moderated Jewish Gravestones Found in Austrian Castle Walls After 400 Years #austria-czech

Jan Meisels Allen











Renovations at Ebenfurth Castle, Austria have revealed 28 Jewish gravestones and gravestone fragments found in the foundations of the walls dating from the 17th Century. The wall was part of structural reinforcements to defend the city against the Ottoman Empire’s invasion of 1683.


The oldest of the tombstones is dated all the way back to the Hebrew date of 8 Tevet 5383 (December 11, 1622) and belongs to Elieser, son of Abraham Mose, German for Moses.

According to Jewish Heritage Europe, all of the stones will be displayed in a special display at Ebenfurth Castle and a commemorative plaque will be erected.


Jews were first documented in Ebenfurth in 1614. Between 1652 an 1671 Ebenfurth, a village in eastern Austria had the largest Jewish community in Lower Austria our of 48 communities.


Jews were evicted from Ebenfurth on August 26, 1671 and from then until 1867 there is very little information about Jews living there.

To read more see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Geni and Family Search #general

Dahn Cukier


Back in the 1980s I gave a cousin a GED file of about 600 people.
This was of my other's 2 families and my father's 4 grandparent's
families - in total 6 families.

Although she has listed my grandfather, his family is not one that interests her,
and in the last 30 years I've found more information, conflicting
information from what was available in the 1980s.

I know the information is on 2 sites, but I ma no longer interested
in correcting them. I will share listings with any relative, but
no longer GED files and my listings warn that the information
may be incorrect and should be verified if used.

A major problem other than everyone had the same given name,
many had the same family name and were born in the same year.
Saul J. of NJ and Saul J. of NY were born in the same year, one mother
was named Rose, the other had an older sister named Rose. NY Saul J
did not know his birthday so celebrated 2 dates.

I was watching Gunsmoke when Festus said something I did
not understand when I was younger, but now know what he meant.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 08:46:33 PM GMT+3, Marilyn Feingold <marigold8672@...> wrote:

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Re: Finding image on LDS microfilm from index #general

Eva Lawrence

While LDS microfilms are no longer available, many of the images have been put online under the same film number. You need to search for them by clicking on the Catalogue heading on the Familysearch website after logging in.. Some of the online films can then  be scrolled through immediately, but others are can now only be viewed on computers at LDS designated libraries due to privacy laws and copyright restrictions.set by other content providers  A get-around is to use a authorised computer to send a film to one's home email address  and view it at one's own time.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.'

Geni and Family Search #general

Marilyn Feingold

How reliable  is the information on Geni and Family Search.? Is one more reliable than the other? Thanks. Marilyn Feingold

Re: Iasi , Romania research #romania


Hi Teodora
I would love to find someone to help in the archlve in Braila and Galati. Might you know someone?
Also, I am looking for a newspaper from 1900 in Galati? My great grandfather died from an accident on 4 December 1900 in Galati and I am hoping an article might have been written. Any thoughts? Hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction.
Thank you in advance.

Re: The name GREIL #austria-czech #names


Greil is a shortened derivative form of the german surname Graül that came to be Greil in yidish. Its meaning is gray, greyish.
This surname either depicts the hair or the eyes of the person who first used this surname or it refers to s somber person.
All the best always
Alejandro T. Rubinstein

Re: Iasi , Romania research #romania

malcolm katz

Hello Teodora, 
I would be really happy if you could find my great grandparents.
On UK census they say they were married in 1883 in Iasi, Lejb Baron married Chana Herszowicz/Herscovici.
Lejb was born 1871 the son of Izrael Avraham and Chana was born 1873the daughter of Yaacov/Jacob.
Another relative Yosef Szmul Baron says he was born 5/2/1894 in Iasi son of Jacob and Hannah.
Malcolm Katz

Re: tombstones #general

Madeleine Isenberg

The question about two symbols on a Jewish tombstone/matzeva, has been asked and answered several times already.  I was at least among one of those.
The star indicates a date of birth; 
the cross for a date of death.  
They are ancient symbols and do not relate to a person's religion.  
When I first encountered this, I was just as confused.

Madeleine Isenberg
Beverly Hills, CA

Re: Finding image on LDS microfilm from index #general


If you put the number you have in the FamilySearch Catalog under film  or Fiche search it will come up.  Click on the title of the film.  This film is ditigitzed.  You may need to sign in to see it.

Re: Cohanim and adoption #general

malcolm katz

Hello Yoni, 

i believe you have been ill informed, I am a Katz and one of 2 sons adopted, I imagine it may apply to ultra religious perhaps, but the average would do what they wish, my father also married a divorcee which is a Cohen no no, different folks, different strokes.
He is buried as Kahan Tzedik as that is what he is, but it ends there on that line.

Re: Seeking researcher for Galati, and possibly Braila, Romania #romania


Love to know if someone local who is interested in this stuff

Re: Historic Synagogues of Europe #general #unitedkingdom


Thanks so much for posting this.


The Foundation for Jewish Heritage has posted a map Historic Synagogues of Europe

By clicking on any of the red  “balloons”  a photograph and information about that synagogue opens up. 

Shoshanah Glickman

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Newmn/Naiman/Nayman #general #usa

Bob Bloomberg

I am researching the Newman/Maiman/Nayman family who lived in Bangor Maine and Waterbury, Connecticut.

His first name was Harry/Chaim.  He was married to Ida/Adel/Adelle Katz.

Does anyone have any information on them?

Re: Photographs of Lodz Cemetery #poland

Richard Gilbert

Hi Miriam,

Thank you or your response and photos.

