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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary

neilan1
 

I've seen Udel as a female name on two occasions.


Trying to identify village near Grodno #belarus

rharpaz@...
 

Hi, a letter from circa 1895 posts the following return address: Mr. Moses Ratman, Gubernia Grodno, settlement of Sanemonskom, Jagostow Street. I am unable to find Sanemonskom. Does anyone have any ideas about other designations for this village?

Thank you,
Rafael Harpaz

Researching:
Belarus: Grodno (Ratman/Rothman, Bendeson, Ciemnolis, Farbarovitch), Brisk (Tarman), Turov (Shifman)
Poland: Bialystok/Czyzewo (Dveiras, Goldberg)


Re: A question about age #general

Stephen Weinstein
 

It is possible for a 13 year old to have a baby, and then get married years later, whether to the father or to someone else.

However, I would start by checking the child's age on the grave and the census to try to figure out how old she was when they traveled a few months after marrying.

I like the idea of confusing 9 years with 9 months.  However, being 9 months old just a few months after the marriage would still mean her mother was pregnant before marriage, and gave birth before the marriage.  That's unusual, because if an unplanned pregnancy occurred and the parents decided to marry, they would try to do it as quickly as possible, and certainly before the birth.  Prior to the invention of early pregnancy tests, the typical time for someone to realize she was pregnant and arrange an urgent wedding was such that the baby was typically born 6 months later.  (A particularly famous example of a child born that amount of time after his parents married was President Obama.)  If you research the history of laws on what Shabbos violations where permissible because they could save the life of a baby and what wasn't allowed because it was pointless (the baby would die anyway) or unnecessary (the baby would live anyway), there's a fascinating error: At one point, it was erroneously thought that a baby born after 7 months of pregnancy had a better chance of survival than a baby born after 8 months of pregnancy.  This makes no sense medically, but was an easy mistake if most of the babies reported to have been born after 7 months of pregnancy were really born after 9 total months of pregnancy: 2 before marriage and 7 during.

Here's a simpler explanation: a badly formed 0 can look like a 9, so maybe the age was "0", not "9".


On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:05 PM, Ellen Gottfried wrote:
898. Her age was given as
22, his as 23. A few months later they traveled to New York with a 9
year old girl, Mollie, who was listed as their daughter. The 1900 US
census lists Mollie as their daughter. Her marriage record gives her
parents as Annie and Solomon. Her grave has Malka bat Solomon. How
can I reconcile this information?


Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Yes, Udel is a version of Adel.

Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director


Re: How to make sense of two death records that don't make sense to me #germany

Stephen Weinstein
 

She died, was reincarnated, and died again.  I'm kidding.  Seriously:

This may mean that her death was falsely reported when she was still alive (in 1890), perhaps either so her husband could marry someone else or so that her heirs could take her assets.  And then reported a second time when she really did die (in 1901).

Or that the first report (in 1890) is true and then one of her heirs falsely reported that she was a widow who died later (in 1901) so that they could "inherit" the property of the man reported to her husband.

Or there could be a legitimate explanation.


Re: parents as "cousins" on Ancestry.com #dna

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"I have a first cousin, Arlene,  who married our mutual first cousin. Her parents, Bernard and Esther, were also first cousins. Bernard's parents were also first cousins. And I suspect that one of his parents was also the result of a cousin marriage."

Arlene is the explanation of endogamy, for anybody who needs one.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Which website has records of money transfer requests from Russian/Ukranian jews to American relatives? #poland #general #russia

Linda Cantor
 



Look at https://archives.jdc.org/ and scroll down to Names Index and do a search on your names. 
 
Look at https://archives.jdc.org/our-collections/names-index/lists-in-the-names-index/ for a list of remittance lists.  But you search via the Names Index.
 
Linda


Re: Baby birth/death records from 1910’s and 20’s New York — Doctor scandal — #general

fkolbrener@...
 

There is something you can try using familysearch.org.  If not a member, join, it's free.

Do a new search, enter the last name in the surname field, and ONLY the FIRST Names of both parents in the mother and father field (you can try one parent name also, but the list will be longer).  Under TYPE, check off BIRTHS.  In the birth location field, fill in New York City or other part of NYC and do a search.  Change location and keep trying - there are never guarantees.

You'll get a list of all the birth records that got indexed for the surname and the first names of the parents  unless the name was butchered badly on the records.  Try variations

If you are lucky, you'll find a couple of promising leads.  Some of the data on the BC's are extracted.  With the film number and certificate number, you can go to the Family  History Center when they reopen and find the images on line.  I have found several children that were unknown in our family in this manner and had died at birth or even within four or five years later.   
Fred Kolbrener


Looking for family of Julius JACOB who emigrated to Australia in 1939 from Willmars, Germany #general #germany

dmjacobs@...
 

I'm on the trail of a 1st cousing once removed, born in Willmars, Germany (1876), who emigrated to Australia in 1939. I have just ordered documents from the Australian National Archives (thanks to a suggestion in another post), but he is not on any passenger list there.  A record in the Australia Index of Burials says he died in on July 14,1957 ,and is buried in the Rookwood Cemetery  NSW.  Any suggestions on how to find information on his family etc during his life in Australia would be appreciated.


Daniel Levy out west #usa

Carol Freeman
 

Looking for descendants of Daniel Levy, born around 1862 in New York City to parents Ernest and Isabella Levy recently arrived from England. Daniel went “out west” probably 1880 or so, and was not heard from again.

