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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
Angie Elfassi
Hi,
this subject is close to my heart!
A story I have told before and am happy to share again ....
My ggrandfather Mordechai KASSEMOFF was born in Rezekne in Latvia. On his papers that I had received from the Latvian archives, it said that his father was Moshe Hirsch. However, on his tombstone, in Leeds, it said his father was Zeev.
During my years of research I came across two family ancestors - GREENSTONE/GREENSPAN and MULVIDSON, and I couldnt understand how they were connected to the KASSEMOFFS. Eventually I was in contact with a descendant of one of the MULVIDSON family, who lives in Norway, and he sent me a copy of a photo taken in 1926. He told me that on the reverse side of the photo was written: my brother Mordechai and family in Leeds. Imagine my shock when I received the photo (attached). I had the identical photo in the cupboard of my ggrandfather and ggrandmother and their grown children (including my grandparents). He told me that the original family name was MULVIDSON. Ggrandfather Mordechai's birth father was Zeev. The clue of his birth father was on his tombstone ![]() I was told that they had been given different surnames almost at birth, to avoid conscription. The oldest son kept the family surname as he was exempt from army service.
Hope this has helped.
Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel
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Esther Goldberg
All telephone books are on the web
Esther
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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
I have the same for my grandfather in the Ukraine.
Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year
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Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com
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-- Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy
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"adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
Yes, I have an example of adoption to avoid the Tsar’s army, which I've told in a family story on the Byerazino/Pahost KehilaLink. The details are reported here:
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https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Byerazino/family-stories/rose-rabinowitz-family.pdf
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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
Judy Madnick
We were told that my husband's surname "Madnick" was not the original family name, that when the Russians recruited boys to their army by force, if you were an only son, you could avoid the military. We've been told that the original name was "Gegozinski," so a direct ancestor of my husband and his brothers (unknown to us) each chose a different family name. Ours chose Madnick." Now I'm wondering whether they were "adopted," as described above or whether the "only son" story is accurate.
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ViewMate translation request - Polish (may be Russian)
#translation
#poland
#russia
Alice Klein
I'd like to request a translation of the Polish/Russian text of a birth record from Warsaw in ~1913. It is on ViewMate at the following address http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82758 Please respond using the online ViewMate form. Thank you so much, Alice Klein
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Was a gradfather an acceptable witness for the birth of a grandson in Galitzia in 1875?
#austria-czech
Alberto Guido Chester
Dear Genners
I have found a close relative living in the same house, with the same surname who appears as witness in the birth act of a boy (by the way my grandfather)
I think he was his grandfather, however I cannot yet prove the relation.
Was such a close relative accepted by the Austrian authorities as a witness of the birth?
Or maybe this was not a limitation?
Thanks for your comments.
PS: If you consider your comments to be of relevance to me only, please email me but not the list.
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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"adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
Ettie Zilber
DOES THIS STORY SOUND FAMILIAR? a branch of my family had 5 sons around the mid-late 1800s. In order to avoid the military, 4 of the sons were "adopted" by families which had no sons. Thus, this branch had 5 different family names. They lived in Kalvarija and environs. Does anyone have information about this practice? How do the genealogy experts advise doing research for this brick wall?
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Robinn Magid appointed Assistant Director of JRI-Poland
#announcements
jeremy frankel
On behalf of the Board of the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society, I would like to heartily endorse the election of our long-time society member, Robinn Magid, to the position of Assistant Director of JRI-Poland as well a member of the JRI-Poland executive committee.
It has been my privilege and pleasure and that of the board to have known Robinn for many years, both professionally and personally. Her many years of experience and various skills will be put to good use with JRI-Poland’s board and executive committee. Congratulations! Jeremy Frankel President San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
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Launch of Online Resource of Jewish Cemeteries in Turkey With Over 61,000 Gravestones
#sephardic
#announcements
Jan Meisels Allen
A digitized database of Turkish cemeteries has been launched online and made available to the public by the Goldstein Goren Diaspora Research Center at Tel Aviv University. It is called A World Beyond: Jewish Cemeteries in Turkey 1583-1990. The database is the culmination of decades of research by Prof. Minna Rozen and comprises digital images and detailed textual content of more than 61,000 Jewish gravestones from a variety of communities in Turkey from 1583 until 1990. While the material was digitized I the 1990s now is the first time its publicly accessible.
The database provides access to detailed information on Jewish cemeteries in a score of towns and cities around Turkey, from big city cemeteries with thousands of graves, to out of the way graveyards with only a few dozen: (each is a hypertext link) Adana, Antakya, Bodrum, Bursa, Çanakkale, Çorlu, Edirne, Gaziantep, Gelibolu, İskenderun, Istanbul, Izmir, Kirklareli, Konya, Manisa, Mersin, Milas, Tekirdağ, Tire, Turgutlu
Using the complex search functions, you can seek out individual gravestones or search the cemeteries by a range of criteria, including date, type of tomb (e.g. slab, upright, coffin-like), name and/or sex of the deceased, type of ornamentation of the gravestone, and more.
