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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Judy Madnick
 

We were told that my husband's surname "Madnick" was not the original family name, that when the Russians recruited boys to their army by force, if you were an only son, you could avoid the military. We've been told that the original name was "Gegozinski," so a direct ancestor of my husband and his brothers (unknown to us) each chose a different family name. Ours chose Madnick." Now I'm wondering whether they were "adopted," as described above or whether the "only son" story is accurate.


ViewMate translation request - Polish (may be Russian) #translation #poland #russia

Alice Klein
 

I'd like to request a translation of the Polish/Russian text of a birth record from Warsaw in ~1913. It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82758

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much,

Alice Klein


Was a gradfather an acceptable witness for the birth of a grandson in Galitzia in 1875? #austria-czech

Alberto Guido Chester
 

Dear Genners
 
I have found a close relative living in the same house, with the same surname who appears as witness in the birth act of a boy (by the way my grandfather)
 
I think he was his grandfather, however I cannot yet prove the relation.
 
Was such a  close relative accepted by the Austrian authorities as a witness of the birth?
 
Or maybe this was not a limitation?
 
Thanks for your comments.
 
PS: If you consider your comments to be of relevance to me only, please email me but not the list.
 
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina
 
 


"adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Ettie Zilber
 

DOES THIS STORY SOUND FAMILIAR? a branch of my family had 5 sons around the mid-late 1800s. In order to avoid the military, 4 of the sons were "adopted" by families which had no sons. Thus, this branch had 5 different family names. They lived in Kalvarija and environs. Does anyone have information about this practice? How do the genealogy experts advise doing research for this brick wall?


Robinn Magid appointed Assistant Director of JRI-Poland #announcements

jeremy frankel
 

On behalf of the Board of the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society, I would like to heartily endorse the election of our long-time society member, Robinn Magid, to the position of Assistant Director of JRI-Poland as well a member of the JRI-Poland executive committee.

It has been my privilege and pleasure and that of the board to have known Robinn for many years, both professionally and personally. Her many years of experience and various skills will be put to good use with JRI-Poland’s board and executive committee.

Congratulations!


Jeremy Frankel

President
San Francisco Bay Area
Jewish Genealogical Society


Launch of Online Resource of Jewish Cemeteries in Turkey With Over 61,000 Gravestones #sephardic #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

 

A digitized database of Turkish cemeteries has been launched online and made available to the public by the Goldstein Goren Diaspora Research Center at Tel Aviv University.  It is called A World Beyond: Jewish Cemeteries in Turkey 1583-1990.  The database is the culmination of decades of research by Prof. Minna Rozen and comprises digital images and detailed textual content of more than 61,000 Jewish gravestones from a variety of communities in Turkey from 1583 until 1990. While the material was digitized I the 1990s now is the first time its publicly accessible.

 

The database provides access to detailed information on Jewish cemeteries in a score of towns and cities around Turkey, from big city cemeteries with thousands of graves, to out of the way graveyards with only a few dozen: (each is a  hypertext link)

Adana,  Antakya,  Bodrum,  Bursa,  Çanakkale,  Çorlu,  Edirne,  Gaziantep,  Gelibolu,  İskenderun,  Istanbul,  Izmir,  Kirklareli,  Konya,  Manisa,  Mersin,  Milas,  Tekirdağ,  Tire,  Turgutlu

 

Using the complex search functions, you can seek out individual gravestones or search the cemeteries by a range of criteria, including date, type of tomb (e.g. slab, upright, coffin-like), name and/or sex of the deceased, type of ornamentation of the gravestone, and more.


To read more about the project, Turkish Jewry , Cemeteries, how to navigate the project an d search the database go to: https://jewishturkstones.tau.ac.il/#/

 

Note: the database is considered a “beta” version and the project team recognizes that there are still some kinks to be worked out. They ask that users point out glitches and suggest improvements by contacting them at diaspora@...