Carol Freeman


Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

While researching names related to an uncle of my late mother I bumped twice  in Familysearch.org into Udel BLASZ from Bardejov,Slovakia. Once it was identified as a male born in 1874 and next "he"

married in 1894 with Salomon FINGERHUT from Wisnicza (Nowy Wisnicz) whom I clearly located on JRI-PL. I know that Udel is a nickname of Yehuda. Any  ideaS?

Thanks

Jacob Rosen

Jerusalem 


Re: Does anyone know any survivors from Krinki/krinik #poland

Bob Silverstein
 

I would be interested in a Krinki group.  If anyone is likewise interested, contact me.

bobsilverstein@...


Re: How to make sense of two death records that don't make sense to me #germany

Bob Silverstein
 

Hi Barbara,

Here is a variation on that them.  I had two great-uncles, Meloch and Manya Tzipershteyn.  Their two sisters and brother became Silverstein here.  However, Meloch and Manya became Max Selverston and Max Selverston.  And, not to confuse, matters, each married a Sarah.  Help me with that one!


Re: Chicago repeat marriage in mid 20th C. #general #usa

Bob Silverstein
 

Hi Hanna,

I do not know how much of the information in the various naturalization forms were either confirmed by the naturalizing agencies or required the applicants to show proof.  Max could have claimed and sworn to the marriage without needing to prove it.  We know the censuses are self-reporting and unverified so the 1940 does not prove anything.  Something may have come up that prompted them to make it official in 1950.  


Re: Research individuals in France #france

Marilyn Feingold
 

Art, can you see if there is a David Hascal Schliffer  or David Schliffer  or David Hascal listed in Paris. He joined the French Foreign Legion after escaping the Nazi's and had an aunt Bessie who lived outside of Paris who took him in when he arrived in France. When he went to France he changed his name from David Schliffer to David Hascal (Haskell? not sure of the spelling. Thanks so much or your kind offer. Best wishes. Marilyn Feingold


Re: Which website has records of money transfer requests from Russian/Ukranian jews to American relatives? #poland #general #russia

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

In addition to the bank records in Philadelphia which you can search at the Temple University Library -  Jewish Archives,  you should also check

the Archives of the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee at:

https://names.jdc.org
     or    
https://archives.jdc.org/ 

The JDC has a data base of over 500,000 names which includes lists of individuals who are requesting aid.   You can just put in a name and it will search the full data base.
The lists for people requesting aid contain names and addresses, etc. so this web site can be a terrific source if you locate someone.

The JDC database is probably not used as much as it should be.  There are also archives of photographs and other information.

Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia



  Re: Which website has records of money transfer requests from Russian/Ukranian jews to American relatives? #poland #general #russia
From: Alicia Weiss
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 11:43:08 EDT

Linda, 
Can you please provide a search strategy for accessing these Remittance Lists online?  Are they found in any particular collection?
Many thanks,

Alicia Weiss

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Information about Suri Milgrom #ukraine

Marilyn Feingold
 

I am looking for a distant relative, Suri Milgrom. She was born about 1838 and had a tobacco shop. I have found two of her children, Heike (Ida) and Joseph. However she had two more daughters, Fride and Frimi. One became an attorney and one married a Steinberg. I believe Suri was born in Kishinev. Her husband's name was Sam Elkas.  They divorced and Suri and her children kept her maiden name, Milgrom.  Her ex-husband married again and moved to Odessa. I would like to find her  Fride and Frimi's descendents if possible. I would also love to know who Suri's parents and grandparents and siblings were.  Any suggestions or information will be greatly appreciated.
Marilyn Feingold


Re: Female Maiden Name on Headstone #belarus #general #russia #names #translation

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

I found a family stone in Ukraine from 1911 that is on the website of this organization:  Chesed Shel Emet. 
Mitzmatemet.org.  

I can only translate part of the stone at this point, so I wasn't sure what to do.

Does anyone know anything about this organization?
Has anyone had any dealings with this organization?  They offer to clean the stone, paint the fence, etc  for a charge. 

Thank you,
Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia


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Re: Chicago repeat marriage in mid 20th C. #general #usa

Lin Mor
 

Hi Hannah, I am sure that no two or more, situations are the same, but sometimes a misunderstanding happens. My maternal grandparents are on record to have received a marriage license in Erie PA in April, 1908. I am quite sure that they had a religious ceremony, possibly a few months before, because Grandma was about 3 months pregnant in April.  Perhaps they though it wise to also have a civil marriage record, but the signed civil/legal paperwork was never returned to City Hall. According to civil law, then, the marriage did not take place.  I attribute it to ignorance as well as perhaps a language barrier as to how it all needed to be done. My suggestion is that you can check to see if a marriage license was issued in 1938, the people in Erie PA found the license issuance easy to find in their records.


Re: Florence MARMOR burial records of the New York Mokkom Sholom, Bayside and Acacia cemeteries #usa

Steve Pickoltz
 

I too have a relative buried at Bayside, but he is not listed in your list.  His death cert number is #20801 with a death date of June 4, 1893. The name is Israel Pikholz, and he was 14 days old. 

 

Any additional info on him or his family would be greatly appreciated.  His death cert is very hard to read.

 

Steve Pickholtz

nj55turtle@...

 

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