Re: Genealogical research in Argentina #latinamerica

Rolando Gail

I want to clarify at least one point of Mr. Chester letter. He stated that AGJA is not working anymore.
I think that this should be expressed otherway. I'm the last secretary of AGJA's board. All the mandates are overdue, and some of the members (including me, of course) decided to continue with AGJA's activities, researches and help. We discontinued the memberships, in order to avoid all the paperwork and complications. So, we refused to manage money. The immediate consequence was that some people preferred not to continue on these conditions, so, a few members are actually involved on supporting AGJA and our friends.
Under this limited way of doing things, we did the following: 
a) We signed a couple of agreements with the IWO foundation at Buenos Aires. They enabled a place for our meetings, and they keep safe our library, enabling public searches on it.
b) We preserved our web site, at although actually only a few people use it. Most preferred Facebook, so
c) We created a page at Facebook for AGJA. 
d) And we also created a Facebook group, in order to have better interaction with and between all friends.
e) We make a new e-mail address available for the requests from public from all around the world: consultas.agja@... 
f) during all these years, we continue with the agreement with Jewishgen project JOWBR, updating the databases of Argentine jewish cemeteries.
g) We began a new project: taking the matzevoth photos of our oldest cemeteries and adding it (and it's information) to the Jewishgen database. Till now, more than 4000 burials were incorporated to the gallery. It's a work in progress.
h) We began another project using Google Earth, a large map with the places of interest of our friends, like old cemeteries, old Colonies borders, historic train stations, etc. Also a work in progress.
i) And we helped, with our poor, only human resources to reunify dozens of families, our favorite activity.
If you still think that AGJA is no more active, just take a tour over all of these, and let Us talk about it
Warmes regards from Argentina
Rolando D. Gail

Re: How to make sense of two death records that don't make sense to me #germany

Andreas Schwab

The Israel was imposed in 1938, and always as a middle name. So the dancing-master Levi Lichtenstein and the dance-teacher Israel Levi Lichtenstein were most probably different people. 

Re: ViewMate translation request - Hebrew #translation



Hello Sharon,


Interesting document.


This is a conversion certificate

To be evidence in the hand of the man by the name of

Tony Allen Pacelli

From the city of Toledo, Ohio U.S. North America

That came to be protected under the wings of the G_d of Israel

That studied the laws that he has to keep and in front of us the signed below

Accepted the burden of ‘mitzvahs’ and we saw that the ‘mohel’

Let out fromhim blood of the ‘brit for the purpose of conversion and immersed

In a kosher ‘mikveg’ according to the law

Therefore he is, with G_d’s help, a righteous convert

And from this day on he is Israel and

His name in Israel :

David son of Avraham our father

And for evoidence/prof to the above we come to sign 11th day of Iyar in the year 5750

Here in the synagogue “Etz Haim” (Tree of Life)

In Toledo, Ohio U.S. north America


Rabbi Yehuda Zvi son of rabbi Itzhak Garchik

Cantor Yona Arieh son of Mordechai Katzir (Ksirer)

Ya’akov Itzhak son of David Ben-Zion


Shalom, Malka Chosnek

Re: Does anyone know any survivors from Krinki/krinik #poland


My family (Pruzanski) in particular my father Tewel, was a very close friend of Lola Resnick (Wolf). My parents visited her very often and she also made a trip to see our family in Australia in 1973. I have emailed some of the names in this group who provided their emails and would appreciate anyone making a group to discuss our Krynki ancestry. Those of our family who emigrated mainly to Australia in the late 1940's, had survived the Holocaust by having been deported to Siberia by the Russians who entered Krynki prior to the Nazis. Any of our family who were not deported, perished at the hands of the Nazis. Today we have many families descended from the 18 odd first cousins who survived, and in March, 2020 we had an incredible weekend reunion of all of those descendants. Love to hear from fellow Krinkers.

ViewMate translation request - Russian #belarus #yizkorbooks #translation

David Brostoff

I have posted a Russian travel document on ViewMate and would be very grateful for a translation of the Russian text and handwriting:

Please respond via ViewMate.

Thank you,


Re: Does anyone know any survivors from Krinki/krinik #poland


I will reply privately but I just wanted to say here how this could be a match as I have a Wolfwich from Krinky. Don't let emails like this pass you by!