 

To read more see:  https://jewish-heritage-europe.eu/2020/06/30/turkey-major-resource/

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Smorgon vital records #lithuania

L Levy
 

My family, the Meirovitz/Meerovitz/Meirivitch family was from Smorgon, and I have records from Vilna and Kovno confirming the connection.  However, I've contributed/joined the Oshmiany group and searched through all the records for Smorgon and nearby shtetl records to no avail.
I'm would guess that there are other Smorgon decendants here, are there records missing?  For example, is there a later revision list? If so, is there another method of tracing family in the area?  I believe my family relocated after the 1915 pogrom, some went east to Minsk, several went to Vilna, and a few to Kovno.  However, it would seem that the family would be listed on the 1850 revision list, but unfortunately they are not.


Institutionalized relative - death date and burial location #general

L Levy
 

Hi! I have a great aunt who was institutionalized by her family, I don't know the reason, but I do have reason to believe she died at Pilgrim State Hospital in New York.  I've contacted Pilgrim, and although this woman has certainly been deceased for 50 years they will not release any information, including where residents were buried.  I've also searched NY death certificates.  I believe she passed in the 1960's.
There's no death certificate that I've been able to find either. 
Her name was Ida Levy, she was born in Harrisburg, PA in 1909, daughter of Rosa and Louis Levi (changed to Lewis Levy later) but lived in the Bronx, NY until she was institutionalized at Pilgrim, which is located in Brentwood, NY.  I have contacted the Jewish cemetery of Central Islip, but have not heard back yet.
Has anyone had experience with researching a family member in similar circumstances and do you have any advice? 


Request for SIG/RD/BOF/RG groups 2020 IAJGS Virtual Conference Participation #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Nolan Altman
 

Dear SIG, RD, BOF, RG leader,

As you are probably aware by now, this year’s IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy will be a “Virtual Conference”.  The good news is that the conference Chairs have worked out a mechanism for SIG/RD/BOF/RG groups to meet in virtual meeting rooms during the conference period.  Many of you already submitted applications but some of you notified us that you could not hold a session because you would not be able to travel to San Diego.  Since physical attendance is no longer an issue, we are doing a re-set and providing all groups the opportunity to apply for a meeting session.  Please read the rest of this letter carefully and submit the accompanying application form by July 15th.

The Virtual Conference will take place between Monday, August 10th and Thursday, August 13th between 10:00 AM and 7:30 PM, Eastern Daylight Time. In addition to SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, there will be live and pre-recorded sessions. Additional good news for your group is that we would like to offer the SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings at no charge to attendees, so you could invite existing members and potential members who may not be interested in attending the full conference, but would like to meet with your group.

Attendees for any part of the conference, including the SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, must register for the conference.  Registration for the full conference, which will include a variety of live and recorded sessions is $325. (By the way, the $250 early bird rate expires on Sunday, July 5th in case you have not registered and want to.)

By submitting your new request, you are agreeing to the following conditions:

  1. Your meeting cuts off abruptly at one hour, so watching the clock is necessary.
  2. Your meeting will be designed as a simple networking session, not a webinar. However, PowerPoint, screensharing and chat functions are available like in a webinar. You may discuss projects that your group has accomplished or is pursuing, but you agree not to invite a special speaker or present a formal webinar that more properly belongs within the conference to paying attendees.
  3. You will submit the names and contact information for two Moderators who will be responsible for running the technical part of your session with your reply to this letter. If your group is larger than a handful of people, it is in your interest that these people should be different than the person or people who are leading the meeting. We will have a professional technician available to you in the background, but you will need to supply one or two moderators. (It is intended that the moderators will deal with screensharing, taking questions, cueing speakers, etc.  That is why it might be best for the moderator to be someone other than a speaker or leader.)
  4. You will respond to this request ASAP and before July 15th, so the conference organizers have time to schedule the sessions and reach out to your appointed moderators for any necessary training.

Applications MUST be returned by July 15th, 2020 at the to SIGandBOF@...g  (Earlier replies are very much appreciated.)  If we do not get a response by July 15th, your group will not be scheduled.

Feel free to contact me at the same email address with any questions. 

