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Re: Tombstone Translation #photographs #translation

fredelfruhman
 

There are a number of discrepancies among the replies that were given.  I hope to come back with a full reading later.

Meanwhile, I would like to point out:

1.  Her middle name might have been pronounced Freeda, rather than Fraydah.

2.  There is an abbreviation in front of her father's name that indicates that he was a rabbi, as at least one person pointed out.

3.  As to the abbreviation immediately preceding the date of death:  Gravestones have no punctuation and are full of run-on sentences.  This abbreviation -- despite its location -- means "with a good name/reputation".  It does not mean "at a good time",  even if the date of death might have been a Sabbath. 
--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Re: Yiddish or Hebrew name for IDA #belarus #names

susan.wolman
 

Sometimes Chaya becomes Ida.   
Also Ida is sometimes from Eidel - sweet/gentle - in Yiddish
 
Susan WOLMAN 
researching
WOLMAN - Minsk, Minsk, Belarus, Brooklyn, Albany, NY
PALEY - Shatsk, Minsk, Belarus, New York, Albany, NY Sharon, Fairfield, CT
COHEN/KAGAN - Gudel, Lithuania, Corona, NY
POLIANSKY - Lithuania, Camden, NJ, Corona, NY
 


Re: Photographs of Lodz Cemetery #poland

Robert Murowchick
 

Although they are not organized at all, you can find some 560 images of tombstones in the Lodz New Jewish cemetery in this Wikimedia collection
Wikimedia Commons collection of Lodz cemetery photos
The quality of the photos is terrific, but unfortunately none of the names have been transcribed, so there is no way to search the collection. As a crowd-sourced Wiki site, though, users can log in (by setting up a free Wiki account) and can then edit or add to each image's caption, so those of you who are talented transcribers could make a huge contribution here. 

A map and burial lists of the Lodz Ghetto Cemetery can be found at the following link, but there are no photos
http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/ce/ghetto/lodz-ghetto-cemetery.htm
--

Robert Murowchick    <robertmurowchick AT gmail.com>
Needham, Massachusetts USA

Researching these family links:
MUROWCHICK/MURAWCHICK/MURAWCZYK etc (David-Gorodok, Belarus, New Jersey, Chicago)
KUNECK/KONIK/KYONIK (Kozhan-Gorodok, Belarus)
EPSTEIN/EPSTINE (Gavish/Gavieze, Liepaja, Latvia)
SEGAL/SIEGEL (Tilsit, Koenigsburg, Germany; Baltimore; Chicago)


Re: Finding image on LDS microfilm from index #general

Moishe Miller
 

Hello,
 
Sally Bruckheimer indicates that the "Vaz Dias Collectie" used to be LDS Microfilm #'s 899932 and 899933. Searching for those numbers on FamilySearch, does seem to still show them as she describes:
 
  • Collectie Vaz Diaz; ondertrouw akten A-D 1600-1811; Film #899932, DGS 7989290
  • Collectie Vaz Diaz; notariele akten, enz. E-M; Film #899933, DGS 7989291
 
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY


Re: Yiddish or Hebrew name for IDA #belarus #names

Joan A. Baronberg
 

My great grandmother's (Yiddish) name was Eiga, sometimes spelled in English as Aega. One time someone wrote her name as Ida, but that was definitely not her name.

Joan Baronberg
MESTER, WEISSER, FRIEDMAN


Re: Seeking researcher for Galati, and possibly Braila, Romania #romania

lisab5308@...
 

Hi Iris,

Please let me know if your researcher comes through.  Thanks.

LISA BRACCO


Re: Seeking researcher for Galati, and possibly Braila, Romania #romania

lisab5308@...
 

Hi Jeff, 
Could you provide contact information for Dr. Gyemant?  You can send directly to me at lisa5bracco4@....  Thanks.

LISA


Re: Tombstone Translation #photographs #translation

David Barrett
 

May I respectfully pass comment on the Hebrew abbreviations of   בש''ט .
In this particular case as they appear by/with the date they must refer to the date and NOT to her personality ,all listed above the date.
So in this  case the abbreviations mean " at a good time" = בשעה טובה -- meaning ON SHABBAT - check the 1912 calendar!


Re: Looking for information about my family from Yedenitz #bessarabia

R Jaffer
 

When you click on the reply button, the text box appears. After typing your reply, you will see a green button to post reply to all, a red button to discard your messages and a white button on the right to make your message private, i.e. send only to the person who wrote the message. I will choose to reply to group so others can see this message.
Roberta Jaffer
Massachusetts, USA


Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

jgw111@...
 