Grodno and Sokolka: TIKOTZINSKI---> EPSTEIN
Minsk: SPUND

ViewMate translation request - Swedish #scandinavia #translation

David Brostoff

I have posted two different scans of a Swedish citizenship document on ViewMate and would be very grateful for a translation of the text:

Please respond via ViewMate.

Thank you,


Re: parents as "cousins" on #dna

Nicole Heymans

There are two issues in this thread: a) endogamy and b) DNA bias.
a) Endogamy is not peculiar to Ashkenazi Jews. In the past, most folks married within their own village, and marrying a cousin was not uncommon. In my mother's (Jewish) ancestry, one of her maternal aunts married a first cousin; and her father CL had a "double second cousin" CDL: their fathers were first cousins and their mothers also. And CDL had two daughters who married two brothers. One way of marrying "in the family" while avoiding inbreeding.
On my father's side (not Jewish) I also find a brother and a sister of Granny W marrying two McI siblings.
And I remember a friend who was working on a thesis about intermarriages in "local isolates" - I envisioned distant places far from civilisation, but he was working on communes of Brussels which were villages 5, 10, 15 km distant in the 19th century.
b) Bias. In the past there was an interesting helpfile on FTDNA explaining some essentials of statistics: what a cm means, how the amount of shared DNA decreases, the spread of this amount increases with distance to shared ancestor; and there was a table of likelihood of detection according to distance of relationship. From memory, 50 % for 4th cousins. Some will be detected as "5th-distant", some not at all, others as closer than reality. As the true relationship becomes more distant, likelihood of detection decreases, and only the leading end remains. A tiny percentage of an enormous pool, a vast majority of our matches.
If it's any consolation to patrons of this discussion group, the situation is no better on my non-Jewish side.

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium

Re: Looking for a descendant of Rabbi Binyomin Beinush Atlas initially from Lithuania #lithuania


My grandfather was Benjamin Benesch. His parents Israel and Jennie/Scheine Benesch immigrated to the US (Baltimore) from Lithuania around 1890. My Benesch great grand parents lived their lives out in Baltimore and my grandfather and his siblings grew up in Baltimore. I believe that there is a connection to a Kaplan family. Could this be part of the same family? I can give more details if it would be helpful. I've tried to get more information about my Grandfather Benjamin Benesch's family but it's been difficult. (the ship manifest on Jennie Benesch indicates she came from "Sidlowa" if that helps any. Thanks Allison Benesch

ViewMate translation request - Russian #belarus #yizkorbooks #translation

Steve Stein

I've posted a 4-sheet handwritten document in Russian, exceprted from the Yizkor Book from Nesvizh, Belarus, for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

It is a list of names of individuals.

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.
Steve Stein, Highland Park, NJ USA

Translations, Please: 2-page letter in Hungarian and 1 page in German #translation

Madeleine Isenberg

Hi All,

Once in a while I also need help.
I have posted 3 images on ViewMate.  Two are for the two pages of a letter my grandfather, Leopold GOLDSTEIN, who was later killed in the Holocaust, wrote in 1932 to his two brothers, Isidor and Geza, who had emigrated to New York.
This image is an old one from 1839, for people who seem to have had to pay certain taxes or fees, in Poland.  Several are my family names so I'd like to know the context and confirmation of the places they lived at.
Please respond via the ViewMate capability. 
Thanks in advance!

Madeleine Isenberg  Beverly Hills, CA

ViewMate translation request - Hebrew #translation

sharon yampell

I have just uploaded my best friend’s conversion document  and it can be found at


It is very curious that his is completely in Hebrew whereas his father’s, who also converted and  had gone through his conversion with the same Rabbi, has a document that is in both English and Hebrew.


Thank you for taking the time to translate for us!


Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, NJ USA



July 23: #germany #austria-czech Genealogy webinar from the Center for Jewish History #events #germany #austria-czech

Moriah Amit

Family History Today: Reading between the Lines in your Family’s Papers – Live on Zoom

Thursday, July 23, 6 PM

Family papers can tell us a lot about our family histories, but without proper historical context, much of what these documents might tell us is lost. In this presentation, Michael Simonson will provide crucial context to historical documents you might find in your own family history research, allowing you to understand your discoveries on a deeper level. While Mr. Simonson will focus on examples from German and Austrian family papers, his presentation’s themes will be applicable to genealogical researchers of all backgrounds.


