Re: parents as "cousins" on #dna

I agree with Nicole Haymans and want to add my own experience.  My paternal grandfather married his half-niece, my paternal grandmother, in 1919 in Providence, Rhode Island.  My paternal grandfather's half-sister was my paternal grandmother's mother.  They married in Rhode Island because their marriage was legal there since it was allowed under Jewish law, but illegal in New York City where they resided.  Peculiarly, under Jewish law a man is allowed to marry his niece but is not allowed to marry his aunt.

Re: Brody, Ukraine - seeking a book about Brody #galicia


Hi, I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to find records from Brody for my maternal grandfather, Nathan Dalitz and my paternal grandfather, Israel (Julius) Sperling. Have you had success in your Brody research and, if so, would you give me some suggestions?
Thank you so much.
Jan Enns

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names


Interesting theory Yale. Do let us know when you have actual proof.

Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

Barbara Zimmer

When Hilda LINDO MADURO  (her married name)  travels in 1945, her documents say that she was born in Panama.   Several other  manifests show her as born in Panama or in "R. P"  which  means Republic of Panama.  


New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945

Hilda Lindo Maduro
Arrival Date
31 Mar 1945
Birth Date
Birth Place
Panama R.P

Barbara Zimmer 

Re: Translation please from Dutch #germany #translation

Reuven Stern

Dear Nick,
Thank you very much.
You are right, it is not what I wished to find about my ancestors, but I can not argue with facts.
I am amazed by your ability to find this document.

Best regards,

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 03:41 PM, <nick@...> wrote:
Hello Reuven and Ed
I found in the document the father of Rika OS, [who was born on 18 Nov 1827], as Levi Simon OS who was married to Rachel Luppeman. Rika was born in Wonsdorf [now Wunsdorf, Hanover region].
Levi Simon OS is recorded as a rogue or scoundrel from Winschoten, province of Groningen, Netherlands, in the Allgemeiner Polizei-Anzeiger, Vol 29, No 42, pages 221-2, [Coburg 24 Nov 1849] as case # 10445, with a very detailed description of his features, and his misdeeds. His wife Rachel Luppeman and a number of their children are mentioned in old German lettertype. He is described as being 50 years old, which fits in with the record of Juan Goudsmit, where Rachel Luppeman is shown as Rachel Lappeman.
The document lists  4 witnesses who confirm the birth date of Rika OS. The declaration was issued by the burgomaster of Winschoten on 3 Feb 1853.
I know this is not the desired translation, but it may help.
Regards, Nick Lambrechtsen
Wellington NZ

Reuven Stern, Kfar Vradim Israel

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names


The grounds for returning an immigrant to Europe were first specified in the Immigration Act of 1882, and then refined in subsequent legislation.  All of the grounds listed impose a cost of some sort on the existing population, particularly the voting public.  Being listed incorrectly imposes no cost on the pre-existing population, and thus never became one of the grounds for being sent back.  Between 1903 and 1917, stow-aways appeared before Special Boards of Inquiry, and if it was determined that they didn't fall into one of the excludable categories, could be admitted. Section 3 of the Immigration Act of 1917 includes procedures for admitting stow-aways, people who weren't on the manifest at all. 
After studying these issues, I concluded that some immigrants may have feared that what Mashiach wrote was true, that they would be sent back if they told the inspector that their name wasn't what appeared on the manifest.  That wasn't the case, but this fear accounts for perceiving that they had to use the name appearing in the manifest, and this is the basis for the name-change-at -Ellis-Island narratives.

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Sherri Bobish

I agree with Mashiach's post.  My ggf's surname was WALTZMAN.  When my ggm (who was illiterate) traveled to NY to join him in 1904, the surname was spelled WALDSMANN  on the manifest.

This was not because of any "name change" but due to the fact that the name was written the way it sounded to a clerk in Europe, and my ggm could not read the name herself, but relied on verbal communication.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)


Re: Looking for a descendant of Rabbi Binyomin Beinush Atlas initially from Lithuania #lithuania

rv Kaplan

Thanks for responding - - looking to find a present-day descendant who knows about their ancestor.

Harvey Kaplan

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 17:31, Yehuda Horovitz via <> wrote:
The son in law of Rabbi Binyomin Beinish Atlas of Glasgow
was Dayyan Yitzchak Golditch  of Manchester passed away 1986 age 80
he had 3 children of them was David who passed away in 2000


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Davida Handler

Isn't it time to debunk this myth?  There is no doubt that this be
never happened.  Search ANY internet site.  Time to move to other topics!  Davida Noyek Handler

Finding records for ANETTA GROSSMAN BRAVERMAN who returned to Old Country from U.S. #romania


GG-Grandmother Anetta Grossman, born approx 1862, married Samuel Braverman/Brawerman (he is from Tulcea) approx 1875 in Romania (most likely). Have not found birth or marriage records. She came to the U.S. twice (in 1901 and 1906). She came to Philadelphia and met with her son Wolf. Passenger records show her coming from Galatz/Galati. In 1913, she purchased passage back to Bremen. After that, I lose her trail. I have not found anything for her anywhere. Any ideas of where to look?

