Re: IAJGS Conference Planning


I think the IAJGS 2020 team is doing a great job! Thank you for your hard work, persistence, and flexibility.

I am wondering about setting up small social sessions in an effort to create some of the serendipitous connections that happen at a conference.
I have some ideas, but would like to brainstorm them here to see what others think.

Just Brainstorming-
  • Local groups meeting outdoors at social distances and zooming in with other conference attendees.
  • A guided beginner's group using the beginner sessions in the Lecture Library, then meeting on Zoom to discuss the material in the lecture (could last for 60 days!)
  • A guided DNA group, also watching the lectures, then meeting to discuss the material.  As this is probably a big group of people, perhaps dividing into smaller discussion groups?
  • Some sort of bulletin board where attendees could make "coffee dates" to meet other attendees either by telephone or free zoom accounts

Would love to hear other's feedback!
Peggy Mosinger Freedman
JGS of Georgia

Re: "Osterbücher" in 1832 Hessen-Nassau #germany

Diane Jacobs

We probably read most of the same  books
As I remember reading all you mentioned except the Five Little Peppers.

Diane Jacobs

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From: Renee Steinig <genmaven@...>
Date: 7/1/20 7:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [] "Osterbücher" in 1832 Hessen-Nassau #germany

My experience was quite different. My parents, working class refugees
from Europe, outfitted my room with a bookcase, which first held slim
"Golden Books" -- e.g. "Poky Little Puppy." Later reading included a
number of children's books published in the 1800s: "Grimm's Fairy
Tales" (pub. 1812), "Little Women" (pub. 1868), "Black Beauty" (pub.
1877), "Heidi" (pub. 1881), and "The Five Little Peppers and How They
Grew" (pub. 1881). And then of course there was the Nancy Drew
detective series (inspiration for later genealogical sleuthing? :-)

Going beyond personal experiences, please note that the American
Antiquarian Society's Children's Literature collection
( includes over
26,000 volumes -- all published by 1900.


Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY

Elaine Kirsh <troyfamily@...> wrote:

<<I was born in 1944 in NJ to a family that valued education yet I had
few books. I understand that this was true for most people. I can’t
believe there were children’s books in the 1800’s!>>
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

ViewMate translation request – RUSSIAN #lithuania #translation


I've posted a portion of a note from 1902 in Russian (bottom portion) for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much!
Rachel Kessler Park

ViewMate translation request – YIDDISH #lithuania #translation


I've posted two pages from a note written in 1902 in YIDDISH for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much!
Rachel Kessler Park

Viewmate translation request - German (Kurrent?) #austria-czech #translation

Larry Freund

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
This is a birth record for Ignaz FREUND (Radice, Bohemia). I already know the basics (Birth date: May 1, 1847; Mother: Ana Freund, daughter of Elias Freund, familiant from Zebrakow; No father listed; Witness: Jakob Treulich). I'm hoping to discover if there's any other significant information in the balance of the document.
Fyi, Ignaz FREUND was my grandfather's brother (or maybe half brother). I have no idea if he immigrated to the U.S., remained in Bohemia/Czech Republic or possibly went elsewhere (if he's your ancestor, please advise 😉).
Thanks for your help!
Larry Freund.
New York, NY

Rabbi?/Mordechai ROSENBERG #rabbinic #usa

Karol Swanson

My G-GF Marcus (Mordechai) ROSENBERG, age 60,  appeared on the 1910 US Census in NYC as a rabbi (own account!).  His occupation on the 1915 New York State Census is teacher. I don't know any more about his background.  Is there any way I can find out more about his rabbinical activities?  Are there lists available? I believe he was from the Brody area.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Karol Schlosser

Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Hallie Metzger

To all: My maternal grandfather, born David Yalovsky, Yedvabne, Poland about 1883, documented six different surnames assigned to his own father's six brothers although the true family surname was Freedland (various spellings). My grandfather reclaimed the original family surame when he became a US citizen but this has made genealogical research a real headache. Does anyone know how the surnames were actually recorded by the Polish government?

Hannah Metzger, hallie.metzger@...