 

Nolan Altman

 


Re: Adoptions in the US around the 1930s #general #dna

Nicole Heymans
 

When searching for adoptees' potential biological relatives, DNAGedCom is an absolute must. https://www.dnagedcom.com/
Unlike GedMatch which requires downloading raw data by contributors, this site collects matches (rather than raw data) directly from FTDNA, 23andMe etc. and numbercrunches it. This means it includes data from samples from all those disappointed by their DNA findings, or deceased, who are unresponsive.

Keep safe;

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium


Re: Adoptions in the US around the 1930s #general #dna

Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
 

 I agree. There was a stigma associated with adoption. We’ve come a long way Thank G-d
--
Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY


Re: Adoptions in the US around the 1930s #general #dna

Eva Lawrence
 

Even much later, in the 1950s, there were families who were anxious not to tell an adopted child that it wasn't theirs. A newspaper announcement seems a bit extreme, but they may have wanted to make sure the neighbours didn't spoil the illusion. I've known families move because an adoption was locally known. 
--
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: Looking for any information on family name Zaubler/Zobler/Ziegler/Seidler moved to NY before WWII originally from Poland / Vienna #galicia #austria-czech #poland

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

It would be helpful if you gave us your G GM’s date of birth, your GM Anna’s DOB and told us who the father of Rosa and Lena were.   

On Jun 30, 2020, at 12:33 PM, anngeva@... wrote:

My great grandmother, Clara (don't know her original husband's name but remarried someone named Seidler) moved with my grandmother, Anna Ziegler/Pimselstein (who perished in Auschwitz) from Pechenizhyn, Poland to Vienna sometime before 1922. In Vienna, Clara remarried to someone named Seidler and then moved to NY before the war. This is about all the information that I can find about this part of my family. I think Clara also had two other daughters, Rosa and Lena who were also living in NY. There were also two cousins of my mother named Leo Zobler and Leonard Spinner in New York whom were also connected somehow. I would greatly appreciate if any of these names "rings a bell" to hear anything more about this part of my family.


Looking for any information on family name Zaubler/Zobler/Ziegler/Seidler moved to NY before WWII originally from Poland / Vienna #galicia #austria-czech #poland

anngeva@...
 

My great grandmother, Clara (don't know her original husband's name but remarried someone named Seidler) moved with my grandmother, Anna Ziegler/Pimselstein (who perished in Auschwitz) from Pechenizhyn, Poland to Vienna sometime before 1922. In Vienna, Clara remarried to someone named Seidler and then moved to NY before the war. This is about all the information that I can find about this part of my family. I think Clara also had two other daughters, Rosa and Lena who were also living in NY. There were also two cousins of my mother named Leo Zobler and Leonard Spinner in New York whom were also connected somehow. I would greatly appreciate if any of these names "rings a bell" to hear anything more about this part of my family. Thanks!


Re: Records of passport applications from Poland and trip to France #france #poland

jbonline1111@...
 

I don't know how to search these records, but I can tell you that my grandfather and his family had passports when they traveled from the area in the late 1890s to the US.  
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


From Tarnow area: RYK / REICH / RICH / RICK #dna #galicia

Stanley Diamond
 

Nancy Schlegel asked about connections to families from Tarnow.

Perhaps the additional years of records of Tarnow extracted by
JRI-Poland in the last month may have some clues.

To learn the current status of records indexing/extraction for the 
records of a town in Poland, write to [townname]@jri-poland.org

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.


Re: Searching for Sunny BERNARD / Sonny HOFSTEDE #usa

Renee Steinig
 

Sonny immigrated with her parents, Bernard and Helene (nee Harpuder), in December 1946. Their manifest mentions a Kanner relative in Baltimore. 
 
The family settled in Joliet, Illinois. According to documents created there and in Amsterdam, Sonny's birth date was 23 April 1938. I found on BeenVerified.com a Sunny H. Bernard with that birth date and a Joliet address. Unfortunately, BeenVerified's record says that she died in October 2013. However I don't see her death in other sources.
 
The family is on a tree on Ancestry -- the Harpuder Family Tree from Rzeszow. According to the tree, Helene's parents were Herman Harpuder (son of Leib Harpuder and Reisel Kanarek) and Sara Beile Rieszfeld (daughter of Selig Rieszfeld and Taube Feiga Leiter).