About the Speaker: Michael Simonson comes to us with a knowledge of genealogical resources for German and Austrian Jewish families gained over 17 years as an Archivist at the Leo Baeck Institute.  In addition, Mr. Simonson now serves as the head of the Ira S. Lewy Reference Department and as the Director of Public Outreach for the Leo Baeck Institute.  


Ticket Info: Pay what you wish; register at or 800-838-3006 to receive a link to the Zoom program.


This program is sponsored by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute and the Leo Baeck Institute. It is supported, in part, by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs in partnership with the City Council.

Moriah Amit
Center for Jewish History
New York, NY

Re: Subj: ViewMate translation request - German #translation

Nicole Heymans

It's the death registration of Isaac SEELIG. I've responded on Viewmate.

Nicole Heymans

Le lun. 6 juil. 2020 à 23:55, Bess Taylor <writebesstaylor@...> a écrit :

Dear Fredel, 

Thank you for your response. The document (VM82889) has apparently been mislabeled by (I just compared the document described there as Ernestine’s death certificate to VM82889 to make sure it wasn’t I who did the mislabeling.) As far as I knew, Ernestine’s only husband was Isaac Seelig, my third great grandfather. Perhaps she had a second husband. Thank you for letting me know the image is mislabeled. I’ll change the information accompanying the image on ViewMate. 

Best wishes, 

Bess Taylor 
Saratoga Springs, NY 


Rony Golan


I am looking for the STRUMINGHER,  MENNINGHER & GOLDIMBERG families from Falticeni, Romania.

Bercu STRUMINGHER married Cipra (Zipora) MENNINGHER and they had a few children..

One of the sons was Shloim(e) STRUHMINGER and he married Pessa Hana GOLDIMBERG in 1892.

Another daughter married a MARCUS.

If you have any information on these families or link to them, I will be glad to hear from you.

Please reply privately.

Thank you,
Rony Golan
Ramat HaSharon, Israel

                        EISDORFER, Hungary
                        SLOMOVITS, Sighet, Romania

Re: Morris Chaikin Mogilev, Russia #belarus

Ilan Leibowitz

Perhaps Morris(My Great-Grandfather) had a sibling(Not that I know of) Could also be a connection to his father DOV

Re: Immigration to US of Avram/Abraham BERCOVICI/BERKOWITZ from #romania

Mike Grossman

Thanks to those who helped with this query, especially CR and BF. I really appreciate it. In Pepi BERKOWITZ's Declaration of Intention (sent to me by BF) it states that she entered NY under the name of Pepi GROSSMAN (no relation that I know of, yet.) on a specific ship on a specific date. Other information is correct: address, childrens' names and dates of birth, etc.  When I searched for the passenger list, I discovered that she was accompanied by her 1yo daughter, Paulina GROSSMAN, destined for Philadelphia. So there they are, Pepi and Pearl BERKOWITZ with other names.
My question is, under what circumstance would she be traveling with her daughter under a different name? Might Pepi and Pearl have bought the tickets from Pepi and Paulina, when they couldn't travel? Any suggestions?

Re: Genealogical research in Argentina #latinamerica


So helpful, Alberto!  Thanks!

Do you (or anyone else on the discussion list) happen also to have suggestions for searching for individuals who emigrated to Venezuala?  I have relatives from Hungary who settled there after 1956.
Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

Re: Lista ufficiale dei ospiti di Abbazia/Italy #general

David Lewin

At 13:32 08/07/2020, Israel Guttman wrote:
Subject: Re: [] Lista ufficiale dei ospiti di Abbazia/Italy #general
To: main@...
From: "Israel Guttman" <makava1@...>

I am looking to locate the "Lista ufficiale dei ospiti di Abbazia"  for the years 1920-1938, these are the official visitors list to Abbazia [Than Italy currently Opatija in Croatia].This was printed weekly or bi-weekly. If you know where I can see it I would appreciate your help.

Thank you

Try contacting the museum there

Re: Does anyone know any survivors from Krinki/krinik #poland


Hello, All!  My husband's father, Samuel Wolf z'l, and his entire family were from Krynki.  We have the 'Pinchas Krynki" yizkor book at home which has quite a few pictures in it.  Sam and his cousin, Lola, were the only two survivors in the family - except of course the ones who had already emigrated to New York.  Sam survived the war as a driver for the Russian army, due to his part of the family being in the Transportation business.  Lola survived the war by being hidden in the basement of a former employee of her father's.  My husband, Mark, would be interested in a Krynki group as well.

Hilary Wolf

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