Need translation/interpretation for documents in Czech #subcarpathia #translation #austria-czech

Mike Kalt

I have a couple of documents from the town of Beregszasz in the 1921 Czech census that I need translated and interpreted.   They are at:

Explanations of the forms and what I am looking for are on the ViewMate pages.  Thanks in advance for your help!

Searching for 1960 Moscow burial records for Shimon David Shoikhet #general #russia

Todd Cohn

Thank you for any help/direction you can offer me in locating the burial location for Shimon David Shoikhet in Moscow, Russia.  
Shimon David Shoikhet (1882–1960) 
BIRTH 1882 • Grosulovo, Tiraspol district, Kherson province, Russian Empire 
DEATH 1960 • Shodnya, Moscow oblast, Russia
He had two wives.  The name of the first wife is unknown.  The second wife was:
Bertha Feldman (?–1973) 
BIRTH ? • Grusolovo 
DEATH 1973 • Vilnus, Lithuania
His parents were:
Yitzchak Avrom Shoikhet (1852-?)
DEATH Unknown
Chana Freda Balaban (1860–1942)
DEATH ABT 1942 • Grosulovo, Russia
Living descendants in VA and NY. 
-Todd Cohn

Surname JEWITZKAVATZ / JEWASSCHEWITZ #southafrica #names


I am searching for information on the surname Jewitzkavatz / Jewasschewitz.
This was the maiden name of my two times great-grandmother - Johanna Margarietha (born somewhere between 1838 and 1898) in what we think was South Africa. She married John James Anley who was born in England and died in Cape Town, South Africa. Together they had 5 children.

If anyone has information on Johanna Margarietha Jewitzkavatz, or information on the surname Jewitzkavatz / Jewasschewitz, I would be immensely grateful. We have hit a 'dead end' on this particular branch of the tree.

Many thanks,

Viewmate translation request - Polish #translation


I've posted 5 vital records in Polish for which I would like a translation.

They are on Viewmate at the following addresses:

I've detailed there which parts of the documents I'm interested in.
Please respond via the form provided on the Viewmate image page.

Many thanks!
Shoshanah Glickman
Gateshead, UK

Re: Florence MARMOR burial records of the New York Mokkom Sholom, Bayside and Acacia cemeteries #usa

David Lewin

Over the years there have been very many emails between Florence and myself.  I was the backup for records she wanted to know to exist on a computer other than her own, ailing on. That is the source of the spreadsheet which I have now assembled and made public as she had wanted. I know that Florence collected the death certificates which she ordered from the Department of Health.

Why there is sometimes a report of death and at others a report of burial,I do not know.   Florence was not alone in this,  She was merely the custodian. The Data was collected by Florence Marmor, David Gevertzman, David Priever and   Maurice Kessler plus other volunteers from gravestones, death certificates, information from family members, etc.   Copyright 1995 by Florence Marmor, David Gevertzman, David Priever, Maurice Kessler plus other volunteers,  from gravestones, death certificates, information from family members, etc.

I do not have any of the actual certificates.

The RED text should not be red any longer.  As I added data to the growing file, I coloured new material red so that it stood out and I could then eliminate any duplicated records.  Once duplicates had been deleted, all should have been turned black - and clearly I failed to do so on the version you have seen

Incidentally, I see that in addition to Pesach there is also a record for
NOVINSKY Fanny       67y    buried 07 August 1900


At 19:23 01/07/2020, Risa Heywood wrote:
Thank you for posting this! It seems to be a combination of cemetery info and death certificate info. A record for my 3x great-grandfather, Pesach Novinsky, is in the file with information from his death cert. but there is no burial information such as plot or association. My copy of his death certificate says that he was buried in Bayside. It would be helpful to understand how the file was created and what the sources were? Were the death certificates part of the cemetery records? Do you know what the red text in the file signifies? I understand that you may not have any additional information.
Risa Daitzman Heywood

Re: Florence MARMOR burial records of the New York Mokkom Sholom, Bayside and Acacia cemeteries #usa

David Lewin

I commiserate - mainly for being alone, but also on the tech-savvy part!   Thankfully I still have a wife. we married 56 years ago.  As for the "Tech Savvy" - that is subject to the other part of my commiseration.

I attach the file


At 19:28 01/07/2020, Barbara Mannlein wrote:

I am not tech savvy…¦. and now that I am alone there is no one to help me. 