Renee
 
Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...

Carol Jean Weightman <c.j.weightman@...> wrote:
 

I am looking for family member Sunny BERNARD who came to the United States from Amsterdam in the 1940’s. I believe we are part of the same Reisfeld / Lewin / Kanner family of Rzeszow and later Berlin. Sunny had been known earlier as Sonny HOFSTEDE.


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Jonathan Wreschner
 

And his father's first name was Shaun, because he replied " Schoin fargessen".

Jonathan Wreschner
Efrat, Israel

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020, 19:21 Jules Levin, <ameliede@...> wrote:
This has all the earmarks of a name-change joke:  Like the Jew whose
last name was Fergason because when his father was asked a question he
said "Ich hob fargessen..."  Never happened...

Jules Levin

On 6/30/2020 5:15 AM, Alan Gordon wrote:


My second cousin, during an interview I conducted, informed me that
his grandfather, Frank Kanserstein, had his name changed at Ellis
Island.  Frank's was the husband of my great aunt, and I never met
him.  According to my cousin, Frank's real name was "Thomaspol," but
when they asked him what his name was, he replied, "Kanserstein," or
"I can't understand."  Given your combined experiences, does this make
any sense?


Re: Offer from Boris M in Ukraine to translate Zhitomir documents #ukraine #translation

Mark Jacobson
 

Do not reply. He has been abusing JewishGen to take names and emails to sell poor quality images of records that are available for free on Alex Krakovsky's page and are being indexed by JewishGen. Complain to JewishGen please. He should be removed for violating their policies.

Mark Jacobson



On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 10:43:22 AM EDT, rhonda.post via groups.jewishgen.org <rhonda.post=ymail.com@...> wrote:


Hello

I was contacted by a man named Boris Makalsky from the Ukraine. He found my name in the JewishGen list of people looking for Posternak family in Zhitomir. He claims to have details of my husband's family going back to 1770. He wants to charge me for this information. I am skeptical of accepting a tree from him without proper documentation, which he wants to charge me extra if I ask for individual documents. This can get costly. His note is below:

I have a lot of documents related to your family. Approximately 40-50 documents. About births (Luser had at least 9 brothers and sisters), marriages, divorces and deaths.
Examples.
1. Record of the birth of Luser in 1878. Names of father, mother, both grandfathers.
2. Record of the marriage of Luser with Rukhlya Milman in 1904. Their age, confirmation of the names of the fathers.
3. A record of the birth of their daughter in 1905.
4. Birth records of almost all of Luser's siblings.
5. Luser's father was a retired soldier and appeared in Zhitomir in the late 1860s. Before that, he lived in a completely different city. According to the censuses of this city,

You can trace the history of the family until the 1770s. For each scan from the original document with translation I ask 25.
There is another option. For $ 220, for all the documents I have, I make a tree from the 1770s to 1900.
This is about 60-80 people. This includes 3 any scans with translation. Each additional scan for $ 20.

Has anyone else had experience with Boris Makalsky? What would you recommend that I do?

Rhonda Post
rhonda.post@...


Jewish Genealogy Society of Toronto. Exclusive free MyHeritage webinar on Thursday July 2 at 10 am EST #events #announcements

Jerry Scherer
 

Jewish Genealogy Society of Toronto. Exclusive free MyHeritage webinar on Thursday July 2 at 10 am EST. 

 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto is proud to present MyHeritage Genealogy Expert, Daniel Horowitz, in a series of exclusive free genealogical webinars on Thursdays @ 10 am EST.

 

Thu, July 2 @ 10 a.m. EST. MyHeritage's NEW Advanced Features and Technologies”  by Daniel Horowitz

An advance review of new features and technologies on MyHeritage, the online family history service. Take full advantage of MyHeritage's unmatched technologies to help you find long-lost relatives. The tree Consistency Checker, PedigreeMap, Theory of Family Relativity, Calendar and Events, Statistics, Pedigree Tree, Charts, Relationship Report, Surveys, and more.


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