I was in the New Lodz Cemetery in November and got to see for myself the state of the cemetery and the "ghetto field'.  Unfortunately I did not have time to do genealogical research as my wife and I were there as part of a Shoah related journey with our synagogue. Our tour followed the journey of the amazing Mala Tribich MBE who accompanied us on our journey,

The graves I found particularly harrowing were of the Bnei Akiva madrichim who were killed after the end of the war.  And the 6 unfilled pits by the cemetery wall near the entrance to the cemetery. See the photos below.  I have also attached a photo of what the prayer hall and a general view of part of the cemetery and the grave of Isaac Hertz who died in 1905, whose headstone I found particularly fascinating.  He is buried near the Poznanski mausoleum where Salomon Poznanski is buried in Lewa 9/1

I have been asked privately how I found reference to the people I was looking for on the Lodz Cemetery website.

The first step I took was to look up the people I am interested in using the JRI Poland database at  This told me that the people I am researching are buried in the New Lodz Cemetery.  It gave me location of their graves, with a reference to a photo, which I now know is a photograph of the page of the burial ledger used to create the database.  

You can reach the Jewish Lodz Cemetery website at  Along the top of the page you will see various tabs.  One is called Plan of Cemetery.  If you click on that it will show you where in the cemetery a particular section is.  

If you click on the section in the plan, identified mainly with a letter of the alphabet but sometimes numerically as well, it will call up the names of the people buried in the cemetery.  This list is populated to the right of the plan of the cemetery under the heading Kwatera, meaning quarter or I assume in English we're more likely to say section, when referring to a cemetery.  

It then tells you whether the section you have clicked on is on the left (Lewa) or right (Prawa) of the main path through the cemetery.  If I have understood the plan correctly, the pink sections are for women, the purple sections are for men, the orange sections are for men and women and the green sections are for children. 

I hope this helps.  I do not claim to have any expertise on this. I am just happy to share what I have discovered if it will help others with similar research interests.

All the best.

Richard Gilbert
Hertfordshire, England

Re: Finding image on LDS microfilm from index #general

David Oseas


I've researched through thousands of FamilySearch image collections since they started their digitization project and I've yet to encounter a single one where they've dropped the original film number.

As you can see from the attached screencap, the Collectie Vaz Diaz rolls are still listed in the catalog as 899932 and 899933.  The digitized images are restricted access, so can only be viewed at a Family History Center.

David Oseas

Gittel Malter Mann. Ulaszkowce - Vienna - The Bronx #general #galicia #austria-czech #usa

Daniel Mann

Can anyone please advise me how me how I can learn if two people are really the same?

The first is Mallter, Gittel Mann who in 1944 lived in the Bronx.  Her name was first given to me by a cousin in a list of relatives with little or no explanation how we are related. 

However, her petition for naturalization card has the name Mann.  Apparently this is her maiden name &  is also likely how I connect with her.  Her Ellis Island papers (1935-38) also mention the name Mann.  The name Gittel Mann also shows up in the Vienna Marriage record of Rochel Lea Malter likely her daughter. 
This is likely the connection as my surname also is Mann.

Her travel documents state that she was born in Ulaszkowce (in Galicia) about 1870-71, and lived in Vienna before immigrating to the US. 
My grandfather Phillp Mann was similar. He was born in Ulaszkowce in 1875 and lived in Vienna before coming to the US in the 1930s.
She also had a son named Maurice Malter. Her husband likely was Beiritz (Beirisch) Malter.  

Although my connection seems to be through the Mann family I don't have much information on that.

However there was a Gussy Malter who at the time of the 1940 census was living with her (older) sister, Yetta Stettner in Manhatten.  Yetta Stettner's father was Feibel Mann from Austria. Yetta passed away Jan 1944.
My question is how can I discover whether Gittel Malter Mann became Gussy Malter Mann in America? ( I have no burial record which might have her father's name.)
This would help clarify our Mann connection.

Thank you for your advice.
Daniel Mann
MANN  Ulaszkowce, Chortkov, Kopyczyńce
CHALUTA Mstibovo Belarus
SHERESHEVSKY Bialystok, Grodno Gubernia 

Re: tombstones #general

Steven Bloom

Yes,  I had a similar question. That is, what kind of cemetery was this?
Perhaps a non-Jewish cemetery would have allowed Jewish markings, but only if a cross also appeared or maybe this was military?  I do remember once seeing a completely Jewish stone in a Catholic cemetery. Its a bit of a long story---but just to show that odd things pop up from time to time.

More likely, the family just wanted to accommodate the decedent's wishes, but also keep something of the family heritage.

Also, did the family legend predate anyone having seen this stone? And finally, from what time period is the stone?

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia

Re: Application of Familiant Laws in early 19th century Moravia - #austria-czech

Jeremy Schuman

Hi Avivah,

The link for the birth, marriage and death records is as follows:
If you expand the first plus sign you will see all the available records.

The link for the census returns is as follows:
If you start typing the name of the town you are interested in in the box, it will prompt you with all the available towns. make sure the one you select has the word "zidovska" in it so you get the Jewish records.

Just to warn you, both websites are in Czech, but hopefully you can navigate them.

By the way, if you're interested in Moravian records, I suggest you look in the various guides in Geni, such as the one here:



Re: Iasi , Romania research #romania


Hi Teodora. I have been researching the Plutzers and Rosenblatts, my paternal grandparents. I know that the Plutzers were from Lusan, current day Luzhany Ukraine and Lujeni Romania inter-war. I believe the Rosenblatts were from the same area.  My maternal grandmother, Minnie maiden name Plutzer's parents were Esther and Marcus. Esther came over in around 1907 and there is real confusion about when Marcus came over. I also have not been able to determine with certainty when Minnie came over. A Mina Plutzer came over in 1900 from Lusan, but there are many contradictions in the records.

I have no idea where records are located, but I would be grateful for any effort you can make.

Thanks. Have a safe and pleasant journey.

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