This is the message I get when I tried to download the info via    torrent:

    "Safari can’t open the file “mokom-sholom-bayside-acacia-burials-florence-marmor-records_202007_archive.torrentâ€� because no available application can open it. "


On Jul 1, 2020, at 10:20 AM, David Lewin < david@...> wrote:

Several people have reported that they had failed to reach the
file. I have therefore again uploaded the 31,891 records of Florence
MARMOR's burial records of the New York Mokkom Sholom, Bayside and
Acacia cemeteries to

I hope it works this time

David Lewin


IGRA Zoom Sessions July 6 & 8 #announcements

Garri Regev

The IGRA Zoom session on July 6 (9 pm Israel, 2 pm EDT) features Daniel Horowitz explaining the new technologies developed by MyHeritage allowing you to take black & white photos and colorize them and enhance others. Join us for free. Registration is required:
The same program will be on July 8 in Hebrew (also 9 pm Israel, 2 pm EDT).
עם דניאל הורוויץ  MYHERITAGE-שפר את התמונות שלך ב
Garri Regev
President, IGRA

Ellis Island manifest questions - see scan #general #usa

Dahn Cukier

I have uploaded a page from 1920 Ellis Island as

There are 5 check marks (v) and one check/cross mark at the far left.
One check mark is made at "can read", one for "can write".
Leaving 3 more marks.

One name has been edited, the one that was printed as Mrs. I Brieff
was corrected/added by hand to show the name.

You can see that the marks to the right of the name are from
2 different people (pay attention to the size and color), were
people lined up according to the manifest page at EI?

Was the marks to the right of the name made before reaching EI
on the boat or point of embarkation?

The husband knew Yiddish, Romanian and probably some English, they
had lived in London and Isidore had been in the British Army (US volunteer
to battalion 39).

Are the marks different because they were sent back to the office/recorder
to get a name corrected?

The marks to the left of the name seem to be more controlled and
uniform. The last entry is not crossed, but stamped "deported".

One the next pages - not scanned - there are instructions about what the
agents at EI may change, the name is not one of these.

A comment about "his name was changed - many names may have been changed
if the person did not have original documents with English spelling. There are
names that are written differently if heard in English or Hebrew. The name
"Dan" in English is pronounced as D+ann, but the name is from the
Hebrew and is neither Dan or D+on. The German word/name Zucker is
not pronounced in English. In the end, if a Pole boards in Manchester,
the name may have been changed due to accents and knowledge of
the agents at embarkation.

Again. I am interested in the check marks.

TZUCKER, LIISBICKY, BRIF, SKLAWER - each with numerous "official" spellings.

When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

Re: Radom, Poland/Birth Records #general #poland

Daniella Alyagon

You need to understand that due to privacy laws records under 100 years old are classified and cannot be accessed.

If your mother was born in 1940, and I will assume the last entry in the record book was made in December 1940, the book will not be made available publicly before 2041.

You have the option of contacting the municipality as a direct descendent and requesting information, I am not sure of the exact procedure.

I would suggest searching for your grandparents as a starting point.

Daniella Alyagon

ViewMate translation request - Polish #translation

Robert Hanna

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Robert Hanna

Subj: ViewMate translation request - German #translation

Alberto Guido Chester

I would appreciate help in deciphering and translating AND HELP FINDING HINTS OF A RELIGIOUS PROFESSION.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.  
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Re: looking for family in Australia from Poland name Cohen/K #general #poland

Michael Wilson

The Ryerson Index to death notices and obituaries in Australian newspapers is a great resource at .  There are 41 entries for the surname ''Kohen''.  Unfortunately, without a first name for filtering, there are 2892 entries for ''Cohen''.  But this haystack is not too big to sift through!  MikeW

Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

loren r grossman

My paternal grandfather and his 4 brothers came over from Koydanovo Belarus around the turn of the century as SLUMIEL; my grandfather changed his name to GROSSMAN in court in his naturalization papers in NYC. Family lore was that the name SLUMIEL ("fool") came from death certificates purchased to avoid the Czar's conscription, and that AVEDON may have been a family name before that. I have found no such proof.

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