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Photo identifications
#photographs
mwbulach@...
Dear All
I re-posted some photos at Viewmate numbers: 239, 240, 241, 243, 244, 252, 253, 254, 255 and 256. I know some are of my family in Khotyn or Lipcon (Ukraine), some are from Brzezin (Poland), 4 boys from Canada I would appreciate if someone could help me to identify who they are. Thank you Marcia Woolf Bulach
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Translations request
#germany
#translation
#poland
elani.joseph@...
Hi genners,
I have posted German and Polish vital and census records which need translations You can find them at the following links. https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/memberadmin/responselist.asp?showmaster=1&viewmateid=82903 https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/memberadmin/responselist.asp?showmaster=1&viewmateid=82902 https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/memberadmin/responselist.asp?showmaster=1&viewmateid=82901
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ViewMate translation request - German
#translation
Bess Taylor
Hello,
I've posted several vital records in German for which I need translations. They’re on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82879 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82886 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82887 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82888 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82889 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much, Bess Taylor
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Jewish cemeteries in Turkey digitized
#announcements
#sephardic
Jeff at SG
Data from over 61,000 tombstones in Jewish cemeteries in Turkey is now available in great detail at a new website
https://jewishturkstones.tau.ac.il/ It is a project of Tel Aviv University in memory of the late historian Bernard Lewis. Jeff Malka https://www.SephardicGen.com
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Shlomo Gurevich
Articles from Jewish newspapers in Hebrew, Russian, English and Yiddish in relation to Jewish Chislavichi an Monastyrshchina of Mogilev gubernia were added to their websites and can be found at http://shl2gur.tripod.com/Chislavichi/Chislavichi_Bibliography.htm
and http://shl2gur.tripod.com/Monastyrshchina/Library-Monastyrshchina.htm
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Question on DNA and Cohenim
#dna
lenk@...
Although my name is Kaplan, I was told by my older brother that we are not Cohenim. My Y-chromosome dna testing showed that I belong to Haplogroup G (M201). How can I find out which group I belong to?
Leonard Kaplan
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Re: Viewmate Translation Request - Russian
#russia
#translation
#poland
ryabinkym@...
VM82913
In Russian:
Состоялось в городе Лублин 10-го (22-го) мая 1871 года в час по полудни явились евреи Тобеяш (возможно) Либерман, (не ясно) 39-и лет и Яков Дизекман, работник 51-го года, оба жители города Люблин и объявили, йто вчера, в 6 часов вечера в городе Люблин, в доме под номером 638, родилось первое дитя мужского пола от родителей Гирши Вайсблеха ( не ясно) и Витли супругов Вайсблех, жителей города Люблин. По настоящему удостоверяю о рождении ребенка. Акт сей присутствующим прочитан и ими подписан. Подпись Подпись Подпись Подпись
Translated into English:
Held in the city of Dublin on the 10th (22nd) May 1871, at one o'clock in the afternoon, the Jews Tobeiash (possibly) Lieberman, (not clear) 39 years old and Jacob Dizekman, a 51-year-old worker, both residents of Lublin and announced that yesterday at 6 o’clock in the evening in the city of Lublin, in house number 638, the first male child was born from the parents of Hirsch Weisblech (not clear) and Witley spouses Weisblech, residents of the city of Lublin. I hereby certify the birth of the child. This act has been read and signed by those present. Signature Signature Signature Signature
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Hallie Metzger
This is amazing. I found a family transfer on my very first try!! Thanks so much for this information as it gave me the name of the town where my grandfather grew up and also, for future research, a possible spelling of the family's last name.
Hallie Metzger, hallie.metzger@...
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Re: Viewmate tombstone photo
#photographs
#belarus
#translation
David Barrett
I think I can be of asssitance here.
Her soul left purified [ on the date] >
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
Avrohom Krauss
Jacob Rosen wrote: "...I know that Udel is a nickname of
Yehuda”. >The name “Udel” (pronounced like OOdel)is a Yiddish female name. The nickname: “Yudel” (with a proper ‘yud’ sound at the beginning) Is for the male Hebrew name- Yehuda. Udel and Yudel may sound the same to those who drop the “Y” sound at the beginning of words. Such is the case for those who hail from certain areas of Lita/Poland and is true for some Israelis today.> Avrohom Krauss Telz-Stone Israel
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Re: Female Maiden Name on Headstone
#belarus
#general
#russia
#names
#translation
Irina,
Thank you that is very helpful and not easily searchable information, so I appreciate the expertise. One final question. This particular headstone says "Esther Elyevna" which I have learned is the female patrynomic for Esther daughter of Eli? Or is this possibly understood as Esther the Levite or Esther the Levi? I am not sure how Russian headstones addressed this common Hebrew custom of calling out the "tribe" on the headstone. Best regards, Steve
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Re: parents as "cousins" on Ancestry.com
#dna
sbloom@...