Note: the database is considered a “beta” version and the project team recognizes that there are still some kinks to be worked out. They ask that users point out glitches and suggest improvements by contacting them at diaspora@...
To read more see: https://jewish-heritage-europe.eu/2020/06/30/turkey-major-resource/
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Smorgon vital records
#lithuania
My family, the Meirovitz/Meerovitz/Meirivitch family was from Smorgon, and I have records from Vilna and Kovno confirming the connection. However, I've contributed/joined the Oshmiany group and searched through all the records for Smorgon and nearby shtetl records to no avail.
I'm would guess that there are other Smorgon decendants here, are there records missing? For example, is there a later revision list? If so, is there another method of tracing family in the area? I believe my family relocated after the 1915 pogrom, some went east to Minsk, several went to Vilna, and a few to Kovno. However, it would seem that the family would be listed on the 1850 revision list, but unfortunately they are not.
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Institutionalized relative - death date and burial location
#general
Hi! I have a great aunt who was institutionalized by her family, I don't know the reason, but I do have reason to believe she died at Pilgrim State Hospital in New York. I've contacted Pilgrim, and although this woman has certainly been deceased for 50 years they will not release any information, including where residents were buried. I've also searched NY death certificates. I believe she passed in the 1960's.
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Request for SIG/RD/BOF/RG groups 2020 IAJGS Virtual Conference Participation
#announcements
#jgs-iajgs
Dear SIG, RD, BOF, RG leader, As you are probably aware by now, this year’s IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy will be a “Virtual Conference”. The good news is that the conference Chairs have worked out a mechanism for SIG/RD/BOF/RG groups to meet in virtual meeting rooms during the conference period. Many of you already submitted applications but some of you notified us that you could not hold a session because you would not be able to travel to San Diego. Since physical attendance is no longer an issue, we are doing a re-set and providing all groups the opportunity to apply for a meeting session. Please read the rest of this letter carefully and submit the accompanying application form by July 15th. The Virtual Conference will take place between Monday, August 10th and Thursday, August 13th between 10:00 AM and 7:30 PM, Eastern Daylight Time. In addition to SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, there will be live and pre-recorded sessions. Additional good news for your group is that we would like to offer the SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings at no charge to attendees, so you could invite existing members and potential members who may not be interested in attending the full conference, but would like to meet with your group. Attendees for any part of the conference, including the SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, must register for the conference. Registration for the full conference, which will include a variety of live and recorded sessions is $325. (By the way, the $250 early bird rate expires on Sunday, July 5th in case you have not registered and want to.) By submitting your new request, you are agreeing to the following conditions:
Applications MUST be returned by July 15th, 2020 at the to SIGandBOF@...g (Earlier replies are very much appreciated.) If we do not get a response by July 15th, your group will not be scheduled. Feel free to contact me at the same email address with any questions.
Nolan Altman
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Nicole Heymans
When searching for adoptees' potential biological relatives, DNAGedCom is an absolute must. https://www.dnagedcom.com/
Unlike GedMatch which requires downloading raw data by contributors, this site collects matches (rather than raw data) directly from FTDNA, 23andMe etc. and numbercrunches it. This means it includes data from samples from all those disappointed by their DNA findings, or deceased, who are unresponsive. Keep safe; Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium
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Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
I agree. There was a stigma associated with adoption. We’ve come a long way Thank G-d
-- Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY
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Eva Lawrence
Even much later, in the 1950s, there were families who were anxious not to tell an adopted child that it wasn't theirs. A newspaper announcement seems a bit extreme, but they may have wanted to make sure the neighbours didn't spoil the illusion. I've known families move because an adoption was locally known.
-- Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK.
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Re: Looking for any information on family name Zaubler/Zobler/Ziegler/Seidler moved to NY before WWII originally from Poland / Vienna
#galicia
#austria-czech
#poland
Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
It would be helpful if you gave us your G GM’s date of birth, your GM Anna’s DOB and told us who the father of Rosa and Lena were.
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Looking for any information on family name Zaubler/Zobler/Ziegler/Seidler moved to NY before WWII originally from Poland / Vienna
#galicia
#austria-czech
#poland
anngeva@...
My great grandmother, Clara (don't know her original husband's name but remarried someone named Seidler) moved with my grandmother, Anna Ziegler/Pimselstein (who perished in Auschwitz) from Pechenizhyn, Poland to Vienna sometime before 1922. In Vienna, Clara remarried to someone named Seidler and then moved to NY before the war. This is about all the information that I can find about this part of my family. I think Clara also had two other daughters, Rosa and Lena who were also living in NY. There were also two cousins of my mother named Leo Zobler and Leonard Spinner in New York whom were also connected somehow. I would greatly appreciate if any of these names "rings a bell" to hear anything more about this part of my family. Thanks!
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jbonline1111@...
I don't know how to search these records, but I can tell you that my grandfather and his family had passports when they traveled from the area in the late 1890s to the US.
-- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC
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