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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
Avrohom Krauss
Jacob Rosen wrote: "...I know that Udel is a nickname of
Yehuda”. >The name “Udel” (pronounced like OOdel)is a Yiddish female name. The nickname: “Yudel” (with a proper ‘yud’ sound at the beginning) Is for the male Hebrew name- Yehuda. Udel and Yudel may sound the same to those who drop the “Y” sound at the beginning of words. Such is the case for those who hail from certain areas of Lita/Poland and is true for some Israelis today.> Avrohom Krauss Telz-Stone Israel
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Re: Female Maiden Name on Headstone
#belarus
#general
#russia
#names
#translation
Irina,
Thank you that is very helpful and not easily searchable information, so I appreciate the expertise. One final question. This particular headstone says "Esther Elyevna" which I have learned is the female patrynomic for Esther daughter of Eli? Or is this possibly understood as Esther the Levite or Esther the Levi? I am not sure how Russian headstones addressed this common Hebrew custom of calling out the "tribe" on the headstone. Best regards, Steve
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Re: parents as "cousins" on Ancestry.com
#dna
sbloom@...
I think we have to be careful comparing results of testing companies. Unless you test most of your cousins with all the companies, there's no way of knowing which is better. You certainly can not just go by which turns up more documentable cousins. There are all sorts of reasons why someone might turn up as a cousin without you really having a clue as to how they relate. Endogamy is one, but just the fact that surnames churn over frequently, especially with women upon marriage makes it hard to even identify someone with a branch you already know of. Also, adoptions, informal and formal. I'm also discovering that a significant number of men on my tree (several percent) especially those who were about 30 in the 1950's or early 1960's, had children out of marriage. Also, at least in one case, relatives back in Poland converted to Catholicism in the 1900's (making them unrecognizable as relatives just by given names and surnames...except that their names now were very Polish looking, so that clued me in....).
Just as anecdote, I did discover that a 4th cousin of my father was a known client of his! They had a laugh over that. But that's the only case in my tree. Though I do see some endogamy among relatives, I haven't see any with my direct ancestors. And though one test long ago before some chip changes and algorithm changes, my parents showed as cousins, I don't think they do any longer. Considering my genealogical details, it seems very unlikely that they are closer than 6th cousins, but I'd guess 7-10 is more likely to be correct for them and most Ashkenazim. For the few with documentable distant rabbinic lines, I can see that a few 15th cousins married, but they may very well have cousinhoods that are closer than the ones I can document. Steve Bloom Central Virginia
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Re: Baby birth/death records from 1910’s and 20’s New York — Doctor scandal —
#general
Deanna Levinsky
Re Doctor Leff This was Doctor Leff’s Central Maternity Hospital located on the Grand Concourse in the Bronx Deanna Mandel Levinsky Long Island New York -- Deanna Mandel Levinsky
-- Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
dm11204@...
The Baal Shem Tov's only daughters name was Udel.
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
Trudy Greener
My mother (born in Ukraine around 1907) said her Hebrew name was Rivka Udel. She was one of 4 Rivka's of about the same age named after an ancestor, whom we know about, but I don't know where the Udel came from and unfortunately never asked.... Her official papers in the US used her new American name of Reva, no middle name.
Trudy Greener, Jerusalem
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Re: Research individuals in France
#france
Helen Gardner
Art. thanks for offering to look things up. I don't know what information is available, but I'd appreciate it if you could try and find when Rubin FELD (my uncle) entered Paris from Warsaw. His sibs all left but he stayed behind until his mother (my grandmother Henia FELD) passed away, and it would help me with the timeline of when she died. It would probably be in the 1930s though it could conceivably be late 1920s.
TIA. -- Helen Gardner ancestral names, all from Poland, mostly Warsaw AJGENGOLD/EIGENGOLD, BERCHOJER, BLANK, BIALOGORA, BLUMBERG, CHMIELNICKI, FELD, FERNEBOK/FERNSBUN, EDELMAN, FRYDMAN, GELDTRUNK, GURIN, ISSAKOWICH, LAKS, LERMAN, MALIS, MENDER/MONDER, MLYNARZ/MILLER, PODGORER/PODGORSKI, POPOWER, RAUTARBER/ROTGERBERG, RASTENBERG, POSSIBLY PRESSEIZEN
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Re: Records? Ancestor moved from Boston to Tel Aviv in 1920s.
#israel
Alan Shuchat
The Israel State Archives (https://www.archives.gov.il/en) has arrival records of the Immigration Department of the Palestine Zionist Executive. These are in Hebrew and arranged by month and year but aren't searchable by name. For example, the 1923 records for ships arriving at Jaffa and Haifa are at
https://www.archives.gov.il/en/archives/#/Archive/0b071706800386c1/File/0b071706809d4c5b -- Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
Helen Gardner
My grandmother was Udele AJGENGOLD.