I think we have to be careful comparing results of testing companies. Unless you test most of your cousins with all the companies, there's no way of knowing which is better. You certainly can not just go by which turns up more documentable cousins. There are all sorts of reasons why someone might turn up as a cousin without you really having a clue as to how they relate. Endogamy is one, but just the fact that surnames churn over frequently, especially with women upon marriage makes it hard to even identify someone with a branch you already know of. Also, adoptions, informal and formal. I'm also discovering that a significant number of men on my tree (several percent) especially those who were about 30 in the 1950's or early 1960's, had children out of marriage. Also, at least in one case, relatives back in Poland converted to Catholicism in the 1900's (making them unrecognizable as relatives just by given names and surnames...except that their names now were very Polish looking, so that clued me in....).
Just as anecdote, I did discover that a 4th cousin of my father was a known client of his! They had a laugh over that. But that's the only case in my tree. Though I do see some endogamy among relatives, I haven't see any with my direct ancestors. And though one test long ago before some chip changes and algorithm changes, my parents showed as cousins, I don't think they do any longer. Considering my genealogical details, it seems very unlikely that they are closer than 6th cousins, but I'd guess 7-10 is more likely to be correct for them and most Ashkenazim. For the few with documentable distant rabbinic lines, I can see that a few 15th cousins married, but they may very well have cousinhoods that are closer than the ones I can document. Steve Bloom Central Virginia
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Re: Baby birth/death records from 1910’s and 20’s New York — Doctor scandal —
#general
Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
Re Doctor Leff This was Doctor Leff’s Central Maternity Hospital located on the Grand Concourse in the Bronx Deanna Mandel Levinsky Long Island New York -- Deanna Mandel Levinsky
-- Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
dm11204@...
The Baal Shem Tov's only daughters name was Udel.
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
Trudy Greener
My mother (born in Ukraine around 1907) said her Hebrew name was Rivka Udel. She was one of 4 Rivka's of about the same age named after an ancestor, whom we know about, but I don't know where the Udel came from and unfortunately never asked.... Her official papers in the US used her new American name of Reva, no middle name.
Trudy Greener, Jerusalem
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Re: Research individuals in France
#france
Helen Gardner
Art. thanks for offering to look things up. I don't know what information is available, but I'd appreciate it if you could try and find when Rubin FELD (my uncle) entered Paris from Warsaw. His sibs all left but he stayed behind until his mother (my grandmother Henia FELD) passed away, and it would help me with the timeline of when she died. It would probably be in the 1930s though it could conceivably be late 1920s.
TIA. -- Helen Gardner ancestral names, all from Poland, mostly Warsaw AJGENGOLD/EIGENGOLD, BERCHOJER, BLANK, BIALOGORA, BLUMBERG, CHMIELNICKI, FELD, FERNEBOK/FERNSBUN, EDELMAN, FRYDMAN, GELDTRUNK, GURIN, ISSAKOWICH, LAKS, LERMAN, MALIS, MENDER/MONDER, MLYNARZ/MILLER, PODGORER/PODGORSKI, POPOWER, RAUTARBER/ROTGERBERG, RASTENBERG, POSSIBLY PRESSEIZEN
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Re: Records? Ancestor moved from Boston to Tel Aviv in 1920s.
#israel
The Israel State Archives (https://www.archives.gov.il/en) has arrival records of the Immigration Department of the Palestine Zionist Executive. These are in Hebrew and arranged by month and year but aren't searchable by name. For example, the 1923 records for ships arriving at Jaffa and Haifa are at
https://www.archives.gov.il/en/archives/#/Archive/0b071706800386c1/File/0b071706809d4c5b -- Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
Helen Gardner
My grandmother was Udele AJGENGOLD.
-- Helen Gardner ancestral names, all from Poland, mostly Warsaw AJGENGOLD/EIGENGOLD, BERCHOJER, BLANK, BIALOGORA, BLUMBERG, CHMIELNICKI, FELD, FERNEBOK/FERNSBUN, EDELMAN, FRYDMAN, GELDTRUNK, GURIN, ISSAKOWICH, LAKS, LERMAN, MALIS, MENDER/MONDER, MLYNARZ/MILLER, PODGORER/PODGORSKI, POPOWER, RAUTARBER/ROTGERBERG, RASTENBERG, POSSIBLY PRESSEIZEN
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Re: Travel from Buchach to USA transmigrating via United Kingdom
#unitedkingdom
Your relatives may have left from Libau, now Liepaja, Latvia, a port near Riga. The Wilson Line carried passengers from Libau to Hull as well as from Scandinavia. Libau was a Baltic port that played a major role in emigration from the Russian Empire and during the early years after the Russian Revolution.
-- Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA
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Re: Records? Ancestor moved from Boston to Tel Aviv in 1920s.
#israel
Elise Cundiff
Search for his obituary in the Jewish newspaper for the town in the USA where he lived - I found one for a relative who also had emigrated to Israel.
I also found him in 'US Passport Applications', and "Reports of Deaths of US Citizens Abroad' -- both of those collections on Ancestry, but ? might also be available via familysearch.
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