The R1a Levites are Ashkenazim.    A small majority of Sephardic   Levites are haplogroup J   ----nothing more specific


Re: Naming pattern - TURKUS #general

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

ELIAS is a very common Sephardic name and is found amongst Greek Jews in particular.  Just try googling the name
or check any of the genealogy web sites.  Turkus also appears to be a Sephardic name or possibly an Eastern European
surname for someone from Turkey. Many of the Jews who left Spain went to Greece and Turkey. 
Some of them then moved into Eastern Europe. Your ancestors may well have been Sephardic Jews. 
There is a group specifically for Sephardic Jews in Europe - it might be worth getting in touch with them. .

In addition, has anyone in the family tested DNA?  In your situation, DNA testing might be very helpful. If you plan to test,
make sure that you pick the DNA organization that will be most helpful in this.

Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia, USA
 

--
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


Iasi, Romania Research #romania

Alan Tapper
 

My wife’s grandparents were both from Iasi.  They were married in 1905.  Moshe Hochberg served in the military before coming to the US and went back to pick up his bride.  They were married on Ellis Island.  His bride was Anna Katz

Thank you

Alan Tapper
sabaalan@...


Re: Seeking researcher for Galati, and possibly Braila, Romania #romania

debannex@...
 

Hi Iris
Would you share your researcher in Galati? My ggrandfather died in Galati. I know it was an accident, but that is all I know. I have a picture of his gravestone, but would love a copy of his death certificate and possibly a news article from a local paper. Maybe if I join in, I can help defray your cost.
Thank you in advance
Deborah Annex
debannex@...


Re: Yiddish or Hebrew name for IDA #belarus #names

kosher@...
 

Ida seems too Anglicized to be a name used in Eastern Europe.

In addition to Chaya, with its various spellings, in Yiddish the name may have been Itka, whose name in English was Ida.

Keith Osher

 

Newton, MA


Re: Tombstone Translation #photographs #translation

btkerman@...
 

Here is buried (abbreviation)
Our dear mother
A modest and upstanding woman
Honored and distinguished
Beloved to all who knew her
Mrs Chana Freida daughter of our leader the Rabbi (abbreviation) Yaakov
Died with a good name (abbreviation)13th of Kislev 5673
May her soul be bound in the bonds of everlasting life (abbreviation)

The acronym before her father's name does signify that he was a Rabbi.


Re: Tombstone Translation #photographs #translation

kosher@...
 

Mary Ellen,

The translation of the gravestone is as follows:
First line: po nikbarah (abbr.) – here lies
Second line: imanu ha’yikarah ­– our dear mother
Third line:  eishet tzenuah v’yesharah – a modest and upright woman
Fourth line:  nichbadah v’choshavah – respected and important
Fifth line:  l’chol yoda’ah v’ahuvah – by all who knew and loved her
Sixth line:  marat Chanah Freida – Mrs. Chanah Freida
Seventh line:  bat mareinu ha’rav (abbr.) Yaakov ­– the daughter of our teacher Rabbi Yaakov
Eighth line:  niftara – who died
Ninth line:  b’shem tov (abbr.) 13th Kislev 5673 ­– with a good name on the 13th of Kislev 5673
Tenth line:  nishmata tsrurah b’tsror ha’chaim (abbr.) – may her soul be bound up in the bond of eternal life

The 13th of Kislev 5673 corresponds to 23 November 1912.
Yours truly,
Keith 


Re: Tombstone Translation #photographs #translation

Malka
 

 

Hello Mary Ellen,

 

Here lies or here is buried (Abbreviation on top)

Our dear mother

Honest and modest

Respected by all who knew her

Mrs. Hannah Frieda

Daughter of Ya’akov

Passed 13 Kislev 1913

May her soul be gathered in eternal life (abbreviation on bottom)

Shalom, Malka Chosnek

 


Re: Naming pattern - TURKUS #general

Rodney Eisfelder
 

Elaine,
This naming pattern (given name followed by patronym) was absolutely standard among Ashkenazi Jews before surnames were introduced.
In Eastern Europe the patronym was generally "decorated" by -ovitch or similar. In Hebrew, it was prefixed by ben or bat, but in German speaking countries the patronym was generally undecorated. Many families continued to use patronyms as middle names long after the introduction of surnames in the early 19th century. One famous example is the Orthodox Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch. While wikipedia says his father was Mendel Hirsch*, geni.com says his father was Raphael Aryeh Hirsch. So in the rabbi's name, Raphael was a patronym.

Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia
*At least one of sources cited by wikipedia is a family tree that supports the geni.com version.


Re: Geni and Family Search #general

martyn@...
 

The sources used by My Heritage and Geni seem generally to consist only of what can be read on their subscribers' family trees. No genuine sources but you can build a tree of 50,000 people in a week or two and claim ancestry from King Alfred, Tutankhamen or the Queen of Sheba. All a lot of  nonsense.


Re: Seeking researcher for Galati, and possibly Braila, Romania #romania

jeff.kaplan@...
 

I have previously had research done for my Iancovici and Sucher families from Galati in Romania - I contacted for the research Dr. Ladislau Gyemant - he advertises in Avotaynu all of the time. Thanks.