Re: Looking for a descendant of Rabbi Binyomin Beinush Atlas initially from Lithuania #lithuania

Yehuda Horovitz

The son in law of Rabbi Binyomin Beinish Atlas of Glasgow
was Dayyan Yitzchak Golditch  of Manchester passed away 1986 age 80
he had 3 children of them was David who passed away in 2000


Re: SELIG Brick Wall #general

Fred Half

Thanks to David Lewin for catching my fat fingering of Moyse’s birth year. It should be 1760 not 1860. 

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names


Mashiach: Is it possible for you to forward to us relevant references? I am not disputing your plausible statements, only seeking sources, especially about the use of postal directories in the steamship ticket offices overseas from the US. (Additionally, it would be helpful if you had information on how the manifest literally moved from shipping office to ship to arrival port, that is, in whose charge was the manifest on board the ship, etc.) As a general note, I find it useful and often crucial to be able to differentiate between statements about historical processes based on (i) verifiable published sources (e.g., scholarship) as opposed to (ii) family/personal anecdotes and (iii) individual impressions based on general familiarity.  Thank you.

Re: Immigration to US of Avram/Abraham BERCOVICI/BERKOWITZ from #romania

Barbara Zimmer

Correction :  Pepi and Paulina were the same two people as Pepi and Pearl. 

Re: Genealogical research in Argentina #latinamerica


Hola a todos,
Here is the website of The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP) in Jerusalem. Last month they reopened their doors and it is possible to do personal research there with some restriction because the Covid19. I recommend you to look in their online catalogue (Search Holdings) to learn about the kind of information from different countries that is possible to find there. Some of the archives are digitazed, but as I know there are not online.
May be one of the most interest files accesible online to Latin American researchers is the list of individual files from JCA colonists in Argentina. Pay attention that it is only a list of surnames by Colony, and may be some mispelling of them, but it is a good start point if you have not much information about your relatives. The list includes only those colonists that arrived to the Colonias and sign any kind of contract with the JCA. Those people that arrived to the Colonias (even with JCA help) but didn't had contracts are not registered in an orderly way, if any. The individual files are accesible only at the Archives in Jerusalem and include all the contract interaction along the years between each colonist and the JCA.
I have not any personal relationship with the archives. If you need more information you can contact me privately and I will try to answer according my experience.
Hope this is of help to you,
Cesar Yeudkin
YEUDKIN/YUDKIN, SCHEIMAN from Gomel area, Belarus



Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

John Anderson

I have come across an extended family, probably Sephardic, who came to the US (San Francisco) around 1882. One was the DEL VALLE family who probably came from Curaçao. One married into the CORTISSOZ family from St. Thomas. It is an interesting search, but I do have a problem with one location: in the 1900 Census of California (San Francisco), I find these people:

Rachell Delvalles

David Delvalles

Dan Delvalles

Joe Delvalles

Ray Delvalles

Ida Delvalles

Judith Delvalles

Delia Lindo

Otto Lindo

Hilda Lindo

Albert Lindo

Olga Lindo

All the DELVALLEs were born in the “West Indies” which I know to be St. Thomas, having migrated from Curaçao except the LINDO family.  Delia (DEL VALLE) LINDO was born in the West Indies, but she married someone named S.J. LINDO, and 2 of his children (lotto and Hilda, above) were born in “U.S. Columbia” according to the 1900 census. Where is that? Is it Colombia? Panama? Curaçao?  The others (Albert and Olga) were born in Germany. As I said, a very interesting family!


John Anderson, Orlando, Florida


MyHeritage Offers Free Access to One Billion Birth Records Through July 16 #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen


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Marcus Abrahams #unitedkingdom


My 3rd great grandfather was Samuel Abrahams born between 1800-1811.  He is found in the 1841 England Census with an age of 35 years of age.  He was baptized converting from Judaism to I think Church of England in 1844, listing his father as Marcus and mother as Maria.  He died in 1849, which lists his father's name as Marcus.  Samuel married a Christian in 1830, my 3rd great grandmother.  The story in the family is that he was banished from the family for not marrying a Jewish woman.  Due to that fact, we have nothing except those 2 mentions of who is parents were.  Or, if he had siblings. 

I am hoping someone has Marcus Abrahams who might have been in England during that time in their family tree and may be have a mention of Samuel in their tree as well.

Thank you for any time or help you might be able to provide to me.

Jennifer Braham Smith

Re: Immigration to US of Avram/Abraham BERCOVICI/BERKOWITZ from #romania

Barbara Zimmer

It was common for the man to arrive first, and then save the money to buy the tickets for his family to follow. 

Re: Immigration to US of Avram/Abraham BERCOVICI/BERKOWITZ from #romania

Barbara Zimmer

Pepi and Paulina were the same two people as Pepi and Paulina.   It was common for people to change their given names to something that (to them) sounded more Americanized.  

Barbara Zimmer


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