-- Helen Gardner ancestral names, all from Poland, mostly Warsaw AJGENGOLD/EIGENGOLD, BERCHOJER, BLANK, BIALOGORA, BLUMBERG, CHMIELNICKI, FELD, FERNEBOK/FERNSBUN, EDELMAN, FRYDMAN, GELDTRUNK, GURIN, ISSAKOWICH, LAKS, LERMAN, MALIS, MENDER/MONDER, MLYNARZ/MILLER, PODGORER/PODGORSKI, POPOWER, RAUTARBER/ROTGERBERG, RASTENBERG, POSSIBLY PRESSEIZEN
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Re: Travel from Buchach to USA transmigrating via United Kingdom
#unitedkingdom
Alan Shuchat
Your relatives may have left from Libau, now Liepaja, Latvia, a port near Riga. The Wilson Line carried passengers from Libau to Hull as well as from Scandinavia. Libau was a Baltic port that played a major role in emigration from the Russian Empire and during the early years after the Russian Revolution.
-- Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA
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Re: Records? Ancestor moved from Boston to Tel Aviv in 1920s.
#israel
Elise Cundiff
Search for his obituary in the Jewish newspaper for the town in the USA where he lived - I found one for a relative who also had emigrated to Israel.
I also found him in 'US Passport Applications', and "Reports of Deaths of US Citizens Abroad' -- both of those collections on Ancestry, but ? might also be available via familysearch.
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Re: Lincoln Brigade and Spanish Civil War
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rroth@...
I don't think there is any specifically genealogical organization analogous to the Daughters of the American Revolution, but maybe now is the time to start one in memory of these brave souls. Meanwhile you could check with the Abraham Lincoln Brigage Archives https://alba-valb.org/ re this specific person. Otherwise it is an exercise in US Jewish genealogy.
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
Reuven Mohr
since Udi appears as a kinui for Yehuda, I could understand Udel also as a kinui for Yehuda > Yudel > Udel;
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Re: viewmate picture identification - probably Libya or Egypt
#translation
Yael & Barry
DIVISIONAL CAVALRYCHAPTER 9 — THE CAPTURE OF BARDIAPAGE 149
Nurit - read about the capture of Bardia. Google the book and find chapter 9. Best of luck. Yael
The New Zealanders' thrust, which cut off Bardia from the west, implanted between Bardia and Sollum a firm wedge into the enemy's fortress line on the frontier; so, when the greater part of the Division made off towards Sidi Rezegh on 23 November, 5 Brigade Group was left under command of 4 Indian Division, and later of 1
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Re: Can Udel be a Female Given Name?# names # hungary
paveanyu@...
Hi Mr. Rosen 6th July 2020
I wonder, are you researching the Fingerhut family? My Aunt--Edith Kohn --Chaya Adel/Chaya Eidel Kohn's son married Fingerhut Edith--from Tarcal Hungary--Edith Fingerhut--Mrs Laci, Kohn --B.Hashem lives in Israel. Good luck in your research Kul Tov Veronika Pachtinger
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Carol Lieberman
Strange. My uncle Julius Jacobs known here as Jay lived in Corsicana Texas and passed in 1970s or 80s. If that holds any interest let me know and zI will try and see if dates and connections are possible.
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Re: Viewmate tombstone photo
#photographs
#belarus
#translation
chaimtr@...
She gave charity and grace, she holds out her hand to the poor, our modest (humble) mother, Chaya daughter of Chaim, the wife of Baruch son of Israel Berger, Passed away* 21 of Tevet 5'674, R, I, P, (literally: may her soul be bound up in the bond of everlasting life)
* Before the date there are 3 letters ינב which I don't know their meaning in this context (I looked up and did not find any relevant Hebrew abbreviations except יגן עלינו- will protect us) so I assumed it referred to the death date. 21 of Tevet 5'674 is 19th of January 1914 all the best Chaim
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looking for ancestors from Italy, possibly Spain or Portugal
#general
paulbeek_1956@...
Shalom dear Sirs,
Am looking for group where I can put in request for data on
ancestors coming from Italy,probably earlier from Spain or Portugal.
Please let me know where I can put this in and look for data,thanks
in advance,
with best regards
Paul Beek
the Hague
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Requesting translation on Viewmate
#yiddish
#lithuania
#translation
buffmufin
Hello! I have uploaded to Viewmate a scan of the back of a family photo taken in the late 1800s, likely in Lithuania. There is a lot of handwritten Yiddish, which I'm at a loss to translate. I hope someone can take a look at this and maybe decipher and translate the writing.
Link to the image on Viewmate is https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=6381 Thanks in advance! CAROL KUNKIS COHN Searching: KUNKIS and LEHMAN/LAYMON from Glubokoye, Disna District, Vilna Guberniya (Northern Belarus/Eastern Lithuania region) LEIBOWITZ from Kelme and surrounding area, Lithuania (changed to Levine in US) GRUSINSKY/GRUZINSKY/GRUSIN from Kelme, Siauliai, Kaunas and surrounding area, Lithuania; South Africa SCHRIER and PACHTER/PECHTER from Yarmolinits/Jarmolincy, Dunayevtsy, Kamenetz-Podolsk, Tarnoruda, Ukraine KOSSOI/KOSSOY from Vetka, Gomel, Chechersk, Belarus PEVTZOV and MARGOLIN from Vetka and Gomel area, Belarus
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Re: grandparents' names on Vienna birth certificates?
#general
#austria-czech
Peter Heilbrunn
Hi,
The records kept by the IKG show names of parents, midwife and person performing a circumcision but sadly no grandparents.
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