, 477 Thompkins Ave. Brooklyn, NY
We held of the hearing, pending word from relatives, communicated with New York Soc'y and
received affidavits and money order for $75.00.  We then got him a hearing and secured his
admission outright. We took him to our office where we furnished him with two meals, then
secured a ticket to New York, via Providence, bought him food for the night and placed him
on the train, wired his departure to the N.Y. Soc'y to await him.  We then returned the money
order uncashed to the N.Y. Soc'y for which we received acknowledgement.

David Rosen

On 6/20/2020 8:01 PM, YaleZuss via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
Jeanette,
 
Stow-aways weren't barred from entry into the United States. Section 3 of the 
Immigration Act of 1917 establishes the conditions for their admission: they could be admitted as long as they didn't fall into any of the excludable categories.  Before 1917, their fate was determined by Boards of Inquiry established by the Immigration Act of 1903.
 
Can you attach a date to when Solomon Rofer arrived in the US?  If so, you may be able to make a direct judgment about the story.
 
Yale Zussman
 
 


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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: Meaning of the given name #names

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Yocheved daughter of Moshe.

for a son it would be " ….. ben Moshe”

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson,, AZ

On Jun 21, 2020, at 7:09 AM, Shelley Mitchell <Shelley.Mitchell@...> wrote:
What would be the meaning or origin of Yochwed bas Moshe?
Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

ssavionit@...
 

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:31 AM, <erikagottfried53@...> wrote:
Reformation
Your story might well be True. It is similar to a story from my father's side. When I started my research of my family roots, my clue was that all of the descendants knew that our family was not originally Jewish. The earliest family member I was able to trace was Pesach Matison (all possible spelling variations are valid) who lived in 1750 in Bausk Latvia. With a name like that he had to be Jewish. It is a well known fact that many Latvian Jews originated in Germany. I found it very puzzling as to why at any time before 1750 a good Goy would want to convert to Judaism. German Reformation in the 16th century could provide a good explanation. It is  also interesting that in every generation there is one son who was given the name Abraham which is the name given to every convert to Judaism. 
It is amazing how long a family story can pass down.
Meaning of the given name #names

Shelley Mitchell
 

What would be the meaning or origin of Yochwed bas Moshe?
TIA.
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Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.
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